Skip to content

Miami-Dade mayor: “The freedom-loving people” of Miami want Ozzie Guillen fired

Apr 10, 2012, 7:07 AM EDT

Ozzie Guillen Getty Getty Images

L’affair Ozzie is continuing apace. We’ve had the comment, the outrage, the apology, the media hand-wringing, and now the political opportunism.

In the run-up to Ozzie Guillen’s second apology over his Castro comment, Carlos Giminez, the Mayor of Miami-Dade County, calls for his termination. Because apparently there is nothing more satisfying to “freedom-loving people” than to fire a person for voicing a weak, unpopular political opinion:

“I join the rest of our Miami-Dade County community and all freedom-loving people in condemning the statement made by Miami Marlins Manager Ozzie Guillen,” Gimenez said in a 5 p.m. statement. “For too long, the Marlins organization has been the source of controversies in our community and I now challenge them to take decisive steps to bring this community back together.”

“Bring this community back together?”  Call me crazy, but I have this feeling that a community that is strong enough to have escaped Castro and build what it has built in Miami is not capable of being destroyed by an isolated incident of one loudmouth saying something ill-considered to a magazine reporter.

Anyway, Gimenez didn’t say what those “decisive steps” were, but it’s pretty clear that he wants Guillen fired. Which, as I said yesterday, seems preposterous to me. At least if you treat this as merely a matter of Ozzie Guillen spouting off.

But maybe it’s not just about Ozzie spouting off to Miami politicians. That comment about the Marlins being “the source of controversies”  is loaded with meaning, likely being a reference to the funding of the new ballpark, which is now the subject of a federal investigation. That messiness led directly to Mr. Giminez getting his job, when his predecessor was recalled due to his involvement in alleged shadiness. Moreover, the matter of who supported public money for the Marlins became an issue in the subsequent election to replace the old mayor, with Giminez being an anti-stadium dollars guy.

Which, hey, good for him because that’s admirable. But it also suggests that being tough on the Marlins is part of Gimenez’s recent political DNA too.  Which suggests that Guillen is being seized on, not only because he said something that people in Miami don’t like, but because it’s politically expedient for some folks to make the Marlins into the boogeyman.

So, the theater continues. The allegedly shocking comment, the outrage, the first apology, the media hand-wringing, the second apology and now the political opportunism. All that’s left are the lawsuits, right? That’s how this sort of thing tends to go, isn’t it?

  1. redguy12588 - Apr 10, 2012 at 7:34 AM

    Miami, I liked you better when you didn’t pretend to care about baseball.

  2. alexo0 - Apr 10, 2012 at 7:49 AM

    Credit to the producers of “The Franchise”. They have written one hell of a script so far.

    • Gordon - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:45 AM

      When the Franchise came to the White Sox a few seasons ago, all of the sudden Ozzie gets a Twitter account, Kenny & Ozzy start fighting, Oney & Ozzy Jr. start expressing opinions.

    • Gordon - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:49 AM

      **Correction “Ozzie”**

  3. js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 7:54 AM

    Can you really be freedom loving if you get this pissed off about one fairly benign statement? I truly believe that there are large segments of people out there whose only passion in life is waiting for statements from public figures, no matter how uncontroversial, and turning them into major controversies. It’s some kind of race from all of the major special interest groups to see who can be the most morally outraged by a simple statement. Fucking losers.

    • autmorsautlibertas - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM

      The statement is only benign if you are not an exiled and dispossessed Cuban. If you were forced to leave your country, your family, your possessions, your home, your friends, and go to another country where you did not speak the language, and had little or no money, you might be able to empathize with the Cuban-Americans. Ozzie is the Manager of a baseball team and should stick to baseball. Ozzie stuck his beak into a political controversy that is really none of his business. I think he said what he said in an effort to suck up to his pal, the anti-American Hugo Chavez, Castro’s bosom buddy. No one contests Ozzie’s right to free speech, but the same constitutional principles that protect his right to make those statements, protects the freedom of expression of the general public to disagree with what he says. It was reasonably foreseeable that such a statement would anger the Cuban-American community. If Ozzie is incapable of anticipating the reaction of the public to his controversial utterances, perhaps he is too stupid to manage at the big league level. On the other hand, if he knew that his statements would anger the Marlin’s Cuban-American fans, and said it regardless, then the fan base would be properly outraged.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:36 AM

        “The statement is only benign if you are not an exiled and dispossessed Cuban.”

