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Tigers in the market for a starting pitcher?

Mar 3, 2012, 3:00 PM EDT

Interesting note from Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com earlier this afternoon:

No word on who the Tigers could be targeting, but they were rumored to be in talks with the Cubs for right-hander Matt Garza during the offseason.

Justin Verlander, Max Scherzer, Doug Fister and Rick Porcello already have rotation spots locked up, but the Tigers enter exhibition play with their fifth starter situation pretty unsettled. Jacob Turner, Andy Oliver, Drew Smyly, Duane Below, Adam Wilk and Casey Crosby are among the possibilities.

  1. baseballisboring - Mar 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    If they got Garza, damn this team could be dangerous (not that they’re not really good anyway). But if they’re not getting a front line starter then there’s really no point since they’re easily the best team in the central anyway.

    • jason1214 - Mar 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM

      Unless they change their mind, they already turned down Cubs request of Turner, Castellano as a starting point for Garza. Price might be too steep for them.

      • brewcitybummer - Mar 3, 2012 at 4:53 PM

        I doubt Garza gets traded now. I don’t think players of is caliber or better are traded from March-May very often. I took a quick look and at the trades in the March to May window from the last two years and all I saw was a bunch of replacement level players. As much sense as it may make to us to make the big splash now it just doesn’t seem to happen. The Tigers may add a more borderline starter with a career 4th starter to long reliever range but Garza is probably too big to get traded before June.

  2. yankeesfanlen - Mar 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM

    Theo’s first big move is trading Garza?

  3. plmathfoto - Mar 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    I’ve seen them linked to Oswalt, if they can talk him into starting the year rather than waiting till midseason

    • proudlycanadian - Mar 3, 2012 at 3:56 PM

      Oswalt turned them down.

  4. nflfollower - Mar 3, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    Oswalt was scared to pitch in the AL. The asking price was too high for Garza earlier in the season. This team can easily win the Central and pick up a quality starter later as the season progresses. There is no rush. And I certainly don’t want to see Turner and Castellano leave in a trade. I realize this season is World Series or bust, but let’s try to leave a little in the cupboard.

    • jason1214 - Mar 3, 2012 at 10:58 PM

      Leave a little in the cupboard for what? Castellano is probably 2-3 years away and blocked at two positions. If they dealt Turner they still have Oliver, Smyly, Crosby also in the wings. They did give up alot for Fister however.

      • 3yardsandacloud - Mar 4, 2012 at 10:12 AM

        Turner is JV quality. I wouldn’t deal him at all. You can pick up a rental in July and save the kid. Castellanos may be blocked right now, but by the time he’s ready, he’ll get in. Miggie will be DH’ing or you can drop the kid into left field.

        The cupboards have some nice pieces, I’d rather see them make the run without emptying the cupboards at this point

      • jason1214 - Mar 4, 2012 at 10:32 AM

        I get all that, just saying the Tigers should deal from a position of strength. That being said as a Cubs fan I don’t see them getting Garza. I’d love it if Toronto made a run at him in July though : )

    • stex52 - Mar 3, 2012 at 11:23 PM

      Spoken like someone who never saw Oswalt pitch. If you ever saw him scared of anything on the mound you are ahead of most people. I’m not saying he made a good decision for his baseball career, and I wonder if he would reconsider. But scared? Like to see some evidence on that one.

  5. fahlso - Mar 3, 2012 at 7:59 PM

    Castellano/Turner for Garza was pre Prince. Turner may not be the one to go, but Castellano is expendable now as he may be a man without a home in Detroit.

    • Kevin Gillman - Mar 4, 2012 at 12:23 PM

      Are you serious? You really think Miguel Cabrera will stay at 3rd base for the next 2 season, let alone this season? Cabrera’s long term destination is DH, Castellano’s destination is 3rd. I am an Indians fan, and even I know that. Miggy won’t even last the entire season at 3rd.

      • jason1214 - Mar 4, 2012 at 2:26 PM

        Miggy might, ya never know. And I think his long term position is LF, you need DH flexibility.

      • Kevin Gillman - Mar 4, 2012 at 3:34 PM

        Not when he has big beer belly…LOL Hey, the Indians can happily take Victor back next season :)

      • jason1214 - Mar 4, 2012 at 6:24 PM

        Hey I’m a skeptic too, but he looks like he is in the best shape in YEARS, so at least he is trying

      • Kevin Gillman - Mar 4, 2012 at 6:27 PM

        It will be interesting, I am just ready for the season to start. I realize your Tigers are the favorites, as you should be, but Indians have a very talented, young, and hingry team too. Good luck.

      • jason1214 - Mar 4, 2012 at 7:00 PM

        Oh no I’m a Cubs fan. I just thought it would be fun to pester their fans about not going all in for Garza.

