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	<title>Comments on: Jonathan Papelbon: Phillies fans &#8220;tend to know the game a little better&#8221; than Red Sox fans</title>
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		<title>By: steelersredsoxnation</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[agreed...red sox have been selling out every gay since 2003...a year BEFORE winning their first world series in 86 years. got to have respect for cubs fans. its a shame the world was robbed of a cubs red sox world series becase of bartman lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed&#8230;red sox have been selling out every gay since 2003&#8230;a year BEFORE winning their first world series in 86 years. got to have respect for cubs fans. its a shame the world was robbed of a cubs red sox world series becase of bartman lol</p>
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		<title>By: 1historian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 1historian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) I live in northern New England. The last pro ball game I saw was in the late 80s in Boston - Celts v. Minnesota. I lived in Boston in the early 70s and remember going to see the Celts with Cowens, Silas, Nelly et. al. Talked to Johnny Most when the Celts won it in 1974 and a bunch of us went to Logan to welcome them home. Johnny was plastered. And he was FUNNY. 
2) When I was young (early 50s)  I went to NY to visit my uncle and he took me to Yankee Stadium and the Yanks played the Indians with Larry Doby. Lopat, Berra, Page,  Rizzuto, Reynolds, et. al. Yankee Stadium was a majestic place. And their announcer, the guy who recently died, had the perfect voice for the place. 
3) When we lived in Maryland my dad took me to Memorial Stadium and we saw Ty Cobb there.
4) Brooks Robinson was the greatest 3rd baseman of all time. 
5) The last tine I was at Fenway Park was the fall of 1972. I would pay $2 and sit in the bleachers. More than once some dudes would show up and we would sit there and get an EXCELLENT buzz on. I never even knew their names. Fun memory. 

I have not forgiven baseball for the 1994 strike, mainly because they never apologized. I still love the game but it&#039;s more fun to buy a nice large brewski and go watch the local H.S. team. The money they make is absurd to and beyond the point of being obscene, but if the market can bear it - go for it. I&#039;m simply saying that they long ago priced old farts like me out of the game. 

The Yankees are the most successful sports franchise of all time. In addition to that they have the classiest home team shirts in all of pro sports. The pin-stripes. That&#039;s all you need. And no name on the back - it&#039;s on the front. That STILL doesn&#039;t mean that I like them. 

I became a Pats fan when they won their 1st SB. Before that I hardly even knew they existed, except for SBXX. Now I am a Pats fan because IMO one of the requirements for BEING a Pats fan is that you be arrogant and obnoxious, which I like to be. 

52 and counting - go iggles]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) I live in northern New England. The last pro ball game I saw was in the late 80s in Boston &#8211; Celts v. Minnesota. I lived in Boston in the early 70s and remember going to see the Celts with Cowens, Silas, Nelly et. al. Talked to Johnny Most when the Celts won it in 1974 and a bunch of us went to Logan to welcome them home. Johnny was plastered. And he was FUNNY.<br />
2) When I was young (early 50s)  I went to NY to visit my uncle and he took me to Yankee Stadium and the Yanks played the Indians with Larry Doby. Lopat, Berra, Page,  Rizzuto, Reynolds, et. al. Yankee Stadium was a majestic place. And their announcer, the guy who recently died, had the perfect voice for the place.<br />
3) When we lived in Maryland my dad took me to Memorial Stadium and we saw Ty Cobb there.<br />
4) Brooks Robinson was the greatest 3rd baseman of all time.<br />
5) The last tine I was at Fenway Park was the fall of 1972. I would pay $2 and sit in the bleachers. More than once some dudes would show up and we would sit there and get an EXCELLENT buzz on. I never even knew their names. Fun memory. </p>
<p>I have not forgiven baseball for the 1994 strike, mainly because they never apologized. I still love the game but it&#8217;s more fun to buy a nice large brewski and go watch the local H.S. team. The money they make is absurd to and beyond the point of being obscene, but if the market can bear it &#8211; go for it. I&#8217;m simply saying that they long ago priced old farts like me out of the game. </p>
<p>The Yankees are the most successful sports franchise of all time. In addition to that they have the classiest home team shirts in all of pro sports. The pin-stripes. That&#8217;s all you need. And no name on the back &#8211; it&#8217;s on the front. That STILL doesn&#8217;t mean that I like them. </p>
<p>I became a Pats fan when they won their 1st SB. Before that I hardly even knew they existed, except for SBXX. Now I am a Pats fan because IMO one of the requirements for BEING a Pats fan is that you be arrogant and obnoxious, which I like to be. </p>
<p>52 and counting &#8211; go iggles</p>
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		<title>By: 1historian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well said]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said</p>
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		<title>By: 1historian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1historian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IF a filly team wins it all.