        The statement was one line in an interview that can not possibly stand alone without context in your condemnation of its meaning.

      • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:44 AM

        What Ozzie said was absolutely benign. All he basically said was that he has respect for a man that has managed to survive all these years despite large numbers of people wanting to kill him. He didn’t praise the virtues of Castro. Whether anyone agrees or disagrees I don’t really care. I just don’t understand the response here. Ozzie isn’t an elected official who has the power to effect real change. He’s simply a baseball manager. I’m not Cuban nor do I live in South Florida, but I have to believe that there are real issues out there that actually affect the Cuban community. And this is the fight that you guys pick? Are you fucking kidding me? This is the equivalent of Republican politicians ignoring the real issues to take on gay marriage and porn.

      • Kevin S. - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:03 AM

        Ozzie and Chavez are most certainly not pals.

    • dan1111 - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:07 AM

      “I love Castro” is not a benign statement, nor can it be easily explained away with an appeal to context. While I think that firing him would be over the top, this does matter and deserves a response. If only the world had more “losers” who cared about the plight of the suffering.

      • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:18 AM

        I think you need to read his statement again. He says nothing more about Castro than his respect for Castro’s ability to survive. When you take that in context with his “I love Castro” remark, I think it’s pretty reasonable to believe that “love” in this context is more in line with “respect.” He didn’t say “I love Castro for being a brutal dictator.”

      • thraiderskin - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:21 AM

        yeah… that is a completely definitive statement. I believe he should be able to apologize, but to the Cuban-American’s in Miami, he went way to far. I seriously can not think of a more poor statement to make for a particular area of this country.

      • dan1111 - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:43 AM

        I am not convinced. Expressing any admiration of the guy at all seems highly suspect to me. If you want to make a nonpolitical statement about toughness, then why pick him rather than, say, Chuck Norris? Furthermore, Guillen said that he respected him for surviving and holding on to power for 60 years in the face of opposition. In other words, for being a successful dictator.

        Again, I don’t think some dumb, offhand comments merit his firing. But neither do I see how these comments can be easily explained away.

      • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:04 AM

        Dan

        Why does Guillen necessarily need to explain his statement? This isn’t a case of the President or some other political figure saying “you know the one thing Hitler got right? The extermination of the Jews.” It was largely innocuous statement made by a baseball manager. Why can’t people either say they disagree with him, or simply ignore him? Why is it ok for Cubans to ask for his head on a stick but Guillen offering respect for Castro’s ability to survive is going way over the line?

    • dan1111 - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM

      Also, the right to free speech does not mean speech without consequences. Guillen has the right to say what he wants. However, the Marlins also have the right to fire him if they want to. What an employee says, even on his own time, is fair game when it comes to firing. Part of his job is being the face of the organization. What if he said “I hate the Marlins, this team is a piece of crap.” without a doubt he would be fired. This happened recently–to one of the Pirates employees who got paid to dress up as a pierogie.

      This is not about free speech but about the appropriate action to take in response to what he said.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Apr 10, 2012 at 12:26 PM

        A logical consequence of free speech used by a baseball manager is not to fire the baseball manager because a vocal minority wants him gone. A logical consequence is to conduct a boycott of the enterprise, if you so desire, but to demand that the man, who has apologized profusely, lose his livelihood over one line of an entire interview reeks of ignorance.

        Sorry, Dan. Lest you believe that your postings here should be shown to your boss with demands that you be demoted for wasting company time and whatnot. Anonymous folks sure do like to shout.

  4. paperlions - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:04 AM

    I have a feeling that Giminez is only an “anti-stadium dollars” guy because it was his predecessor that did it…..and that if he had been in control before, he likely would have done something similar to get a stadium built…..though, perhaps, less shady….being as it would still involve bribes, politics, and spending other people’s money while lying to them about it, like all publicly funded stadium deals, it couldn’t be shade free.

  5. Jonny 5 - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:11 AM

    “I join the rest of our Miami-Dade County community and all freedom-loving people in condemning the statement made by Miami Marlins Manager Ozzie Guillen,”

    Excuse me, Mr.Giminez. Yes, that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Freedom loving people feel that other people should be able to voice their opinions even if they are unpopular. With that said Ozzie is a dumbass for not thinking this would cause a stir within all the “freedom lovers”

    • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:16 AM

      The people Giminez is talking about believe solely in your freedom to believe what they do. It’s just a small matter of semantics. You get used to it here in Macondo – or if, for example, you’re a Republican.

