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Roy Halladay topped out at 89 m.p.h. yesterday

Mar 15, 2012, 8:57 AM EDT

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Matthew had a post about Roy Halladay’s spring training struggles yesterday. The general notion is, well, yeah, Halladay hasn’t been himself. But hey, it’s spring and while this is worth watching, it’s probably too early to freak out.

But Ken Rosenthal said something last night that maybe there something to be concerned about: Halladay’s velocity against the Twins yesterday topped out at 89 m.p.h.

That’s not the Doc we know. Some people suggested that Halladay may have some arm trouble, but Halladay vehemently denied that yesterday.  Whatever the case, it’s definitely worth watching.

  1. stex52 - Mar 15, 2012 at 9:01 AM

    I wasn’t too worried after the first thread. But 89 mph is not so good. We’ll see where it goes from here.

    • mox19380 - Mar 15, 2012 at 10:24 AM

      I’ll give him the benefit of a doubt that he’s not letting it all hang loose yet. It’s spring so there is no sense in wratcheting it up and tiring his arm. Additionally he only throws about 91-92 (93 if he really turns it up)… like you said, “we’ll see”, but i’m not very concerned yet

  2. paperlions - Mar 15, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Roy Halladay does not believe in MPH.

  3. joejaws75 - Mar 15, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    Boring beat writers like Heyman and bow tie guy need something to write about doc is fine

  4. CJ - Mar 15, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    Didn’t Halladay say he was only working on his changeup yesterday?

    If he wasn’t throwing heat, then it’s a non-story.

    • surefooted1 - Mar 15, 2012 at 10:47 AM

      Just because he was working on it doesn’t mean that he threw them 100%.

      Had he done that, he’d been hit even harder. The changeup works when offset by a fastball.

  5. randygnyc - Mar 15, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    Joejaws, can you cite your references, post links to your inside info that “Roy is fine”. I don’t think you can.

    Now to the facts. Velocity is down. No feel for his pitches. His trademark, pinpoint control, erratic. 5 homers in 7 innings.

    Halliday wasn’t just working on “spring training” tweaks yesterday. He through 70 pitches in his 2+ innings before getting the hook.

  6. phillyphreak - Mar 15, 2012 at 9:33 AM

    Bill Baer had a nice little post over at Crashburn Alley about why not to overreact to the spring training story lines, specifically Halladay. Interestingly, Halladay doesn’t really come out like “gangbusters” every spring like Rosenthal writes. We shall see..

  7. cleverbob - Mar 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM

    Doesn’t he normally top out around 91, 92 max? My panties remain un-bunched.

    • surefooted1 - Mar 15, 2012 at 10:52 AM

      He normally averages ~91. He can hit 94 occasionally. A max of 89 may be just an anomaly, but it means that he will be under even more scrutiny next outing.

      Here is a velocity graph from the 8/30/11 game vs. Cin.

      http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/speed.php-pitchSel=136880&game=gid_2011_08_30_phimlb_cinmlb_1&batterX=&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=.gif

  8. sportsdrenched.com - Mar 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM

    I was going to chalk it up to spring training too, but 70 pitches in 2 IP is not “working on something”. Could be a bad day, everyone has them. But you don’t want bad days to turn into trends.

  9. skids003 - Mar 15, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    I wonder if that snake in the Amazon bit his arm?

    • deathmonkey41 - Mar 15, 2012 at 10:07 AM

      I’m wondering if Phil Hughes bit his arm…

  10. uyf1950 - Mar 15, 2012 at 9:49 AM

    Before everyone starts jumping to conclusions why do we all wait until at least his next outing. By then it should be time and everyone will have an idea if this is an issue or not. With Halladay’s track record I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. A 3, 4 days wait until his next spring training start will tell everyone a whole lot more.

    • uyf1950 - Mar 15, 2012 at 11:16 AM

      edit feature: …don’t we all wait until…

    • jimbo1949 - Mar 15, 2012 at 3:55 PM

      What fun would that be? Jumping to conclusions is our actual national pastime.

  11. sdelmonte - Mar 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    If this were happening at Steinbrenner Field to CC, you know there would be panic. The press might even stop dissing A-Rod for a day to cover it.

    • deathmonkey41 - Mar 15, 2012 at 11:13 AM

      They did that last year with Phil Hughes- who went on to get lit up all season long when he wasn’t on the DL.

  12. Ben - Mar 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    So, what did you guys have for breakfast?

    • El Bravo - Mar 15, 2012 at 12:29 PM

      Nothing. I’m starving and some jerk is eating an early lunch next to my office sending the smells my way. That asshole. You?

    • foreverchipper10 - Mar 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

      Went to Dunkin Donuts and had a Big N Toasy, small hash browns and orange juice. It was a glorious morning.

      • foreverchipper10 - Mar 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

        Damn it. Toasty.

  13. El Bravo - Mar 15, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Maybe his bicept is tired.

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