BIG difference]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF a filly team wins it all.</p>
<p>BIG difference</p>
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		<title>By: 1historian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1historian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sasquash20 - (with thanks to Ann Landers) - you have a point, but if you keep your hat on maybe on one will notice.

Get it?

I didn&#039;t think so]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sasquash20 &#8211; (with thanks to Ann Landers) &#8211; you have a point, but if you keep your hat on maybe on one will notice.</p>
<p>Get it?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think so</p>
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		<title>By: 24missed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[24missed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gosh, 
I wish I could completely delete the last post.  I don&#039;t like exposing myself, well, in that way.  
I&#039;m no saint and that certainly wasn&#039;t conveyed in my thesis I prepared for you.  In fact, the opposite it true.  More tainted than sainted.  Ask Cur.
Mr. Evans, Mr. Gold Glove himself, was closely followed.  Such a shame he didn&#039;t play his totallity of his career as a RS.  
But, I&#039;m a Manny lover.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh,<br />
I wish I could completely delete the last post.  I don&#8217;t like exposing myself, well, in that way.<br />
I&#8217;m no saint and that certainly wasn&#8217;t conveyed in my thesis I prepared for you.  In fact, the opposite it true.  More tainted than sainted.  Ask Cur.<br />
Mr. Evans, Mr. Gold Glove himself, was closely followed.  Such a shame he didn&#8217;t play his totallity of his career as a RS.<br />
But, I&#8217;m a Manny lover.</p>
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		<title>By: wendell7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wendell7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, well that is a much deeper meaning than I would have expected, but it gets a thumbs-up from me just the same. Cheers to you and your peace/love hippy-happiness.

I thought maybe you fondly recalled the days when Dwight Evans patrolled right field for the Crimson Hose. That is the 24 that I miss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, well that is a much deeper meaning than I would have expected, but it gets a thumbs-up from me just the same. Cheers to you and your peace/love hippy-happiness.</p>
<p>I thought maybe you fondly recalled the days when Dwight Evans patrolled right field for the Crimson Hose. That is the 24 that I miss.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Wright 212</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Wright 212]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When was the last time you left your parents&#039; basement? 1974? We (New York) are indeed the pinnacle of all sports like  jimeejohnson said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When was the last time you left your parents&#8217; basement? 1974? We (New York) are indeed the pinnacle of all sports like  jimeejohnson said.</p>
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		<title>By: 24missed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[24missed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Complex answer to a simple question.

I used to have a different handle for use on a different WordPress blog, prior to finding HBT.  theLorax or one of my other peace/love hippy-happy ones. 

I changed this name for personal reasons that collided at the same point in my life.  Life lessons gained and my life forever altered.  My spirit within hasn&#039;t changed, only blossomed and that spirit reminds me to remain true to myself along this journey. 

