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Great Moments in forgetting it’s March 8

Mar 8, 2012, 9:17 AM EDT

New York Yankees' Jeter reaches for a ground ball at the team's spring training complex in Tampa

This, from Wallace Matthews of ESPN New York, is not something you’d think that someone who has spent many years covering spring training would say, but he says it anyway:

Now that we’ve been through the starting rotation once, it is time to turn our attention to more pressing matters. As in Derek Jeter.

On Wednesday, Jeter went hitless in two at-bats to drop his spring training average to .125. He has one hit in eight at-bats so far and has hit the ball on the ground in seven of those eight ABs (the other was a strikeout). He couldn’t make his patented jump throw on a play that might have saved Hiroki Kuroda a run, and later he booted a routine grounder.

The Yankees have played five game. Jeter has not played in all of them and even when he has played, he’s played only briefly. As Matthews says, it’s been eight (8)(VIII) at bats. Which is two real games’ worth. Sometimes not even two games’ worth.

Yes, someday Derek Jeter is not going to be able to play at a major league level any longer. But (a) we won’t know about it in an eight at-bat sample size; and (b) no one will get extra credit for noting it early like this.

Spring training people. Stats, especially for veterans who aren’t fighting for jobs, matter not.

  1. proudlycanadian - Mar 8, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Consider the source Craig. It is freakin ESPN after all.

    • proudlycanadian - Mar 8, 2012 at 9:31 AM

      P.S. I hate ESPN more than I hate your team.

      • yankeesgameday - Mar 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM

        That’s a toss up, really

    • Kevin S. - Mar 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM

      Not just ESPN, but Wally Matthews. He’s at the bottom of the dungheap that is ESPN New York’s writing staff.

    • cur68 - Mar 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM


  2. chadh88 - Mar 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    “As Matthews says, it’s been eight (8)(VII) at bats.”

    I believe eight (8) is (VIII).

  3. crispybasil - Mar 8, 2012 at 9:29 AM

    What’s Jake Fox up to these days?

    • jwbiii - Mar 8, 2012 at 10:30 AM

      NRI with the Pirates.

  4. - Mar 8, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    We’re not even a week into the spring schedule and I’ve lost track of how many blog posts and tweets I’ve seen saying “OMG! our off-season moves are a complete failure!” (roll eyes)

    I can sort of expect this type of behavior from Fan Boy Blogs, but not credentialed media in big markets.

  5. deathmonkey41 - Mar 8, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    He might have booted a ball, but he signed in afterwards and left it in a gift basket for a pretty young lady the following morning.

    • phukyouk - Mar 8, 2012 at 9:49 AM

      I honestly do not think this will get old anytime soon

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Mar 8, 2012 at 10:17 AM

      If the errors become chronic, perhaps Derek’s driver could start delivering the ball to first base on Derek’s behalf, along with some memorabilia and a “you’re welcome” note.

      • wlschneider09 - Mar 8, 2012 at 3:32 PM

        Nah, the Yankees have been doing just fine for years classifying these events as “hits”.

  6. icanspeel - Mar 8, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    I don’t think anyone should really analyze Spring Training since there have been so many players who tore it up in spring training just to do nothing in the regular season and vice versa.

  7. Gobias Industries - Mar 8, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    I hate to defend this guy (Matthews) and that guy (Jeter) but this excerpt from Matthews’ article is taken out of context. If you read the entire article, he’s basically making some of the same points Craig is here. He’s saying that it’s waaayyy too soon to say Jeter’s done (“it’s a ridiculously small sample, to be sure” and “forget about spring stats — they mean nothing”); and that he deserves the benefit of the doubt after the halfway decent season he had last year. But the fact of the matter is that at this late point in Jeter’s career, you really don’t know what you’re going to get out of him. And he’s asking his readers to take a stab at it: will we get 2011 Jeter again or 2010 Jeter?

    • Gobias Industries - Mar 8, 2012 at 10:01 AM

      But to be clear, I don’t like this guy or that guy.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Mar 8, 2012 at 10:21 AM

      You and your “context” and “perspective” and “reading the whole article.” Way to douse a fun story about people who lack perspective, take things out of context and make sweeping decision based on limited information.

      • deathmonkey41 - Mar 8, 2012 at 11:47 AM

        I’m taking your comment about taking the fun out of the story as you calling us all a-holes.

  8. Kevin S. - Mar 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Wally gonna Wally.

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