      • Kevin Gillman - Mar 4, 2012 at 7:29 PM

        LOL…Okay, well yeah it wouldn’t make sense for the Tigers to get Garza, at least not now. They can easily grab someone else on the free agent market, even now.

      • fahlso - Mar 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM

        I’m not saying they should trade Castellanos, I’m saying they may be open to trading him. When Victor comes back next year he is our DH, which means Miggy has to stay at 3rd. He won’t be a left fielder.

      • Kevin Gillman - Mar 4, 2012 at 5:06 PM

        Listen, Miggy also isn’t a long term answer at 3rd base. I don’t see you guys keeping Victor for long, so you let the kid develop this season at AAA. The honest truth is the Tigers are going to find a hard time keeping these high salary players anyway down the road. I know you can get quite a bit for Victor even next season. But we’ll see, for now though you keep him. I think the Tigers will sign a cheap Number 4 or 5 guy anyway, and not trade anyone, for now.

      • fahlso - Mar 4, 2012 at 10:42 PM

        I personally think they will stay in house for the #5. The thing with Leyland is, that once he gets it in his head that something should be the way it is, then thats the way it is. The man is still trying to give Raburn and Inge an opportunity to play. Those are two of the most worthless players in the MLB. If he thinks that Miggy can get the job done at 3rd for 2-3 years than Miggy will be at 3rd for 2-3 years. That makes Castellanos expendable if it makes the team better somewhere else. Castellanos doesn’t help the Tigers in AAA. Mr. Illitch wants to win and he wants to win now, he’s not getting any younger. He also has said many times that he would give away all his Stanley Cups to get one WS win. If trading a prospect helps win this team a title, then see ya later prospect.

      • Kevin Gillman - Mar 4, 2012 at 10:56 PM

        I understand that, however a few years ago Miggy played 5 games at 3rd base, and Leyland knew it wasn’t going to work so he moved him to 1st base. Again, I am questioning the fact they see Cabrera at 3rd base for 3 years, especially considering they were thinking of moving him to DH, but Miggy did not want to do that. Am I correct there?

      • fahlso - Mar 5, 2012 at 1:35 PM

        You are correct. A few years back when Leyland moved him to first (I believe he had 9 errors at 3rd to start the season) they had a hole at first and had Brandon Inge to play 3rd. Right now they have a better 1st baseman playing first and a 20 mill a year player that doesn’t want to DH everyday needing to play 3rd. Everyone knows that the Tigers aren’t going to rely on D to win games. Look at what happened yesterday in the Spring opener against the Braves. Miggy gets one ground ball and boots it. The offense hits 9 HR’s, Tigers win 18-4. 6 of those HR’s came off of Julio Teheran, the Braves #1 pitching prospect. I know that pitchers are behind hitters at this point, but it still shows that prospects are just that, prospects. If you can flip one for a proven big league talent, go for it.

      • Kevin Gillman - Mar 5, 2012 at 1:57 PM

        Dude, you are talking like spring training is as good as the regular season. Not one single thing means anything. When its the regular season, and Miggy drops an error, it could cost the Tigers the game. Sure, they have an awesome offense, but defense can also win you games. There will be ballgames where the Tigers win 12-4, there will also be games where the Tigers may lose 5-4. The question will be how or why did they lose those games? And even if your Tigers make the playoffs, how far can they go against the elite teams with that defense, especially with Miggy at 3rd base, and Peralta at SS? I guarantee you this, any team can easily lay a bunt on Miggy, and they will be safe at 1st base. And if Verlander is pitching, how will he react, because we all know Justin doesn’t like bunts.

      • fahlso - Mar 5, 2012 at 3:12 PM

        They can lay down bunts towards either corner and beat them out. Sean Casey could beat em out. We know that. How about instead of calling Miggy at 3rd doomsday, how about we give it a chance and see what happens. Obviously Spring Training isn’t the Reg Season, I was just using Teheran as an example of a prospect being a prospect. What this whole thing boils down to, is that the Tigers are in win now mode and if that means shipping out a top prospect to get better today then Mr. Illitch and Dombrowski will make any move they see fit. Arguing about the Tigers D or any future Tigers players is stupid. It is fairly obvious that this team is playing for this year and nothing else.

      • Kevin Gillman - Mar 5, 2012 at 3:36 PM

        I am not disagreeing with that by any means, but the Tigers are in position right now to contend not just this season, but for years to come. So, having said that, you can have your short term goals, and your long term goals. So why unload one of the big prospects when they can go out and get a Starting Pitcher right off the free agency? They do not need a frontline starter, not now at least. What they need is a pitcher who can go out and take the place of a Brad Penny. No big deal, but you’re right, let’s give Miggy a chance at 3rd, for now and see where you guys are at in June. Then maybe they can pull off a trade. I still have to believe my Indians have a chance at the playoffs though, regardless. I refuse to believe we are done when the season hasn’t started, despite the national media believing that.

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