I don&#039;t know if this makes sense, but, yes, I do love Manny.  I can find beauty within most everything and everyone, if I try really, really, really hard.  Sometimes, it is really hard.  But,  other people must struggle and give up on finding beauty within me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Complex answer to a simple question.</p>
<p>I used to have a different handle for use on a different WordPress blog, prior to finding HBT.  theLorax or one of my other peace/love hippy-happy ones. </p>
<p>I changed this name for personal reasons that collided at the same point in my life.  Life lessons gained and my life forever altered.  My spirit within hasn&#8217;t changed, only blossomed and that spirit reminds me to remain true to myself along this journey. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if this makes sense, but, yes, I do love Manny.  I can find beauty within most everything and everyone, if I try really, really, really hard.  Sometimes, it is really hard.  But,  other people must struggle and give up on finding beauty within me.</p>
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		<title>By: El Bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[El Bravo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[INSTIGATORS!!!!! MOUNT UP!  Happy Friday everyone and Go Bulls/Go Braves]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>INSTIGATORS!!!!! MOUNT UP!  Happy Friday everyone and Go Bulls/Go Braves</p>
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		<title>By: wendell7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wendell7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bonus points for use of the word &quot;miscreant&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bonus points for use of the word &#8220;miscreant&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: led2113</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Boston sucks&quot;?  &quot;Boston Losers&quot; - Ok Sasquatch...if that is the case - what is Philly?
Let&#039;s have a look over the last 10 yrs:
Baseball - Sox - 2 WS Championships (Only team in MLB to win multiple titles in the new millennium) - Phillies - 1 title.  Advantage: Boston
Football - Pats - 3 SB Championships and 5 SB appearances.  Eagles - ZERO SB Championships (In their history) and 1 SB appearance....LOST TO THE PATS.  HUGE ADVANTAGE: Boston
Basketball - Celtics - 1 NBA Championship and 2 Finals appearances - Sixers - 1 Finals appearance (11 yrs ago !!) got smoked 4-1.  Advantage - Boston
Hockey - Bruins - 1 Stanley Cup Championship - Flyers - ZERO Stanley Cup Championships - 1 appearance.  Advantage - Boston
That is 7 major sports championships for Boston to 1 for Philly.
Tell me again the &quot;logic&quot; coming from a Philly fan with what I have described how you can call Boston &quot;Losers&quot;???   Because the Sixers won a meaningless game against an old, hurt Celtics team that is going nowhere?  Wow - grasping at straws here.
Thank you for Francona and Schilling who had to come to Trophy Town to win a title !  
I&#039;m expecting your blood pressure to rise while responding.  Sports is entertainment here in Trophy Town....we&#039;re used to winning.  Sports is personal in Philly and.....You guys aren&#039;t used to winning much.  Tell me again how a Philly fan can call Boston &quot;Losers&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Boston sucks&#8221;?  &#8220;Boston Losers&#8221; &#8211; Ok Sasquatch&#8230;if that is the case &#8211; what is Philly?<br />
Let&#8217;s have a look over the last 10 yrs:<br />
Baseball &#8211; Sox &#8211; 2 WS Championships (Only team in MLB to win multiple titles in the new millennium) &#8211; Phillies &#8211; 1 title.  Advantage: Boston<br />
Football &#8211; Pats &#8211; 3 SB Championships and 5 SB appearances.  Eagles &#8211; ZERO SB Championships (In their history) and 1 SB appearance&#8230;.LOST TO THE PATS.  HUGE ADVANTAGE: Boston<br />
Basketball &#8211; Celtics &#8211; 1 NBA Championship and 2 Finals appearances &#8211; Sixers &#8211; 1 Finals appearance (11 yrs ago !!) got smoked 4-1.  Advantage &#8211; Boston<br />
Hockey &#8211; Bruins &#8211; 1 Stanley Cup Championship &#8211; Flyers &#8211; ZERO Stanley Cup Championships &#8211; 1 appearance.  Advantage &#8211; Boston<br />
That is 7 major sports championships for Boston to 1 for Philly.<br />
Tell me again the &#8220;logic&#8221; coming from a Philly fan with what I have described how you can call Boston &#8220;Losers&#8221;???   Because the Sixers won a meaningless game against an old, hurt Celtics team that is going nowhere?  Wow &#8211; grasping at straws here.<br />
Thank you for Francona and Schilling who had to come to Trophy Town to win a title !<br />
I&#8217;m expecting your blood pressure to rise while responding.  Sports is entertainment here in Trophy Town&#8230;.we&#8217;re used to winning.  Sports is personal in Philly and&#8230;..You guys aren&#8217;t used to winning much.  Tell me again how a Philly fan can call Boston &#8220;Losers&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 15:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ordinarily, I tend to stay away from these &quot;my fanbase is better than your fanbase because your entire fanbase is a bunch of thugs and my fanbase are all angels&quot; posts, save for some snarky general comments directed toward posters I&#039;ve dealt with before.  Last week---I think, though it might have been before that---I chimed in on the &quot;Nats promotion gets weird&quot; post to take a Phightins Phan to task for his call to violence, and trying to keep the discourse civil.  

