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	<title>Comments on: Mets owners out $83 million pre-Madoff trial</title>
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		<title>By: mrznyc</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/mets-owners-out-83-million-pre-madoff-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-269004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrznyc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The dirty Madoff money was where they got the cash to buy out Doubleday and, for years, was the money that was used to compensate for their horrible stewarship of the team.  One can only hope that Mr. Picard manages to convince a jury that they should cough up the whole 303 million and kick these bums out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dirty Madoff money was where they got the cash to buy out Doubleday and, for years, was the money that was used to compensate for their horrible stewarship of the team.  One can only hope that Mr. Picard manages to convince a jury that they should cough up the whole 303 million and kick these bums out.</p>
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		<title>By: cool10857</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/mets-owners-out-83-million-pre-madoff-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-268839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cool10857]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 22:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say &quot;goodbye&quot; to the Mets, Fred and Jeff....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say &#8220;goodbye&#8221; to the Mets, Fred and Jeff&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mindelm42</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/mets-owners-out-83-million-pre-madoff-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-268815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mindelm42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mets are in HUGE financial trouble! How do you sign free agents or keep from losing your best players?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mets are in HUGE financial trouble! How do you sign free agents or keep from losing your best players?</p>
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		<title>By: mets79</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/mets-owners-out-83-million-pre-madoff-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-268792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mets79]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 20:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair point, apparently Sandy is planning to shop at the Dollar store to round out the roster once teams have to make their final cuts.  The theory is that based on the new CBA there will be more available Major League ready players available at the end of spring training because you now have to pay a veteran 100k minimum to send them to the minors.  So the Mets depth will be a bunch of guys who couldn&#039;t make other teams.  And you better believe they will not send any of their own veterans  to the minors and pay them 100k.  

So in reading back my reply I am ashamed that this is the depth to which this team has fallen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair point, apparently Sandy is planning to shop at the Dollar store to round out the roster once teams have to make their final cuts.  The theory is that based on the new CBA there will be more available Major League ready players available at the end of spring training because you now have to pay a veteran 100k minimum to send them to the minors.  So the Mets depth will be a bunch of guys who couldn&#8217;t make other teams.  And you better believe they will not send any of their own veterans  to the minors and pay them 100k.  </p>
<p>So in reading back my reply I am ashamed that this is the depth to which this team has fallen.</p>
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		<title>By: nygf</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/mets-owners-out-83-million-pre-madoff-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-268768</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nygf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 20:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not saying they should&#039;ve gone out and gotten Albert Pujols this year. But adding a little depth would certainly be nice. There is no depth (most of what used to be depth will be with the big club seeing significant ABs/Innings), so when the inevitable injuries come around we&#039;ll be that much worse off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying they should&#8217;ve gone out and gotten Albert Pujols this year. But adding a little depth would certainly be nice. There is no depth (most of what used to be depth will be with the big club seeing significant ABs/Innings), so when the inevitable injuries come around we&#8217;ll be that much worse off.</p>
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		<title>By: drubeatz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drubeatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Money never solves your problems.  The more you have, the more problems come.  Sandy is doing an OK job.  I like watching young talent.  Wright seems to be headed towards the door this season.  His body is falling apart.  Poor guy,  he says all the wright things.  Keep building the farm and sell the scraps for more young talent.  It&#039;s a shame the Mets ownership made such poor decisions.  Now we have to wait who knows how long for a playoff contending team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money never solves your problems.  The more you have, the more problems come.  Sandy is doing an OK job.  I like watching young talent.  Wright seems to be headed towards the door this season.  His body is falling apart.  Poor guy,  he says all the wright things.  Keep building the farm and sell the scraps for more young talent.  It&#8217;s a shame the Mets ownership made such poor decisions.  Now we have to wait who knows how long for a playoff contending team.</p>
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		<title>By: mets79</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/mets-owners-out-83-million-pre-madoff-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-268711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mets79]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a diehard fan too that watches every inning but I don&#039;t think that all of the Mets problems are related to money.  The Wilpons have spent plenty of money since they hired Omar Minaya but the problem was that it wasn&#039;t spent wisely.   When I hear that people want to get back to spending a ton of money I cringe because that won&#039;t address their organizational issues.  It is too early to tell but I am encouraged by the things Alderson has done with the farm system/draft.  You need to have a solid core of young players before you add significant payroll.  As much as it pains me to lose Reyes it may be a blessing because they really do need to start over and by the time they are relevant again Reyes will be a speed guy entering his 30&#039;s who is injury prone.  Speaking of injuries, that is one of the main things this team needs to fix.  