      • hasbeen5 - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:04 AM

        C’mon man, you can’t act like that only happens on the right.

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM

        No? When was the last time you heard a Democratic politician tell someone who disagreed with them to go to Russia?

      • hasbeen5 - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:30 AM

        You’re really making the argument that Democrats don’t ridicule those that do not share their beliefs? Are you still on that trip to 1968 we were talking about the other day?

        I readily admit that Republicans are pretty hypocritical about this kind of stuff.
        But it goes both ways. To deny that is either naive or intellectually dishonest.

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:20 AM

        Must have been all that smoke I inhaled in Grant Park last week. But I’d much rather be thought dishonest than naive, so I’ll go with the former.

        Look, of course I know that Democrats can be just as big a bunch of nincompoops as Republicans, just not nearly as given over to mindless jingoism and definitely not as well organized. Give me the Democratic equivalent of a Michelle Bachmann or a Sarah Palin or, Buddha be merciful, Christine O’Donnell when it comes to declaring opponents’ values or economic policy “unpatriotic” or “socialist” (by which they really mean “communist,” knowing their core constituencies aren’t nearly bright enough to tell the difference anyway). There’s a big difference between ridicule and ostracism.

        On the other hand, when it comes to being a bunch of whores for their big corporate pimps, there’s no doubt that it’s a dead heat. Just a few minor variations in who the pimps are.

      • thraiderskin - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:32 AM

        Hey Gator, not that this will ever get through to you, but wasn’t it only a few year ago that several Democrat law-makers attempted to pass a law to regulate conservative talk radio because it was so detrimental to the leftist agenda? Isn’t also liberal organizations, who want the KKK or other whitepower groups to be banned from public speaking, because of their “hate speech?” Wasn’t it Barrak Obama who called and apologized to a woman for the hurtful words said by Rush Limbaugh, when he called her a whore, yet did nothing about what Bill Maher said (on many more occasions and said far worse) about Bristol Palin? Chew on that genius, if you need more, I have it for you…

      • cur68 - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:39 AM

        Gator my friend, I’m not sure what goes on South Of The Border from me sometimes (due in large part to my ear drums being frozen solid), but all this “Fire Ozzy” crap is beyond stupid. I thought your country believed in freedom of speech? Persecution for political belief, sexual preference, or religious leanings was against your laws, wasn’t it? How is this not persecuting Guillen for some relatively mild comments about Castro’s longevity as a political leader? Sorry if this sounds like I’m making you account for your countries curious interpretation of some pretty straightforward laws, but I don’t know how you stand it there, and frankly, I just want to say, WTF /..\ ?

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2012 at 1:15 PM

        First of all, Obama made that call to a woman who had just given congressional testimony. Maher is a comedian criticizing a cultural cartoon. There is a difference between intervening in a matter of public policy and concern, and intervening in a private pissing match between two clowns. But that distinction is subtle and clearly eluded you.

        As far as this so-called anti-conservative talk show bill, how far did it get among the Democratic house members? How precisely was it worded, anyway – not that I would ever doubt your interpretation of it, of course. I grant you that this is an unfair question is some ways because it does take focus and discipline to move a bill through congress and we are discussing Democrats here. But you single out a couple of whack jobs, and I’m talking about behavior endemic to an entire party. Again, a subtle difference. Don’t hurt yourself thinking about it because tectonic activity is subsuming this thread under about three thousand others already.

      • thraiderskin - Apr 10, 2012 at 2:54 PM

        Its not that I don’t realize all the political flame-throwers out there, but plenty of Democrats pull the 1st amendment card when it jeopardizes their agenda, but say little when it is something they disagree with, take a look at how the ACLU works. Bill Maher is a comedian, but he is also a major political donor, who just gave 1 million dollars to Obama’s re-election. Rush Limbaugh might not be your traditional donor, but he is a political commentator who makes him money by making off-the wall comments for the “benefit” of conservatives. Yet a phone call was made to a young woman who was called a whore, by flame-thrower Limbaugh, but OUR President didn’t feel the need to call a young woman after she had been verbally assaulted by Bill Maher? While Maher may be a political comedian, the entirety of his show is not a comediac act and he generally goes after major political issues, including very serious ones. It is simply one of many double-standards that the Right gets hit with, but the left goes by unscathed, I wish I could implament the Bill of Rights only when it suits me.

    • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:26 AM

      I think that idea is lost on a lot of people. If you truly respect our freedoms, and are “freedom loving” I think that you allow others to speak their mind, even if you disagree with them. But what’s going on here is the exact opposite of “freedom loving.”

      • autmorsautlibertas - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:37 AM

        Once again JS20011041, no one has contested Ozzie’s right to free speech, but please respect the freedom of speech of his opponents to disagree vocally. You seem to imply that if you disagree with someone’s public speech, you should just shut up and swallow it.

      • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM

        You may very well be exercising your first amendment rights in this situation. The manner in which your people are doing it is really no less repugnant than the way that the Westboro Baptist Church chooses to do so. Now, I want to be clear that I’m not just singling out the Cuban community. This kind of thing goes on all the time with many different special interest groups. You are using your freedom of speech to supress the freedom of speech of others. If there are any other people that might possibly agree with what Ozzie said, do you honestly think that they would come out with it now after witnessing this response? I have no problem if the Cuban community wants to release some kind of statement saying something along the lines of “while we respect Ozzie Guillen’s right to free speeh, we condemn his insensitive statement.” But to actively try and destroy his career and “run him out of the state” is absolutely not in line with the values of a freedom loving people. And those were your fucking words. “run him out of the state.” Kind of like your people were exiled from Cuba?

      • Kevin S. - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:10 AM

        Calling for a guy to get fired because he appeared to make a comment praising a brutal dictator whom you had to flee from to save your life is no less repugnant than picketing the funerals of fallen soldiers and other high-profile people and screaming at their grieving relatives that their loved ones are dead because this country doesn’t execute gay people? Really?

      • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:41 AM

        Kevin

        Yes, calling for the ruination of a persons career over a single statement is absolutely repugnant. And that’s completely glossing over the fact that what Guillen actually said wasn’t nearly as inflammatory as it’s being made out to be. To turn what Guillen said into a controversy is to be actively searching for a reason to be offended. Why is it that people can’t simply disagree? Why is it that every single comment that may or may not be controversial has to end with someone being fired?

      • Kevin S. - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM

        I actually think that what Guillen said was fairly benign. Foolish, but benign. That doesn’t change the fact that the Cuban-American community getting up in arms against him isn’t nearly as repugnant as what WBC does. There’s orders of magnitude of difference there.

      • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:23 AM

        Kevin, you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. What the Westboro Baptist Church does causes some emotional harm to the families of the soldiers, but they can be ignored. In fact they are often placed far enough away from the funerals as to have almost no perceivable presence. What these people are doing has real, tangible effects. I do think that using a mob mentality where whoever is loudest and angriest gets to suppress the opinions of those that oppose them is disgusting. There are ways to voice your dissapproval without trying to destroy someone’s career.

      • autmorsautlibertas - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:45 AM

        JS- Where did you get the idea that I was a Cuban-American? I am a white mid-westerner who has protected other people’s freedom of speech in court. Also, although the term “special interests” has been given a negative meaning by the liberal press, “special interests” play an important role in our system of government. Special interests are formed when a group of citizens who have a common political ideas join together to make their opinions heard. The National Organization of Women, The National Rifle Association, AARP, and the various environmental groups would fit into this category. A group of Americans organizing around a common belief is completely consistent with liberty. If they choose to call for someone’s head, that is their right, just like it your right to oppose them.

      • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 12:06 PM

        autmorsautlibertas

        There is a vast difference between organizing for a cause being a part of a cause that uses its strength in numbers to suppress the voice of dissenters. I am a part of what would be considered a special interest group. I am a member of the IAFF firefighters union. What we do is fight for what is in our best interests. I fail to see how the destruction of Ozzie Guillen’s career does anything positive for the Cuban community. That is the difference between what you are arguing for and what I am arguing for. Just because you have the freedom to do something, that doesn’t make it right. I have the absolute freedom to stand on a street corner holding a sign that says “I hate niggers.” That doesn’t make it right. I’m not saying that the government has the authority to intervene and tell Cubans that they don’t have the right to protest. I’m simply saying the response to the comments that Ozzie Guillen made have been so completely far over the line that I can’t help but think that Cubans have done themselves more harm than good in this case.

