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Negotiations between Cole Hamels and Phillies “are heating up”

Mar 6, 2012, 3:15 PM EDT

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Cole Hamels‘ agent is in Florida this week and Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com reports that long-term contract negotiations with the Phillies “are heating up.”

According to Salisbury, agent John Boggs has already met with general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. once and plans to do so again later this week.

Asked to describe the present status of negotiations, Boggs said:

Basically, we’re talking. It’s a process. We’ve had a conversation and we’ll continue the dialogue. Ruben and I have a very good relationship.

However, he replied “I don’t see that happening” when asked if he thought it was possible for the two sides to reach an agreement before he leaves Florida.

The good news for the Phillies is that Boggs and Hamels apparently aren’t setting any sort of deadline for talks, so unlike many other impending free agents they won’t cut off all negotiations on Opening Day. So while they won’t be giving the Phillies a hometown discount, they also won’t be trying to pressure Amaro and company into what Boggs called “a frenzy” that can be created by self-imposed deadlines.

Ultimately it’s going to take more than $100 million to keep Hamels in Philadelphia beyond this season, but it sounds like the Phillies will have every opportunity to retain him if they’re willing to make that commitment before he hits the open market next winter.

  1. bjavie - Mar 6, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    GET IT DONE!!!!

  2. ame123 - Mar 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Once RAJ gets someone in his crosshairs, they are as good as signed.

  3. WhenMattStairsIsKing - Mar 6, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Yay, another albatross pitching salary! That usually ends well for guys not named Halladay or Sabathia!

    • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Mar 6, 2012 at 4:49 PM

      Sorry, big pitching contracts are foolish more times than not! Hate the truth all ya want, folks.

      • bjavie - Mar 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM

        The truth is that Cole Hamels flies to away games. The rest of the team takes an airplane.

      • cur68 - Mar 6, 2012 at 5:38 PM

        Harry LeRoy Halladay III sprints there, pausing only to wrestle anacondas.

  4. uyf1950 - Mar 6, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    What would pre-season and ST be without “rumors”. Here is yet another on the Phillies and Hamels”

    Latest On Cole Hamels
    By Tim Dierkes [March 6 at 3:15pm CST]
    3:15pm: The sides aren’t close to a deal, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweets.

    Ken Rosenthal
    ‏ @Ken_Rosenthal
    4:09pm March 6
    The mere appearance of an agent at camp does NOT mean deal is near. Talks b/w Hamels and #Phillies in same place. Not close to deal. #MLB

    • bjavie - Mar 6, 2012 at 4:45 PM

      No one said a deal was near. No one. This blog post says that talks are “heating up” and then goes on to say it won’t be done before the agent leaves Florida.

  5. El Bravo - Mar 6, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    Does this mean if Cole sinks one more basket that “HE’S ON FIRE!!!” ? NBA Jam reference? Anyone/

    • Kevin S. - Mar 6, 2012 at 11:21 PM

      Man, the only time I get to use that these days is after sinking three cups in a row in beer pong. Only counts if your team gives the “he’s heating up” after two, though.

  6. flyeredup2 - Mar 7, 2012 at 7:46 AM

    Really? Isn’t there anyone else who thinks that Hamels isn’t worth that much money other than me? He’s had 15 wins only once in his career and usually has close to the same # of loses too. And don’t use the excuse that he lead them to the Championship in 2008, pitching didn’t win the series for the Phils that year, it was the bats that carried the team past their average pitching.

    Sorry, but for his career #s, he’s only worth around 8 – 10M/yr. He is not an elite pitcher, just above average.

    • mox19380 - Mar 7, 2012 at 11:18 AM

      I’m a Phillies fan (I should disclose first) and I look at his numbers and you’re right they aren’t gaudy. the excuses though…
      2009 campaign: The Verducci Effect (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tom_verducci/01/11/verducci.effect/index.html). For those not inclined to read. It essentially is a rule that if a [young] pitcher increases his workload from one season to the next a signifcant drop off in performance or injury can be expected
      2010 campaign: He had the second lowest run support of any starter in MLB. He finished with a 3.06 ERA. He would have been 17-11 if the Phillies had scored just 2 runs in 6 of the games he started.

      That being said. His 2008 Postseason MVP is more a result of not having a batter than stood out in that postseason. But you’re right he did allow 7 runs in 3 starts including 4 in his one world series start.

      Nonetheless I believe Cole is probably worth Johan Santana money. We shouldn’t be surprised afterall baseball teams ALWAYS overpay for LHP SP

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