I admit that I used to rant about the bad rap that Philly fans get.  But I realized that there&#039;s no point in trying to defend a few boisterous and vocal bad apples, since they&#039;re in every fanbase and they don&#039;t really deserve defending, not to mention that they don&#039;t care, especially in an anonymous forum such as a blog on the interwebs, so why try?

However, I had to post here in reply to your comment.  You obviously have no clue about Phillies history. And based on this comment and comments you have made in the past, you are either an idiot, a hypocrite, or some combination of both.  My guess is both, but that might be giving you too much credit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ordinarily, I tend to stay away from these &#8220;my fanbase is better than your fanbase because your entire fanbase is a bunch of thugs and my fanbase are all angels&#8221; posts, save for some snarky general comments directed toward posters I&#8217;ve dealt with before.  Last week&#8212;I think, though it might have been before that&#8212;I chimed in on the &#8220;Nats promotion gets weird&#8221; post to take a Phightins Phan to task for his call to violence, and trying to keep the discourse civil.  </p>
<p>I admit that I used to rant about the bad rap that Philly fans get.  But I realized that there&#8217;s no point in trying to defend a few boisterous and vocal bad apples, since they&#8217;re in every fanbase and they don&#8217;t really deserve defending, not to mention that they don&#8217;t care, especially in an anonymous forum such as a blog on the interwebs, so why try?</p>
<p>However, I had to post here in reply to your comment.  You obviously have no clue about Phillies history. And based on this comment and comments you have made in the past, you are either an idiot, a hypocrite, or some combination of both.  My guess is both, but that might be giving you too much credit.</p>
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		<title>By: wendell7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wendell7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 13:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not here to argue, especially in an argument against the Red Sox as I am a Red Sox fan. But technically, you are also wrong.

The Philadelphia Athletics were founded as Philadelphia&#039;s 1st professional baseball team in 1901 and they went on to win 3 of 4 World Series from 1910 to 1914, and also titles in 1929 &amp; 1930. So there are 5 more championships that you didn&#039;t mention for the city of Philadelphia.

Again, I&#039;m not taking sides in an argument.  Just pointing out that the original comment by Mrznyc was in reference to baseball championships in each city, not Boston Red Sox titles VS Philadelphia Phillies titles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not here to argue, especially in an argument against the Red Sox as I am a Red Sox fan. But technically, you are also wrong.</p>
<p>The Philadelphia Athletics were founded as Philadelphia&#8217;s 1st professional baseball team in 1901 and they went on to win 3 of 4 World Series from 1910 to 1914, and also titles in 1929 &amp; 1930. So there are 5 more championships that you didn&#8217;t mention for the city of Philadelphia.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not taking sides in an argument.  Just pointing out that the original comment by Mrznyc was in reference to baseball championships in each city, not Boston Red Sox titles VS Philadelphia Phillies titles.</p>
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		<title>By: ikoiko72</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait until Paps blows a save or two or three in a row, especially to the Mets. Philly fans will turn on him fast then they turned on Santa Claus.