    • kellyb9 - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:28 AM

      This seems to be a common misconception. Having the freedom to say whatever he likes has nothing to do with his employment. It just means he won’t be thrown in jail because of it. Sadly, most normal people would be fired for saying much less. Either way, its not like he’s in Toronto or Seattle, he should use his brain a bit more and pick his words a bit more carefully.

      • Jonny 5 - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:49 AM

        See I think you have YOUR wires crossed. I could proclaim my love for Castro right now in the middle of my office and not be fired. I’m sure most of you could. And I know for darned sure that elected officials wouldn’t be calling for me to be fired either. It is up to his employer 100% and an elected official needs to keep his nose out of it. He’s trying to influence an employer to enforce something our government prohibits themselves from doing. And he is “government” loosely.

      • autmorsautlibertas - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:48 AM

        Jonny 5- First, if you proclaim your love for Castro in the middle of your office you COULD be fired, and there is not a damned thing you could do about it. Freedom of speech only applies to public places, and you do not have a constitutionally protected right of free speech on private property. Second, Ozzie’s statements have a high likelihood of affecting the Marlin’s attendance dollars, and do not forget that baseball is a BUSINESS.

  6. Old Gator - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:12 AM

    Never thought I’d see Slobbering Ozzie surrounded by a bigger bunch of jackasses than he is. I always thought that opposites attracted.

    • paperlions - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:21 AM

      What’s the saying?

      Dios los cria y ellos se ajuntan?

      Yeah, that.

  7. frankvzappa - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM

    So, the “freedom-loving people” turn out to be nothing but whiny, worthless, big-government worshipping DBs who have no idea what freedom actually means. Imagine my surprise. The Germans thought they were free, too. The next step is realizing this type of nonsense has all been planned by evil people intent on dividing us against each other so they can destroy our country from the inside while sucking every last penny of wealth into their own coffers, all while we are distracted by BS like this and non-issues like gay marriage.

    • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:31 AM

      Listen here good sir. Everyone knows that what’s destroying this country is gay marriage and porn. The economy? That’s piddly shit. The war in Afghanistan? It’s a minor skirmish. No, we need to focus on values (makes prolonged jacking off motion).

      • Gamera the Brave - Apr 10, 2012 at 12:21 PM

        js,
        I was appreciating the sarcasm of your statement, when I came to the (I suspect) gratuitous addition of the word “prolonged”.
        That word graduated your comment from “pretty funny” to “all my co-workers are wondering why I am laughing my ass off right now”…

  8. dad95 - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:30 AM

    “If you build it,they will come”.Carlos Gimenez ,your county PAID for this stadium and you LOVED getting Ozzie.”Good for the hispanic community”.Now he uses his freedom of speech,like all American citizens have, and he is now persecuted.His statement is not politically correct and you have the right to boycott the Marlins and their “boca Grande”manager AND their brand new stadium that the taxpayers paid for(did I mention that already?)but he has that right.Dont take away his freedom,,,,of speech,however STUPIDO it is.

    • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:18 AM

      Giminez opposed public financing for the stadium and ran against the predecessor he helped unseat in the recall, Carlos Alvarez.

      However, Giminez is still an asshole. Life is never simple.

      • dad95 - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:03 AM

        Thank you Old Gator for the correction on the Mr Gimenez.Since I wrote that post,I see Ozzie is suspended for 5 games for his comments.Just a bandaid…..Gotta find a new favorite team now.

  9. Gordon - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:39 AM

    Reminds me of what Michael Scott said to Tobey on “The Office”:

    “This is a welcoming environment, so you can just get the hell out of here.”

  10. stex52 - Apr 10, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Oh, the conflict. I don’t like Ozzie. But now I have to stand up for him. Give the dumb guy a break, Miami! If you take away everyone’s right to say stupid things, we are all in trouble.

  11. prestonsc - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    just sayin’

  12. dexterismyhero - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Maybe Jeff Ireland could call Ozzie and explain this…….just sayin’

  13. Old Gator - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:52 AM

    Dateline: Macondo, 9:30 AM, April 10, 2012. Slobbering Ozzie is close by. I don’t know exactly where, but I can sense it. He is getting closer. The heavens fill with signs and portents.

    There’s no game today, so I’ve headed down to Macondo Banana Massacre Field in the heart of freedom loving Havana Pequena to “cover” the demonstration called by Virginity of Mombasa, or whatever that radical little splinter group of anti-Fidel commando wannabes is calling themselves, for Circling the Bases. The news trucks with those phallic things projecting from their roofs are starting to grab the best parking spots already, and the local correspondents are already out in front of the stadium getting their noses powdered. The guys too. The smell of blood is in the air and the sharks are perched on every light pole drying their lateral lines. The vultures are next in the pecking order and they seem to have gathered out of sight at the spawrts tawk raydeeo studios. .

