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	<title>Comments on: Fresh off contract extension, Dustin McGowan to begin season on disabled list</title>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep. Signing Mathis has to be the biggest question mark move AA has made since he got the GM job, and that&#039;s &lt;i&gt;with&lt;/i&gt; the Rasmus trade factored in. I can&#039;t help but think that this is some sort of Anti-Scioscia thinking behind it. Remember when Costanza decided to do the opposite in that Seinfeld episode? Ignore his first instinct and so on? I wonder if AA is doing something like that with Scioscia? If Scioscia thinks the player, especially if its a catcher, sucks, then he might be really good. If the catcher underperforms for Scioscia, then he&#039;ll be a stud elsewhere. 
McGowan, on the other hand, is really quite straightforward: plantar fasciitis is a minor detail, like a hangnail or a small cut. Not that big a deal. Treat with tincture of time, over the counter meds, and some trivial changes. McGowan throws in the mid-90&#039;s and has a nice array of breaking pitches, too. He has every chance of being a stud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. Signing Mathis has to be the biggest question mark move AA has made since he got the GM job, and that&#8217;s <i>with</i> the Rasmus trade factored in. I can&#8217;t help but think that this is some sort of Anti-Scioscia thinking behind it. Remember when Costanza decided to do the opposite in that Seinfeld episode? Ignore his first instinct and so on? I wonder if AA is doing something like that with Scioscia? If Scioscia thinks the player, especially if its a catcher, sucks, then he might be really good. If the catcher underperforms for Scioscia, then he&#8217;ll be a stud elsewhere.<br />
McGowan, on the other hand, is really quite straightforward: plantar fasciitis is a minor detail, like a hangnail or a small cut. Not that big a deal. Treat with tincture of time, over the counter meds, and some trivial changes. McGowan throws in the mid-90&#8242;s and has a nice array of breaking pitches, too. He has every chance of being a stud.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 16:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He actually got the injury before the contract extension.

While I don&#039;t like the extension, he basically needs to pitch 40-50 innings a year to justify it. Which for him might be difficult, but in reality it&#039;s not a crazy idea. If McGowan is servicable, and that&#039;s how low the bar is set, the Jays come out ahead. It&#039;s not that hard to produce $1.5M in value. If he breaks out, which isn&#039;t impossible (but not the likely outcome, either), the Jays end up with a fairly big bargain. Considering he&#039;s a free agent and all. Coming off a good year I think we can all admit he&#039;d make more than $1.5M given his history.

Honestly, I have a bigger issue with the Jays giving up an actual asset for Jeff Mathis, and then guaranteeing him a bench spot while paying him more than $1M. Guaranteeing $1.5M to McGowan is an intriuging risk, but at least he has some upside. Unlike Mathis, who&#039;s signed because he&#039;s a veteran defensive catcher. Which makes it ok to overlook the fact he&#039;s one of the 10 worst hitting position players since the 1950&#039;s.

I&#039;d be amazed if he throws 150-200 innings over the 2 year period, but like I said, to earn back the $1.5M in value he basically needs to throw 40-50 innings. And they could be 5 FIP innings and he&#039;d probably still earn his value. We&#039;re talking about him needing to be worth what, 0.3 WAR to earn $1.5M in value?

I didn&#039;t like the contract when I first heard about it, and still don&#039;t. But when you realize he needs 0.3 WAR to break even, it&#039;s not exactly a head scratcher. The Jays (right or wrong) believe in his upside. If nothing else, it&#039;s creative. Or crazy. I don&#039;t know. But it&#039;s not really that difficult to figure out why they did it. It&#039;s fairly straight forward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He actually got the injury before the contract extension.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t like the extension, he basically needs to pitch 40-50 innings a year to justify it. Which for him might be difficult, but in reality it&#8217;s not a crazy idea. If McGowan is servicable, and that&#8217;s how low the bar is set, the Jays come out ahead. It&#8217;s not that hard to produce $1.5M in value. If he breaks out, which isn&#8217;t impossible (but not the likely outcome, either), the Jays end up with a fairly big bargain. Considering he&#8217;s a free agent and all. Coming off a good year I think we can all admit he&#8217;d make more than $1.5M given his history.</p>
<p>Honestly, I have a bigger issue with the Jays giving up an actual asset for Jeff Mathis, and then guaranteeing him a bench spot while paying him more than $1M. Guaranteeing $1.5M to McGowan is an intriuging risk, but at least he has some upside. Unlike Mathis, who&#8217;s signed because he&#8217;s a veteran defensive catcher. Which makes it ok to overlook the fact he&#8217;s one of the 10 worst hitting position players since the 1950&#8242;s.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be amazed if he throws 150-200 innings over the 2 year period, but like I said, to earn back the $1.5M in value he basically needs to throw 40-50 innings. And they could be 5 FIP innings and he&#8217;d probably still earn his value. We&#8217;re talking about him needing to be worth what, 0.3 WAR to earn $1.5M in value?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t like the contract when I first heard about it, and still don&#8217;t. But when you realize he needs 0.3 WAR to break even, it&#8217;s not exactly a head scratcher. The Jays (right or wrong) believe in his upside. If nothing else, it&#8217;s creative. Or crazy. I don&#8217;t know. But it&#8217;s not really that difficult to figure out why they did it. It&#8217;s fairly straight forward.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys only just getting this story? Wowie. Old news. He&#039;s been gimping around with this for about a week now. Its in his landing foot and, while it can linger, isn&#039;t the end of the world. He&#039;s a pitcher, not an outfielder, so the fix can be quite simple. Stop with the obsessive jogging, get better arch support, stretch the Achilles tendon better, and take anti-inflammatory meds. Plantar fasciitis is among the most common foot complaint on the planet after warts, so its not like his foot&#039;s falling off or something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys only just getting this story? Wowie. Old news. He&#8217;s been gimping around with this for about a week now. Its in his landing foot and, while it can linger, isn&#8217;t the end of the world. He&#8217;s a pitcher, not an outfielder, so the fix can be quite simple. Stop with the obsessive jogging, get better arch support, stretch the Achilles tendon better, and take anti-inflammatory meds. Plantar fasciitis is among the most common foot complaint on the planet after warts, so its not like his foot&#8217;s falling off or something.</p>
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