Comments on: Shaun Marcum is still dealing with shoulder soreness http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Tue, 21 May 2013 10:59:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: jason1214 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-269314 Wed, 07 Mar 2012 03:44:27 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-269314 I see I touched a nerve on this subject.

]]> By: Ben http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268981 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 07:16:12 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268981 2011 WAR:

Brett Lawrie-2.7 (In 171 PA)
Shaun Marcum-2.7.

So.. yeah. Pretty much a straight-up lose for Milwaukee.

]]> By: brewcrewfan54 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268956 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 03:40:17 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268956 I’m well aware that tv deals are the most important thing when it comes to revenue streams. I’m also well aware that re-signing Marcum and/or Greinke will be very expensive and therefore difficult. It doesn’t change the fact though that the Brewers were better of getting these 2 pitchers for 2 seasons than having Lawrie. Don’t forget Lawrie was playing 2B when he was with the Brewers so je was blocked bu Rickie Weeks. Him playing 3B now is going to have growing pains that the Brewers were not in a position to wait to see if he figures it out.

]]> By: jason1214 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268953 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 03:22:21 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268953 I wouldn’t say Marcum was a bust. I personally like McGowan more.

]]> By: jason1214 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268952 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 03:19:51 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268952 I realize all of that. What I’m saying is, if you haven’t noticed, big market teams are getting HUGE TV deals, and frankly that will put the squeeze more on the small market teams. Its good for Milwaukee now, but might not be so good in 3-5 years. Don’t kid yourself its going to be difficult for Milwaukee to resign Marcum/Greinke.

]]> By: dirtyharry1971 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268951 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 03:12:03 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268951 add this guy to the long list of bluejay busts

]]> By: brewcrewfan54 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268944 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 02:47:12 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268944 Lawrie was a prospect. The Brewers got proven talent for him. When ya give up a prospect for proven talent you always get a more expensive player with less years left of team control. Good pitching is always harder to get than a bat. There will be no looking back at that trade with any disdain.

]]> By: jason1214 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268941 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 02:35:10 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268941 All of your comments are accurate. But long term it will hurt, especially if you don’t re-sign Greinke, and frankly Marcum to me isn’t going to be worth the 13-15 million a year he could command on FA market and I don’t see Milwaukee being able to go above 10 a year for him.
I’m hoping my Cubs can get some of Toronto’s war chest for Garza.

]]> By: lameasish http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268939 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 02:26:42 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268939 I agree with the brewcrew, it’s not often that both teams can come away from a trade and be happy but in this case, it happened.

]]> By: brewcrewfan54 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268934 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 01:59:32 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268934 Marcum was a great pickup for the Brewers needs last year. He had a lot to do with the Brewers making it to the NLCS. Maybe you missed that part. Lawrie has been good so far no doubt but there’s not too many Brewer fans who aren’t happy with the results of that trade. The Brewers needed pitching and they had to give up talent to get talent. Both teams and fans can be happy.

]]> By: hoober27 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268933 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 01:54:58 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268933 It’s bittersweet to watch Lawrie blossom into a potential superstar, but we wouldn’t have made the playoffs last year without Marcum. Will potentially be harder to deal with in a few years, but last year was amazing despite the earlier-than-planned exit from the playoffs. 2008 was a fantasy season with CC steering the ship and as a fan I was just happy to make the postseason. Last year was the first time in my lifetime (28) that the Brewers fielded a team that played to its potential and gave us the best regular season in team history. The playoffs are a crapshoot and we took the eventual champs to Game 6 in the NLCS. I’ll take those memories with/thanks to Marcum over another 5 years of above average offense and terrible pitching while watching other teams play into October.

]]> By: jason1214 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268929 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 01:34:35 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268929 I think its hilarious you got Lawrie for him, way to blow your best trade chip on a non ace Milwaukee. The funniest part? Lawrie will be LIGHT years better than the 3 years of Aramis Ramirez.

]]> By: lameasish http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/shaun-marcum-is-still-dealing-with-shoulder-soreness/comment-page-1/#comment-268922 Tue, 06 Mar 2012 01:19:39 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=118851#comment-268922 Still glad we got lawrie for him. I loved marcum while he was a jay but no one north of the boarder is upset with the trade.

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