Injuries are part of the game but regularly misdiagnosing injuries is a joke.  When it is all said and done though if these young pitchers they have work out then everything will be fine because pitching solves all your problems (not Moneyball).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a diehard fan too that watches every inning but I don&#8217;t think that all of the Mets problems are related to money.  The Wilpons have spent plenty of money since they hired Omar Minaya but the problem was that it wasn&#8217;t spent wisely.   When I hear that people want to get back to spending a ton of money I cringe because that won&#8217;t address their organizational issues.  It is too early to tell but I am encouraged by the things Alderson has done with the farm system/draft.  You need to have a solid core of young players before you add significant payroll.  As much as it pains me to lose Reyes it may be a blessing because they really do need to start over and by the time they are relevant again Reyes will be a speed guy entering his 30&#8242;s who is injury prone.  Speaking of injuries, that is one of the main things this team needs to fix.  Injuries are part of the game but regularly misdiagnosing injuries is a joke.  When it is all said and done though if these young pitchers they have work out then everything will be fine because pitching solves all your problems (not Moneyball).</p>
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		<title>By: nygf</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/mets-owners-out-83-million-pre-madoff-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-268686</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nygf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True...but they still owe $$$ all over town, not to mention the MLB, and have lost $$ at the park the last couple years. This is not me being a bandwagon fan saying my refusal to go to the park stems from them being a bad team, which they are, but I will still watch almost every game. I won&#039;t give my $ to a group of clowns who I know won&#039;t spend it on making the team I love a better team. I&#039;ll come back when there is someone in place who will spend to make the team better, not cover their own asses cause they were careless, stubborn and got involved with the wrong person.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True&#8230;but they still owe $$$ all over town, not to mention the MLB, and have lost $$ at the park the last couple years. This is not me being a bandwagon fan saying my refusal to go to the park stems from them being a bad team, which they are, but I will still watch almost every game. I won&#8217;t give my $ to a group of clowns who I know won&#8217;t spend it on making the team I love a better team. I&#8217;ll come back when there is someone in place who will spend to make the team better, not cover their own asses cause they were careless, stubborn and got involved with the wrong person.</p>
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		<title>By: mets79</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mets79]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would have been about 20 million per year so they would not need to come up with 100 million this year (actually the reports were that they were willing to do 4 years at 80 million with a 5th year that exercised based on playing time (staying healthy)).  But as for what would happen if someone couldn&#039;t make payroll, just look at the Dodgers last year.  They were under serious threat of not making payroll which meant MLB would have taken over.  Poor Fred Wilpon, the Mets stuff I&#039;m sure is a little annoying but the Dodgers stuff last year must have killed him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would have been about 20 million per year so they would not need to come up with 100 million this year (actually the reports were that they were willing to do 4 years at 80 million with a 5th year that exercised based on playing time (staying healthy)).  But as for what would happen if someone couldn&#8217;t make payroll, just look at the Dodgers last year.  They were under serious threat of not making payroll which meant MLB would have taken over.  Poor Fred Wilpon, the Mets stuff I&#8217;m sure is a little annoying but the Dodgers stuff last year must have killed him.</p>
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		<title>By: sdelmonte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdelmonte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually think that they expected to over the $83 million, and that&#039;s why they didn&#039;t re-sign Reyes.

And if all they have to pay in the end is that, they will be very happy, given the $1 billion suit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think that they expected to over the $83 million, and that&#8217;s why they didn&#8217;t re-sign Reyes.</p>
<p>And if all they have to pay in the end is that, they will be very happy, given the $1 billion suit.</p>
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		<title>By: jhb64</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/mets-owners-out-83-million-pre-madoff-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-268675</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jhb64]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the start of getting new owners!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the start of getting new owners!!</p>
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		<title>By: jhb64</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/mets-owners-out-83-million-pre-madoff-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-268674</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jhb64]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bring in mark Cuban]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring in mark Cuban</p>
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		<title>By: nygf</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/mets-owners-out-83-million-pre-madoff-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-268673</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nygf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, they told us fans they offered Reyes near $100 million to stay this past offseason...why not just use that $$$? They sure as hell didn&#039;t spend it on any players. I mean, seriously, they wouldn&#039;t just say they had that amount of $$$ if it wasn&#039;t true, right? Surely, someone would want to see that $$ eventually, right? You know, like when it came time to pay somebody and all of a sudden they didn&#039;t have the $$ they said they had? I wonder what would happen in such a circumstance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they told us fans they offered Reyes near $100 million to stay this past offseason&#8230;why not just use that $$$? They sure as hell didn&#8217;t spend it on any players. I mean, seriously, they wouldn&#8217;t just say they had that amount of $$$ if it wasn&#8217;t true, right? Surely, someone would want to see that $$ eventually, right? You know, like when it came time to pay somebody and all of a sudden they didn&#8217;t have the $$ they said they had? I wonder what would happen in such a circumstance.</p>
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