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	<title>Comments on: Can Magic Johnson play third base?</title>
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		<title>By: koufaxmitzvah</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-278807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koufaxmitzvah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appreciate your thoughtful comments about my posting. I don&#039;t do this as a job; I do this while I&#039;m on a job. I&#039;ll admit to shooting from the hip. Considering your comments, I can see it as a weakness. I shall keep your post in mind when in the future trying to make a factual point.

I&#039;ll conclude that my intention wasn&#039;t to attack singingfriar so much as it was to attack DePo. The trade deadline deals in 2004 sucked and. in my opinion, gave the Red Sox their World Series for cheap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your thoughtful comments about my posting. I don&#8217;t do this as a job; I do this while I&#8217;m on a job. I&#8217;ll admit to shooting from the hip. Considering your comments, I can see it as a weakness. I shall keep your post in mind when in the future trying to make a factual point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll conclude that my intention wasn&#8217;t to attack singingfriar so much as it was to attack DePo. The trade deadline deals in 2004 sucked and. in my opinion, gave the Red Sox their World Series for cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: davidpom50</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-278568</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davidpom50]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, the intention of your post does not excuse completely wrong information. Google is your friend, double check before ripping in to people. 

Second, Depo had only 2 drafts to work with. In 2004, he selected current closer Javy Guerra, current bullpen lefty Scott Elbert, former reliever Cory Wade (who was the top setup man during the 2008 NLCS run), and a high school pitcher who picked college over the pros by the name of David Price. Not really a bad draft at all, and definitely helped both previous playoff teams and the current team.  He missed with his first pick of 2005, selecting and failing to sign Luke Hochevar. Last year&#039;s organizational player of the year, Scott Van Slyke, was selected in that draft. So was Trayvon Robinson, whom Ned stupidly wasted last season right when Trayvon was becoming a pretty solid prospect. Also, not a bad draft.

Now, I don&#039;t entirely agree with singingfriar. Colletti is coasting on the strength of two NLCS teams mostly built by DePo AND Evans. Evans (and really, if we&#039;re being honest, Logan White) did most of the drafting (Kemp, Loney, Martin, Billingsley, Broxton, etc)  while DePo did much of the signing free agents and trading (Jeff Kent, Brad Penny, Derek Lowe) that got those teams to the post season. However, Colletti added important pieces including Furcal, Manny, Blake (though he gave up too much to get him), and Ethier. Colletti has been a frustrating combination of brilliant moves, moves to get the right players but for the wrong prices, and just flat out dumb moves (like giving $56 million to a pitcher with a bum shoulder). 

Koufax, my problem wasn&#039;t at all your sentiment. It&#039;s that you cited completely incorrect information to try to prove your point. That serves no purpose whatsoever. I rarely comment here, but I read often, and you&#039;re a sharp guy who I know is capable of being more accurate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, the intention of your post does not excuse completely wrong information. Google is your friend, double check before ripping in to people. </p>
<p>Second, Depo had only 2 drafts to work with. In 2004, he selected current closer Javy Guerra, current bullpen lefty Scott Elbert, former reliever Cory Wade (who was the top setup man during the 2008 NLCS run), and a high school pitcher who picked college over the pros by the name of David Price. Not really a bad draft at all, and definitely helped both previous playoff teams and the current team.  He missed with his first pick of 2005, selecting and failing to sign Luke Hochevar. Last year&#8217;s organizational player of the year, Scott Van Slyke, was selected in that draft. So was Trayvon Robinson, whom Ned stupidly wasted last season right when Trayvon was becoming a pretty solid prospect. Also, not a bad draft.</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t entirely agree with singingfriar. Colletti is coasting on the strength of two NLCS teams mostly built by DePo AND Evans. Evans (and really, if we&#8217;re being honest, Logan White) did most of the drafting (Kemp, Loney, Martin, Billingsley, Broxton, etc)  while DePo did much of the signing free agents and trading (Jeff Kent, Brad Penny, Derek Lowe) that got those teams to the post season. However, Colletti added important pieces including Furcal, Manny, Blake (though he gave up too much to get him), and Ethier. Colletti has been a frustrating combination of brilliant moves, moves to get the right players but for the wrong prices, and just flat out dumb moves (like giving $56 million to a pitcher with a bum shoulder). </p>
<p>Koufax, my problem wasn&#8217;t at all your sentiment. It&#8217;s that you cited completely incorrect information to try to prove your point. That serves no purpose whatsoever. I rarely comment here, but I read often, and you&#8217;re a sharp guy who I know is capable of being more accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: koufaxmitzvah</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-278013</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koufaxmitzvah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really, dude? Can you name the players drafted by DePo that OP and 8 others claim Colleti has been coasting with?

That was my point. Sure, I&#039;ll admit I was wrong in terms of when Kershaw was drafted and who picked him. And I&#039;ll gladly give credit to Ned for the trade of Andre. The point of my point was that DePo was far from the genius that created the Dodgers team which old Ned &quot;coasted&quot; to victories.