We know Paps left to philly for the money (that and the local MENSA chapter is closer to the ballpark). Good luck to him, but he should just throw the baseball.

Philly has battery night, don&#039;t they?  Nice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait until Paps blows a save or two or three in a row, especially to the Mets. Philly fans will turn on him fast then they turned on Santa Claus.</p>
<p>We know Paps left to philly for the money (that and the local MENSA chapter is closer to the ballpark). Good luck to him, but he should just throw the baseball.</p>
<p>Philly has battery night, don&#8217;t they?  Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: timasahh</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction, he was at his house for four months, and has been in Florida for like two weeks.  This is just a man trying to make nice with his new club.  Something he could do much more easily by keeping quiet and saving games.  See: Brad Lidge circa 2008.  Well, not really circa 2008, more like exactly 2008, and nothing after.

I must admit I’m excited for more stability at the back end of the pen, but I’m wary on his attitude thus far.  Even for Philly he seems like kind of a douche.  Keep your antics and alter egos to yourself.  We just want winners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, he was at his house for four months, and has been in Florida for like two weeks.  This is just a man trying to make nice with his new club.  Something he could do much more easily by keeping quiet and saving games.  See: Brad Lidge circa 2008.  Well, not really circa 2008, more like exactly 2008, and nothing after.</p>
<p>I must admit I’m excited for more stability at the back end of the pen, but I’m wary on his attitude thus far.  Even for Philly he seems like kind of a douche.  Keep your antics and alter egos to yourself.  We just want winners.</p>
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		<title>By: thesportsguy13</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 04:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m by no means a Philly hater. I respect all Philly teams in each sport. But as a red sox find I find it ignorant that you blindly agree with pap without any actual knowledge of your accusations. And who&#039;s to say what teams have &quot;smarter fans&quot;? With every fan base for every team in every sport there is the smart fan...who follows and supports his team but can still have intellectual unbiased opinions and ideas about his and opposing teams. And then there&#039;s the blind fan...these fans solely live in the moment and have little to no grasp on the reality of his team and the  sport.

For example...if I were to tell a phillies fan that the phillies are a good team. Halladay and lee are solid at the top of the rotation but nothing intimidating from 3-5. Offense is getting older and the only real threat is Howard. Utley and Rollins and placido are still serviceable players but all in all not enough offense to contend with the AL...now a smart fan would say that&#039;s a reasonable and fair assessment but still think they can make a run at the world series...the blind fan would say fuck you phillies rule you suck lol

You could also tell me the sox have enough offense but the latter half of the rotation is suspect and the bullpen outside of bard is very underwhelming and occasionally downright awful. And I would have to totally agree with you especially with how good the AL is going to be with the sox, Yankees, tigers, rangers, and angels all have very strong teams.

