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Tautology warning: “The Dodgers are the Dodgers”

Feb 29, 2012, 1:31 PM EDT

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Don Mattingly was asked about the Angels and all of their high-profile signings. And how, in light of the Dodgers’ recent doldrums, the Angels may be the number one show on grass in Los Angels now.

In his response, Mattingly was either zen or tautologous, depending on your point of view:

“At the end of the day, the Dodgers are the Dodgers … The Yankees are the team, no matter what the Mets do. They’re going to have their years that they play well, but the Yankees are the team.”

Matt Kemp joined in on this too, saying “Definitely, there’s only one Los Angeles team and that’s the L.A. Dodgers.”  He’s right! On a technicality, anyway, as Anaheim is a different city.

I dunno.  I get what they’re saying.  But taking this a tad more seriously, it’s worth noting that people used to say things like “[proper noun] is the Cadillac of [category in which noun is a part of],” as if there was no question about what the gold standard is.  Time changes that kind of thing.

The Los Angeles Dodgers are the Los Angeles Dodgers because of a tradition of winning, a tradition of their large, loyal following and a tradition of standard-setting excellence in management, organization and perceived class.  All of those things are either gone or are at risk thanks to the McCourt era.  Inertia and history won’t keep them on top forever.

  1. Gamera the Brave - Feb 29, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    Luckily Gator already used “tautology” in a sentence last week, so I already looked that one up…

  2. Gamera the Brave - Feb 29, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    And that makes Craig the Tesla Roadster of bloggers, and I am pretty sure I am the Edsel of commenters…

    • Gamera the Brave - Feb 29, 2012 at 10:58 PM

      My favorite part of the above is, while I had looked up tautology last week, I totally failed to employ it in the second post. Straight Bs in English!
      (hangs head in shame)

  3. El Bravo - Feb 29, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    Ok, well in Chicago, this will never ever ever be a Sox town and will always always always be a Cubs town, no matter the product on the field or recent WS. So, let me ask the west coasters this question: are the Angels to the Dodgers as the Sox are to the Cubs or is there more wiggle room for the Angels to actually “take over” the town?? I assume that it is similar to Chicago in that it will always always always be a Dodgers town…

    • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Feb 29, 2012 at 2:29 PM

      I’ve never understood loving a tem in your city, and hating another team in your city. And I’m a devout Cub fan.

    • lanflfan - Feb 29, 2012 at 3:53 PM

      I really don’t see any wiggle room, since unlike the Cubs and White Sox, the Angels do not even play home game anywhere in LA County, let alone the city itself. Fair weather fans follow the wins, no matter what city you live in, but I don’t see hardcore fans of either franchise changing.

    • rforr3tard3d - Feb 29, 2012 at 4:51 PM

      as its been said, the Angels only connection to LA is them putting Los Angeles in their name to boost profit. Los Angeles belongs to the Dodgers.

      • shwanzy - Feb 29, 2012 at 5:31 PM

        Well, other than than the 50 odd years as the PCL Los Angeles Angels…playing in South Central while the other team dodged trolly cars in Brooklyn.

      • rforr3tard3d - Feb 29, 2012 at 7:41 PM

        And then they became the California Angels then the Anaheim Angels and now the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim while being located nowhere near LA itself…while the Dodgers have been the Brooklyn Dodgers and the Los Angeles Dodgers.

  4. heynerdlinger - Feb 29, 2012 at 1:58 PM

    Man say if you wanna shoot nails, this here the Cadillac, man. Meant Lexus but he ain’t know it.

  5. SmackSaw - Feb 29, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    “…the Angels may be the number one show on grass in Los Angels now.”

    Irony? I think not.

    • scatterbrian - Feb 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM

      Ozomatli is the number one show on grass in Los Angeles right now.

  6. lanflfan - Feb 29, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    LA is, and always will be, a Dodger town. The Angels, despite their asinine name, do not play in LA and have not played home games anywhere in LA (or LA county for that matter) since 1965.

    What happened when the Angels won their only Series title? Nothing, still millions of Dodger fans here, waiting for Frank McAsshat to get thrown out of town.

  7. cup0pizza - Feb 29, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Dodgers>Angels forever no matter what. Even the idiocy of News Corp, Bud Selig, McCourt & Colletti can’t change that.

  8. foreverchipper10 - Feb 29, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    So what Donny Baseball was really trying to say is his team is the Egg McMuffin of L.A.

  9. Ari Collins - Feb 29, 2012 at 5:45 PM

    Tautology Club:

  10. simon94022 - Feb 29, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    The Angels, White Sox and A’s will always be second class citizens in their markets. The A’s are probably more like third or fourth class citizens.

    The Dodger fanbase is subdued now, but it is a sleeping giant (pardon choice of words), and far, far larger than the Angels base.

  11. simon94022 - Feb 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    The White Sox won a World Series 6 years ago. The Cubs last won it 103 years ago. Even so, the Cubs are the team Chicago WANTS to see win.

    Before 2010 the A’s had 4 World Championships in the Bay Area (including a win over the Giants) and the Giants had none. Nobody cared. The Giants have always been Northern California’s team, and nothing that happens on the field is going to change that.

    The Angels and Mets are closer to equality within their markets than the White Sox or Athletics. But they are still a distant second. If the Angels win the World Series, it might seem for a while A’s if they were equal to the Dodgers. But if the Dodgers win the World Series, the Angels will practically be forgotten by Southern California.

    • gogigantos - Mar 3, 2012 at 9:24 AM

      Still, even after a run of lightening to a Championship, San Francisco is the Niners’ town. Will be even after moving to Santa Clara.
      Long have loved and appreciated having both Leagues in town, American and National, never understood not loving both the A’s and the Giants. The relationship with the Raiders is a whole ‘nother thing for sure, but glad they are there. I remember when thinking Lester Hayes and Steve DeBerg were both cool wouldn’t get you in a brawl,,,,,
      My heart bleeds orange and black and I grew up at the ‘Stick, McCovey is the gate keeper of my heaven, but, go Niners
      A form of hell for me might be an eternity in LA, but even then I would not ignore or fail to appreciate have the Angels and the AL close by. And the Gene Autry Angels always hosted a great spring training game, maybe the best.
      Love the game and can’t wait for April to roll around!

  12. slavetothetrafficlight - Feb 29, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    Ironic considering the Mets outdrew the Yankees in 9 of Mattingly’s 13 seasons.

  13. weaselpuppy - Feb 29, 2012 at 11:32 PM

    I’m pretty sure that the Indians are the “other” team in Cleveland….

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