May I suggest you be honest with the intent of the post? Nevermind how 10 people think that DePo was constructed some winning Dodgers team which made Ned&#039;s life so much easier.

*Sigh* 

Right? Is that how you do it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, dude? Can you name the players drafted by DePo that OP and 8 others claim Colleti has been coasting with?</p>
<p>That was my point. Sure, I&#8217;ll admit I was wrong in terms of when Kershaw was drafted and who picked him. And I&#8217;ll gladly give credit to Ned for the trade of Andre. The point of my point was that DePo was far from the genius that created the Dodgers team which old Ned &#8220;coasted&#8221; to victories.</p>
<p>May I suggest you be honest with the intent of the post? Nevermind how 10 people think that DePo was constructed some winning Dodgers team which made Ned&#8217;s life so much easier.</p>
<p>*Sigh* </p>
<p>Right? Is that how you do it?</p>
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		<title>By: davidpom50</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277993</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davidpom50]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sigh... Koufax, so much wrong information in one post. 
GM Timeline:
Dan Evans: 2001 - 2/2004
Paul DePodesta: 2/2004 - 10/2005
Ned Colletti: 11/2005 - present

Dates of Events you mentioned:
Kemp Draft: June 5th, 2003 (Evans)
Kershaw Draft: June 6th, 2006 (Colletti)
Bradley/Ethier Trade: Dec 13, 2005 (Colletti)
Beltre/Valentin Trade: I wrote a whole long thing about this, then saw you addressed it below.

2 for 4 ain&#039;t bad as a batting average, but it&#039;s awful when disseminating information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh&#8230; Koufax, so much wrong information in one post.<br />
GM Timeline:<br />
Dan Evans: 2001 &#8211; 2/2004<br />
Paul DePodesta: 2/2004 &#8211; 10/2005<br />
Ned Colletti: 11/2005 &#8211; present</p>
<p>Dates of Events you mentioned:<br />
Kemp Draft: June 5th, 2003 (Evans)<br />
Kershaw Draft: June 6th, 2006 (Colletti)<br />
Bradley/Ethier Trade: Dec 13, 2005 (Colletti)<br />
Beltre/Valentin Trade: I wrote a whole long thing about this, then saw you addressed it below.</p>
<p>2 for 4 ain&#8217;t bad as a batting average, but it&#8217;s awful when disseminating information.</p>
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		<title>By: beisboljunkie</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beisboljunkie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ned Colletti is a &quot;maroon&quot;... Is that French?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ned Colletti is a &#8220;maroon&#8221;&#8230; Is that French?</p>
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		<title>By: beisboljunkie</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277698</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beisboljunkie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This headline was pretty awesome. If the Dodgers end dumping Uribe&#039;s salary, he will need to get in line behind Andruw Jones &amp; Manny Ramirez. They still have 2 more years of getting paid. However, good news! Juan Pierre&#039;s deferred salary is finally off the books and paid in full.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This headline was pretty awesome. If the Dodgers end dumping Uribe&#8217;s salary, he will need to get in line behind Andruw Jones &amp; Manny Ramirez. They still have 2 more years of getting paid. However, good news! Juan Pierre&#8217;s deferred salary is finally off the books and paid in full.</p>
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		<title>By: wj4122</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wj4122]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really hope Stan looks at Ned and gets rid of him knowing that ned is a fool with free agent signings and is probably not the person He would want to trust a bunch of new money to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope Stan looks at Ned and gets rid of him knowing that ned is a fool with free agent signings and is probably not the person He would want to trust a bunch of new money to.</p>
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		<title>By: koufaxmitzvah</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koufaxmitzvah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He left as a free agent after the Dodgers didn&#039;t offer him anything.

Check that. He rejected the Detroit Tigers deal because the Dodgers didn&#039;t offer him anything. And then he got the Seattle offer to upon which the Dodgers finally offered him something that was less than his offer.

Read between the lines and you will see a dickish owner not wanting to spend the money on his 3rd baseman who was going through his first free agency after having an MVP caliber year.

Depo&#039;s got us Jose Valentin, who never played 3rd. He then &quot;lost the ball in the chalk&quot; on opening day against the Giants, and the Dodgers proceeded to go through another 15 3rd basemen before trading Carlos Santana (another Dan Evans draftee) to the Indians for Casey Blake.

Bottom line? McCourt = Dick. Depo = Dipstick. Dodgers = Screwed.