 So to say one fan base is &quot;smarter&quot; than the another is ignorant. There are smart fans and dumb fans with the red sox just as there are with the phillies]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m by no means a Philly hater. I respect all Philly teams in each sport. But as a red sox find I find it ignorant that you blindly agree with pap without any actual knowledge of your accusations. And who&#8217;s to say what teams have &#8220;smarter fans&#8221;? With every fan base for every team in every sport there is the smart fan&#8230;who follows and supports his team but can still have intellectual unbiased opinions and ideas about his and opposing teams. And then there&#8217;s the blind fan&#8230;these fans solely live in the moment and have little to no grasp on the reality of his team and the  sport.</p>
<p>For example&#8230;if I were to tell a phillies fan that the phillies are a good team. Halladay and lee are solid at the top of the rotation but nothing intimidating from 3-5. Offense is getting older and the only real threat is Howard. Utley and Rollins and placido are still serviceable players but all in all not enough offense to contend with the AL&#8230;now a smart fan would say that&#8217;s a reasonable and fair assessment but still think they can make a run at the world series&#8230;the blind fan would say fuck you phillies rule you suck lol</p>
<p>You could also tell me the sox have enough offense but the latter half of the rotation is suspect and the bullpen outside of bard is very underwhelming and occasionally downright awful. And I would have to totally agree with you especially with how good the AL is going to be with the sox, Yankees, tigers, rangers, and angels all have very strong teams.</p>
<p> So to say one fan base is &#8220;smarter&#8221; than the another is ignorant. There are smart fans and dumb fans with the red sox just as there are with the phillies</p>
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		<title>By: sasquash20</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 03:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its all in good fun]]></description>
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		<title>By: sasquash20</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 03:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ownership sucked in Philly for almost my whole life. They would never ever spend the extra money to make us a legit team. The fans still cared even if they didn&#039;t pay the ticket prices in full force like they do now. Phillies ownership before the 08 WS title, was looked at as a complete joke. There is a reason Sports talk in Philly dominates the ratings and has for a long time. We love our sports teams even when we hate them. If that doesn&#039;t make sense then you have no idea what its like to be a philly sports fan. We are without a doubt a football town and always will be. But if ownership spends the money to build what we feel is a legit team then we always back it up. Look at the Flyers attendance, we have always packed that place because Ed Snider is always trying to win. So eat it Philly haters!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ownership sucked in Philly for almost my whole life. They would never ever spend the extra money to make us a legit team. The fans still cared even if they didn&#8217;t pay the ticket prices in full force like they do now. Phillies ownership before the 08 WS title, was looked at as a complete joke. There is a reason Sports talk in Philly dominates the ratings and has for a long time. We love our sports teams even when we hate them. If that doesn&#8217;t make sense then you have no idea what its like to be a philly sports fan. We are without a doubt a football town and always will be. But if ownership spends the money to build what we feel is a legit team then we always back it up. Look at the Flyers attendance, we have always packed that place because Ed Snider is always trying to win. So eat it Philly haters!</p>
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		<title>By: sasquash20</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 02:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never! My grand pop was a die hard hoops guy from Philly and taught me to hate the Celtics. The Celtics and the Lakers of the past probably kept the Sixers/Warriors from winning another 6-7 titles at least. I think hate among sports fans is a good thing (as long as there is no violence). For me when the Celtics win a title or a NY team wins one it just makes me want to see them lose that much more. And it makes it better when a Philly team wins it all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never! My grand pop was a die hard hoops guy from Philly and taught me to hate the Celtics. The Celtics and the Lakers of the past probably kept the Sixers/Warriors from winning another 6-7 titles at least. I think hate among sports fans is a good thing (as long as there is no violence). For me when the Celtics win a title or a NY team wins one it just makes me want to see them lose that much more. And it makes it better when a Philly team wins it all.</p>
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		<title>By: sasquash20</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 02:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep hating it fuels the fire!]]></description>
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		<title>By: sasquash20</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 02:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep living in the past bro.]]></description>
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		<title>By: sasquash20</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 02:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My point being is that New York sports fans don&#039;t have the passion that Philly or Boston fans have. NYC fans think the world begins and ends with them. I think Philly, Boston, and Chicago all have more passionate fans then NYC fans. I don&#039;t if NYC folks are too busy with everything that is going on up there to be as focused as the other east coast power sports cities but they aren&#039;t as passionate in my opinion. I rank them 4th in all of sports in this country. That is still pretty high just not as high as the 3 cities I&#039;ve mentioned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point being is that New York sports fans don&#8217;t have the passion that Philly or Boston fans have. NYC fans think the world begins and ends with them. I think Philly, Boston, and Chicago all have more passionate fans then NYC fans. I don&#8217;t if NYC folks are too busy with everything that is going on up there to be as focused as the other east coast power sports cities but they aren&#8217;t as passionate in my opinion. I rank them 4th in all of sports in this country. That is still pretty high just not as high as the 3 cities I&#8217;ve mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: andyreidisfat</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 02:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 things 

First,  phillies fans are not bandwagon at all.  We have all followed this team through 10 thousand losses.  Through ownerships that didn&#039;t spend a dime.  Even if we didn&#039;t go to games when they played in the dump, we all still followed the team.  Then they said hey we got this new park and if you folks go to games we will up our pay role and win. So we all went and what do u know they spent more and won.  So really we got behind te stadium and the new/old back up first baseman.  Thus we are not band wagon. 

