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Chris Carpenter leaves Cardinals camp with neck injury

Mar 9, 2012, 10:15 AM EDT

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Chris Carpenter will miss his scheduled start Monday and has left Cardinals camp to get a second opinion on his injured neck, according to Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post Dispatch.

Strauss writes that the Cardinals have “remained intentionally vague about Carpenter’s timetable after initially suggesting he would miss one Grapefruit League start.”

Carpenter finally admitted yesterday that he’s had neck soreness for nearly a week, but no one has offered any further details about the specifics of the injury. Whatever the case, the 36-year-old former Cy Young winner’s status for Opening Day is now very much in question.

  1. okwhitefalcon - Mar 9, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    Hello, can I please speak to Mr. Oswalt please?

    Open the purse strings Mr. Dewitt and let Movdo his thing – and fast.

    • stex52 - Mar 9, 2012 at 3:45 PM

      To Cards Management:

      I told you guys all winter!

      You can’t get too much pitching! Carpenter is great but he is a bit fragile! You saved all that money on Pujols! Oswalt is a bargain and a gamer!

      Have to pull the trigger on that one. Should have done it already. They just never listen.

      • The Baseball Idiot - Mar 9, 2012 at 3:56 PM

        It doesn’t make sense to save money on Pujols and then overpay for Oswalt.

        Oswalt has been proven to be fragile himself, and a reasonable expectation for salary along with performance incentives would have gotten him a job.

        Instead, he chose to believe that the millions of dollars the Cardinals offered him was a lack of respect.

        I guess he’ll get a lot more respect on the unemployment line.

      • stex52 - Mar 9, 2012 at 11:13 PM

        Check the innings stats since 2004 and tell me which way you would gamble. The back may be an indicator that Oswalt will not pitch for three or four more years, but you are 200+ innings of quality ball for seven years running, and 139 last year.

        There is a big difference between overplaying the bargaining hand and not being worth the money.

  2. okwhitefalcon - Mar 9, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    EDIT FUNCION: “Mo do his thing”.

    • rooney24 - Mar 9, 2012 at 10:24 AM

      Edit function: “EDIT FUNCTION”

      • okwhitefalcon - Mar 9, 2012 at 10:33 AM

        That was definitely a cry for help o my part!

  3. contraryguy - Mar 9, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    36 year old with a bad neck? Ask Peyton Manning how that turned out.

    • cintiphil - Mar 9, 2012 at 10:40 AM

      This is not exactly what Manning is suffering through. This just points out the problems with your team (in any sport) getting older. We who are older than Carpenter know how age affects your performance in any sport. That is the same problem that will inflict the Phills. The guys who get old, have to be in great shape and must avoid any small injury which could lead to bigger problems. Carpenter has had these small problems in the recent past, and I don’t think he is done with them. In addition, I don’t see Oswalt making any difference, as he may have the same type of problems (but with his back) for whomever picks him up.

  4. thefalcon123 - Mar 9, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    I love me some Chris Carpenter, but assuming he would have had about 32 starts a year, Chris has missed 100 starts since signing in 2003:

    2003: Misses entire season
    2004: Misses last two weeks and entire post season
    2007: Starts opening day, is injured and misses rest of the season
    2008: Pitches in 4 games total
    2009: Misses 3 weeks

    He’s been very durable the past two seasons, but with Carpenter, you’re always fearful of when the other shoe is gonna drop.

    • cintiphil - Mar 9, 2012 at 11:00 AM

      Not to mention, that last season, he pitched very well overall, however we don’t know how injuries affected him early on in the season. Didn’t he fail to win a game for the first 9 or 10 starts? WHY? I think it had to be related to some minor nagging injuries which he may have tried to played through.

      • Old Gator - Mar 9, 2012 at 11:54 AM

        Heads up swap, Carpenter for Krazy Karlos Lamebraino. One with a neck injury, the other with congenital brain damage. Seems fair.

      • ultimatecardinalwarrior - Mar 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM

        IIRC, during those 8 or 9 games, Carp was still actually the Cardinals best pitcher if you look at advanced stats, but lost a bunch of games due to bad luck. Everybody else won games because the offense was incredible last year.

      • kingofmeh - Mar 9, 2012 at 4:47 PM

        UCW is right – carpenter pitched very well early on. carpenter’s early stretch was exhibit A for the “pitching wins are terrible” case.

        early in 2011, the cards’ bullpen was terrible. only once they cut all the dead weight out of it (franklin, batista, tallet, augenstein) did it become excellent. without looking back game-by-game, i seem to recall carpenter being a multiple victim of bullpen blunders.

        also, although run production was generally good in april, it slacked off in may and june.

  5. Utley's Hair - Mar 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Any word on whether it was towel related?

    • missthemexpos - Mar 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM

      Last year it was oblique injuries that ravaged MLB. Lets hope we will not look back to 2012 being the year of TRNI (towel related neck injuries).

      • Old Gator - Mar 9, 2012 at 11:56 AM

        Eddie the Eagle on bath towels: if you see a towel on the counter or bench in the shower room, don’t touch it. Leave it alone, tell an adult and let yourself air dry.

  6. posterkid88 - Mar 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Every time the Cardinals win the World Series, Carpenter seems to go down at the start of the next season.

    • - Mar 9, 2012 at 10:53 AM

      Right, which is the reason they shouldn’t win anymore of those.

  7. ajcardsfan - Mar 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Not the kind of news I wanted to see to start my Friday. I’ve got a cold and now Carpenter’s hurt, at least the Blues and Missouri won last night. I hope this isn’t a sign of my weekend to come.

  8. okwhitefalcon - Mar 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    Listening to Derrick Goold now on the Bernie Miklasz show, he saying the Cardinals FO is “very concerned” and Carpenter is “leaving camp” for a second opinion.

    He also said they would definitely revisit the Roy Oswalt talks if things don’t go well with Carps diagnosis.

  9. okwhitefalcon - Mar 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Joe Strauss is now reporting Carpenter is being examined for both nerve and muscle related issues in his neck.

    Not good…

  10. The Baseball Idiot - Mar 9, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    I suppose holding off on the doom and despair until we get an acutal diagnosis would be too much to ask for?

    Considering his history injury, I would bet on the Cardinals being cautious and overreacting before I go for the season/career-ending injury. But what do I know. I’m an eternal optimist.

  11. Fink - Mar 9, 2012 at 7:04 PM

    too bad he’s injured, i never wish for injuries to another player…. that being said, non-cardinal’s fans will be very glad to see one of the biggest whiners/scumbags in the MLB on the bench this season.

  12. westcoastredbird - Mar 9, 2012 at 8:25 PM

    I feel Carpenter’s pain. Ever since El Dinero Gigante signed with the Angels my neck has been hurting also. My doctor prescribed a 12 pack of Bud and a Missouri Tiger basketball game. He guaranteed my neck would feel better until tomorrow morning.

  13. spudchukar - Mar 9, 2012 at 8:55 PM

    Best case scenario: Carpenter sidelined until June but recovers nicely, in his place Oswalt is secured by St. Louis, his back presents no problems and the Cards role to another MLB title.

  14. watchfullhose - Mar 9, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    Waaaahhhhh…..these baseballs are slippery…..waaaaaahhhhh my neck.

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