    By the way, some church group whose name I didn’t catch this morning is also condemning remarks Ozzie made about conducting Santeria chicken sacrifices or some such thing. I hadn’t heard about that but I’m really sorry I missed it. Indeed, the heavens are filled with signs and portents. Just the other day a local folksinger, Eric King (of the duo Brothers King), who is a park ranger in his day job, mentioned that on his regular morning patrol in Greynolds Park he came across the previous night’s chicken sacrifice. The chicken was hanging by a string around its feet from a tree branch, head cut off. Directly below it the head was sitting on a pile of women’s underwear and bras, all splattered with chicken blood. Eric had to clean it up.

    Ozzie draws ever closer, like Gradus in Pale Fire. The heavens fill with signs and portents. Somewhere, close by, you can feel it in the air, another politician is climbing on his soapbox to express his solidarity with those same freedom-loving people everywhere and demand that Slobbering Ozzie be suspended by his feet from a tree branch over a pile of dirty jockstraps and decapitated.

    Spawrts tawk raydeeo is filling up with irate callers, but to be honest, some of the venom from yesterday is already lacking. As my little pal Friendo knows all too well, you can only bite the same mouse on the ass so many times before your glands implode (which is why I only feed him one every two weeks or so). Of course, last night each Ozzie commentary was sandbagged all around with male enhancement commercials, which seem to have fled to their crypts when the sun come up. Perhaps they feared testosterone positives. Who knows? Ah…some stuffed suit – rare in Macondo because of the heat and humidity – is saying that Ozzie must be fired because he has damaged the business he works for (ending his comment with a dangling preposition) and reaffirming his – and his company’s – solidarity with freedom loving people everywhere, especially his local Cuban customers.

    Every so often a spawrts tawk raydeeo host makes a feeble effort to discuss the forthcoming Florida Panthers playoff game. Hahahahahahahaha…..the next caller has an Ozzie comment and returns the hapless host to hard reality. No one wants to talk about the Panthers. Not on this first morning in ordinary time, when he’s barely risen yet chicken sacrifices proliferate anyway.

    Thus has it always been, thus shall it ever be here in Macondo. The heavens fill with signs and portents. Ozzie is getting closer. My cafe con leche is no longer too hot to drink. Well, that’s a positive, though not for testosterone. There is activity around one of the television news trucks. A few more cops have appeared. Ozzie impends. The heavens fill with signs and portents.

    I’m ready for anything.

  14. teedraper - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    I’m so tired of these Cubans! We gave you your own freaken city & you’re still not happy! Go back to Cuba already bc you’ve done nothing but bring down the value of the city of Miami.

    • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM

      Now wouldn’t that be a counterproductive thing to do, considering that they own most of it?

  15. kiwicricket - Apr 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    I feel this is being made into something bigger than it is….but if someone has to take the fall for something they create, it’s a deliberate, loud-mouth imbecile.
    Ozzie will be brought back down to earth rather harshly, but it’s not the worst thing.

    • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:10 AM

      Easy for you to say – you’re not the Earth.

      • kiwicricket - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:30 AM

        Nice

  16. deathmonkey41 - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    No better way to represent the freedom-loving Cubans of Miami and show distain for the oppressive rule of Fidel Castro then by trying to oppress the opinions of someone you don’t necessarliy agree with and have them punished for such opinions…ugh.

    • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:56 AM

      That’s exactly it. There is a way to express your disapproval of Guillen’s comment without deliberately trying to ruin his career. And given the group that is outraged in this instance, it’s especially hypocritical.

      • autmorsautlibertas - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM

        JS- Under your reasoning, people should be able to say whatever they want and face no negative reaction for doing so. So, if Ozzie said, “I love Hitler” you would conclude that since Jewish people would protest vocally and call for the Marlins to fire him, they are a special interest with an axe to grind? People have a right to make whatever statements they wish, but the public has a right to interpret those remarks however they wish, and respond with their own expression of freedom of speech. Ozzie CHOSE to publicly comment on a controversial subject, he does not get a “pass” on the response from the public because he was merely exercising his free speech. If a man chooses to make a public statement on a controversial subject, he must answer his critics publicly. Ozzie chose the forum and the subject matter. No one is trying to “oppress” free speech, they are just holding him accountable for things HE said.