As to what pap said, I&#039;d have to agree. Boston fans are a bit nuts when it comes to baseball an the phillies tend to have a calmer smarter fan.  Now both sets of fans are top 4 as to how smart they are so it&#039;s no knock.  I am not comparing Boston to Miami or anything.  

It&#039;s also opposite for football as eagles fans are retarded and pats fans seem more in control]]></description>
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<p>First,  phillies fans are not bandwagon at all.  We have all followed this team through 10 thousand losses.  Through ownerships that didn&#8217;t spend a dime.  Even if we didn&#8217;t go to games when they played in the dump, we all still followed the team.  Then they said hey we got this new park and if you folks go to games we will up our pay role and win. So we all went and what do u know they spent more and won.  So really we got behind te stadium and the new/old back up first baseman.  Thus we are not band wagon. </p>
<p>As to what pap said, I&#8217;d have to agree. Boston fans are a bit nuts when it comes to baseball an the phillies tend to have a calmer smarter fan.  Now both sets of fans are top 4 as to how smart they are so it&#8217;s no knock.  I am not comparing Boston to Miami or anything.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also opposite for football as eagles fans are retarded and pats fans seem more in control</p>
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		<title>By: thesportsguy13</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 02:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wendell....he would still be wrong....boston has 33 professional championships, Philly has 10]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendell&#8230;.he would still be wrong&#8230;.boston has 33 professional championships, Philly has 10</p>
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		<title>By: crisisofinfinitephils</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 02:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh shit there was?!! Holy moley that&#039;s some knowledge. Before I was born even? Where these A&#039;s you speak of the same as the Kansas city A&#039;s? Wait wait they aren&#039;t the same as the Oakland A&#039;s are they? And two final queries : 1)how does this pertain to the baseball iq of Boston vs. philly fans? And 2) who gives a shit?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh shit there was?!! Holy moley that&#8217;s some knowledge. Before I was born even? Where these A&#8217;s you speak of the same as the Kansas city A&#8217;s? Wait wait they aren&#8217;t the same as the Oakland A&#8217;s are they? And two final queries : 1)how does this pertain to the baseball iq of Boston vs. philly fans? And 2) who gives a shit?</p>
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		<title>By: wendell7</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 02:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He said more banners hang in Philly, not &quot;the Phillies&quot; won more world series. He was referring to sports towns, not sports teams. The Phillies weren&#039;t the first pro baseball team in Philadelphia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He said more banners hang in Philly, not &#8220;the Phillies&#8221; won more world series. He was referring to sports towns, not sports teams. The Phillies weren&#8217;t the first pro baseball team in Philadelphia.</p>
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		<title>By: jimeejohnson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He choked the Red Sox right out of the playoffs last season with his last inning, final game LOSS to the Orioles, who celebrated like they won the World Series.  That loss wasn&#039;t solely Papelbum&#039;s fault, but he couldn&#039;t put a lower tier team like the Orioles away when it counted.  His dominance will be in question until he proves himself in the National League. He should do his talking on the field, although if money is your prime objective you&#039;re gonna talk up a storm to get attention, like Papelbum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He choked the Red Sox right out of the playoffs last season with his last inning, final game LOSS to the Orioles, who celebrated like they won the World Series.  That loss wasn&#8217;t solely Papelbum&#8217;s fault, but he couldn&#8217;t put a lower tier team like the Orioles away when it counted.  His dominance will be in question until he proves himself in the National League. He should do his talking on the field, although if money is your prime objective you&#8217;re gonna talk up a storm to get attention, like Papelbum.</p>
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		<title>By: wendell7</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Papelbon or sasquash?]]></description>
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