And that is one reason why I despise the Frank McCourt years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He left as a free agent after the Dodgers didn&#8217;t offer him anything.</p>
<p>Check that. He rejected the Detroit Tigers deal because the Dodgers didn&#8217;t offer him anything. And then he got the Seattle offer to upon which the Dodgers finally offered him something that was less than his offer.</p>
<p>Read between the lines and you will see a dickish owner not wanting to spend the money on his 3rd baseman who was going through his first free agency after having an MVP caliber year.</p>
<p>Depo&#8217;s got us Jose Valentin, who never played 3rd. He then &#8220;lost the ball in the chalk&#8221; on opening day against the Giants, and the Dodgers proceeded to go through another 15 3rd basemen before trading Carlos Santana (another Dan Evans draftee) to the Indians for Casey Blake.</p>
<p>Bottom line? McCourt = Dick. Depo = Dipstick. Dodgers = Screwed.</p>
<p>And that is one reason why I despise the Frank McCourt years.</p>
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		<title>By: ptfu</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277596</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ptfu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Magic at 3B would have big soft hands, catch everything that comes to him, and lead the league in assists.  Magic wouldn&#039;t do much at the plate, although he&#039;d have his share of steals, and make everyone around him that much better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magic at 3B would have big soft hands, catch everything that comes to him, and lead the league in assists.  Magic wouldn&#8217;t do much at the plate, although he&#8217;d have his share of steals, and make everyone around him that much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought Beltre left as a FA?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Beltre left as a FA?</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277569</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure Magic can play third as well as Cabrera can, though I would expect his strikeout rate to be around 99% (he can bunt to third for a few hits when they play the Tigers in interleague).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Magic can play third as well as Cabrera can, though I would expect his strikeout rate to be around 99% (he can bunt to third for a few hits when they play the Tigers in interleague).</p>
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		<title>By: AlohaMrHand</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AlohaMrHand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what the hell?Whys everyone bashing Uribe?Just because he trained in the offseason at Taco Bell.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the hell?Whys everyone bashing Uribe?Just because he trained in the offseason at Taco Bell&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: koufaxmitzvah</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277553</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[koufaxmitzvah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not quite, as Depo (and FMC) coasted on the strength of the farm system developed in large part by Dan Evans, the man who was in charge when drafting Matt Kemp, Clayton Kershaw, etc. Depo did trade Milton Bradley for Andre Ethier, but he also traded the services of Adrian Beltre for the likes of Jose &quot;I lost the ball in the chalk&quot; Valentin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite, as Depo (and FMC) coasted on the strength of the farm system developed in large part by Dan Evans, the man who was in charge when drafting Matt Kemp, Clayton Kershaw, etc. Depo did trade Milton Bradley for Andre Ethier, but he also traded the services of Adrian Beltre for the likes of Jose &#8220;I lost the ball in the chalk&#8221; Valentin.</p>
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		<title>By: singingfriar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[singingfriar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 04:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coletti is still coasting on the strength of Paul DePodesta&#039;s drafting as GM of the Dodgers. The free agent contracts Coletti has given out (Juan Pierre, Andruw Jones, Jason Schmidt, etc.) should have gotten him fired long ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coletti is still coasting on the strength of Paul DePodesta&#8217;s drafting as GM of the Dodgers. The free agent contracts Coletti has given out (Juan Pierre, Andruw Jones, Jason Schmidt, etc.) should have gotten him fired long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo1949</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimbo1949]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 04:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Did you mean &quot;Ned Colletti and genius should never be used in the same sentence?&quot;
2. If so, why did you do it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Did you mean &#8220;Ned Colletti and genius should never be used in the same sentence?&#8221;<br />
2. If so, why did you do it?</p>
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		<title>By: wj4122</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/can-magic-johnson-play-third-base/comment-page-1/#comment-277528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wj4122]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 04:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately this is what Ned does when going into the offseason if he has a player or two who underperformed he is content with saying &quot;if they play the way they should we will be in good shape&quot;....yeah that works out. Give me a break Ned see the warning signs and do something about it. The situation and terrible signing of Juan is not an isolated incident he has done this several times before. Andrew jones, Jason Schmidt just to name a few]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately this is what Ned does when going into the offseason if he has a player or two who underperformed he is content with saying &#8220;if they play the way they should we will be in good shape&#8221;&#8230;.yeah that works out. Give me a break Ned see the warning signs and do something about it. The situation and terrible signing of Juan is not an isolated incident he has done this several times before. Andrew jones, Jason Schmidt just to name a few</p>
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		<title>By: sasquash20</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sasquash20]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Magic can do anything. Play center in the finals and dominate, beat AIDS, and I&#039;m sure play 3rd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magic can do anything. Play center in the finals and dominate, beat AIDS, and I&#8217;m sure play 3rd.</p>
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		<title>By: Baseball Beer Burritos In That Order</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baseball Beer Burritos In That Order]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the definition of an unfortunate headline. Yikes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the definition of an unfortunate headline. Yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: hep3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hep3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ned Colletti and genius should never be used in the sentence.  Ned is a maroon.  Luckily the new Dodger owners can afford the $14 million that Juan Uribe is still owed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ned Colletti and genius should never be used in the sentence.  Ned is a maroon.  Luckily the new Dodger owners can afford the $14 million that Juan Uribe is still owed.</p>
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