      • js20011041 - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:32 AM

        Yes, if that were the case the Jews would be a special interest group with an axe to grind. Why is that so hard to understand? Why does holding him accountable for this particularly benign statement mean putting pressure on the team to fire him? Why is it unacceptable to for the Cuban community to simply condemn his words without trying to get him fired? Under your thinking, is it appropriate for those who condemn the reaction of the Cuban community to organize boycotts of all Cuban businesses?

        And by the way, I’m still waiting for an explanation for your “they should run him out of Florida” comment.

      • autmorsautlibertas - Apr 10, 2012 at 12:01 PM

        I still stand by the “run him out of Florida” statement. Such statements are not consistent with his responsibilities and position. Ozzie alienated a large portion of his team’s fan base. This incident has potential to affect the team financially. On “business” grounds alone, the Marlins should discharge him. Based upon the reaction of the Cuban-American community in Florida, I suspect that they will not be able to forgive him.

  17. ningenito78 - Apr 10, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    I agree with the vast majority. All I keep hearing the talking heads of Miami say is how so many Cuban-Americans got here by ‘throwing themselves into the ocean’ just to get away from a tyrant and find freedom. You sure wouldn’t think such a strong culture would be so damn sensitive. It’s political opportunism at its best pouring gasoline on a campfire. To all who were offended by this, my condolences. But grow up.

  18. rcali - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    It’s just Ozzie being Ozzie everybody. Selig has let this clown run his mouth for years and now it’s coming back to bite MLB.

  19. citizenkane9 - Apr 10, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Let’s go over hisory here. Castro toppled the regime of Fulgencio Batista, who was a dictator. Under his regime, many peasant Cuban’s lived in a life of misery and many were imprisoned and killed. Castro, with a small band of revolutionaires, took over the government and for that he should be praised. A large majority of Cuban’s, who “fled” were the aristocratic members of society, who benefited from Batista. The reason there is so much hatred for Castro, in this country and the reason the blockade is still in effect is that Castro used the Soviet Union as a pawn to promote his agenda. His agenda came from the hatred of most Cubans for the United States because of their involvemnt in the Spanish American War. The Cuban’s had a history of wars with Spain, for which they lost and finally, at the end of the 19th century they were winning their latest war with Spain, via attrition. At this point President McKinley decided that the United States should get involved because, at the time, sugar was an important commodity. After the war, the United States decided to take control and signed the Platt Amendment, which said that Cuba could be an independent country, in name only and that they could not refine their own sugar, borrow money from any other country, except ours and they could not allow any other country to have a military base in Cuba. Because of the fact that Cuba had all of this sugar, and that most of the money went to the United States were it was refined Cuba saw little profit. Castro was born in 1926 and most of his generation had a deep hatred for our country. This was evident during the Bay of Pigs, when the assumption was that the people would welcome the soldiers with open arms and aid in the invasion. Of course, this did not happen and Presiden Kennedy cancelled the air strike that was planned and the soldiers were captured. It was an embarrasment for this country and a victory for Castro. Anyway, the fact of the matter is that Cuba, a tiny island has held the United States at bay for over 50 years and the “Batista” Cubans have been fighting him ever since. Now, Catro did become a ruthless dicator over time, but the fact of the matter is that today, most of Cuba’s population is literate and they all have health care. What Ozzie said would only offend “Batista” Cuban’s, who in my opinion, are as hypocritical as anyone who speaks the word freedom with one side of the mouth and who want to suppress that freedom with the other side. Where I come from, there is a saying about “Batista” Cuban’s, we call them come mierdas.

  20. rooney24 - Apr 10, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    At what point did ANYONE expect Ozzie to change and not say everything that was on his mind (which are often dumb and/or offensive)? The team knew what they were getting when they acquired him. It is ridiculous that some think he should be fired over one stupid statement.

  21. g2-3c5b498d48de9435d74d063fd723eb8f - Apr 11, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    “The freedom-loving people” of Miami need to embrace freedom of speech.

Leave Comment

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!

Featured video

Final take away from World Series
Top 10 MLB Player Searches
  1. H. Pence (2152)
  2. Y. Cespedes (2101)
  3. J. Panik (2000)
  4. M. Morse (1977)
  5. M. Moustakas (1938)