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	<title>Comments on: Please Fredi, stop using your worst relievers in close games</title>
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		<title>By: Walk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every team carries a mop up pitcher. Guy who comes in when your bullpen needs a day off and takes one for the team or comes in in a blowout either way. Using that guy in a close game signals to the world that the manager believes his team has no chance of winning. To do that at the very start of the season and when playing against a team picked to come in last does not bode well. If the bullpen needs rest now something is very wrong in Atlanta.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every team carries a mop up pitcher. Guy who comes in when your bullpen needs a day off and takes one for the team or comes in in a blowout either way. Using that guy in a close game signals to the world that the manager believes his team has no chance of winning. To do that at the very start of the season and when playing against a team picked to come in last does not bode well. If the bullpen needs rest now something is very wrong in Atlanta.</p>
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		<title>By: psl1196</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[psl1196]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m no Fredi fan, but you guys would all be crying about over-use of the top 4 guys in the pen if he&#039;d have done anything else....it is 4 games]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no Fredi fan, but you guys would all be crying about over-use of the top 4 guys in the pen if he&#8217;d have done anything else&#8230;.it is 4 games</p>
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		<title>By: Walk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Livan would be ok if he got more movement on his knuckleball, Right now it just looks like an 82mph four seamer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Livan would be ok if he got more movement on his knuckleball, Right now it just looks like an 82mph four seamer.</p>
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		<title>By: foreverchipper10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foreverchipper10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is Fredi&#039;s strategy. He burned them out last year so he doesn&#039;t want to use them now. He wants to save them for the end of the year. That strategy doesn&#039;t look too smart if they can&#039;t win a friggin game though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is Fredi&#8217;s strategy. He burned them out last year so he doesn&#8217;t want to use them now. He wants to save them for the end of the year. That strategy doesn&#8217;t look too smart if they can&#8217;t win a friggin game though.</p>
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		<title>By: hasbeen5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hasbeen5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why they haven&#039;t been used instead of Durbin and Livan is baffling.  I&#039;ll take it a step further.

They originally picked Flande (a  lefty) for the last bullpen spot, but then signed Durbin. If they wanted another righty, why not stick with Cody Gearrin. He&#039;s cheaper and would likely be more effective. He spent time in the bigs last year and held his own. And he gets ground balls, I doubt he&#039;d have given up 2 bombs in his first 2 innings.

Veteran leadership can not possibly make up for performance like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why they haven&#8217;t been used instead of Durbin and Livan is baffling.  I&#8217;ll take it a step further.</p>
<p>They originally picked Flande (a  lefty) for the last bullpen spot, but then signed Durbin. If they wanted another righty, why not stick with Cody Gearrin. He&#8217;s cheaper and would likely be more effective. He spent time in the bigs last year and held his own. And he gets ground balls, I doubt he&#8217;d have given up 2 bombs in his first 2 innings.</p>
<p>Veteran leadership can not possibly make up for performance like that.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks bald to me....not that there is anything wrong with that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks bald to me&#8230;.not that there is anything wrong with that.</p>
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		<title>By: cltjump</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cltjump]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martinez and Medlen, my friend. Fat Fredi is just too stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martinez and Medlen, my friend. Fat Fredi is just too stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: cltjump</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cltjump]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So tight it kills him, yeah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So tight it kills him, yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: clarenceoveur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clarenceoveur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phillies maybe even worse, Papelbon unused in tie game in 9th and 10th on Saturday, unused with 1 run lead in 8th and tie in 9th on Sunday, then used to protect 3 run deficit on Monday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillies maybe even worse, Papelbon unused in tie game in 9th and 10th on Saturday, unused with 1 run lead in 8th and tie in 9th on Sunday, then used to protect 3 run deficit on Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: bravojawja</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bravojawja]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the plus side, this year O&#039;Ventbrel will be well-rested in September to help deny the Marlins and Mets the Wild Card spots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the plus side, this year O&#8217;Ventbrel will be well-rested in September to help deny the Marlins and Mets the Wild Card spots.</p>
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		<title>By: TheNaturalMevs</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/10/please-fredi-stop-using-your-worst-relievers-in-close-games/comment-page-1/#comment-281968</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheNaturalMevs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please also stop playing Matt Diaz against lefties rather than let Heyward build some experience doing so. 

Fredi is the worst manager in the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please also stop playing Matt Diaz against lefties rather than let Heyward build some experience doing so. </p>
<p>Fredi is the worst manager in the game.</p>
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		<title>By: gerryb323</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gerryb323]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks white to me...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks white to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a reasonable assessment. When Cecil Cooper crashed and burned in Houston, they had no trouble firing him and no repercussions from doing so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a reasonable assessment. When Cecil Cooper crashed and burned in Houston, they had no trouble firing him and no repercussions from doing so.</p>
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		<title>By: ogre2010</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ogre2010]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Safe to say now that Freddi isn&#039;t Bobby!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Safe to say now that Freddi isn&#8217;t Bobby!!</p>
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		<title>By: hasbeen5</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/10/please-fredi-stop-using-your-worst-relievers-in-close-games/comment-page-1/#comment-281949</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hasbeen5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Use Kimbrel if it&#039;s not a save situation? Use Venters or O&#039;Flaherty while losing?

You must be sniffing Toradol or something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use Kimbrel if it&#8217;s not a save situation? Use Venters or O&#8217;Flaherty while losing?</p>
<p>You must be sniffing Toradol or something.</p>
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		<title>By: js20011041</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[js20011041]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bud Selig needs to eliminate the save rule.  How much better off would the game be without it?  Imagine the freedom to use your relievers whenever you deem appropriate and not just in some arbitrary fashion to placate the financial needs of your best reliever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bud Selig needs to eliminate the save rule.  How much better off would the game be without it?  Imagine the freedom to use your relievers whenever you deem appropriate and not just in some arbitrary fashion to placate the financial needs of your best reliever.</p>
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		<title>By: frankvzappa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frankvzappa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He can do things like this because he doesn&#039;t have to worry about being fired since he isn&#039;t white.  Imagine the outrage that would ensue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He can do things like this because he doesn&#8217;t have to worry about being fired since he isn&#8217;t white.  Imagine the outrage that would ensue.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This all seems so familiar somehow. Ah well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all seems so familiar somehow. Ah well.</p>
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		<title>By: vtboo41</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vtboo41]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Time to tighten the leash on Fredi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to tighten the leash on Fredi</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too true.

I think there is an interesting social phenomenon at work in baseball.  There are decades of information that any manager can use to devise strategies and to understand which strategies are more likely to have positive outcomes and to contribute to winning or losing ball games.  Indeed, nearly all teams employ a team of analytical experts the manager could use to understand the consequences of any strategy he would like to employ.

Instead of using the available information to actually answer questions, &quot;baseball men&quot; seem to prefer to remain in the dark so that opinion can rule the day.  So...instead of using real information, they just ask each other what they think and weight opinion based on the baseballiness of the &quot;opiner&quot; rather than the information on which the opinion is based.

A lot of decisions in life are made based on this social mechanism, but in cases where actual data exists, falling back on this mechanism is stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too true.</p>
<p>I think there is an interesting social phenomenon at work in baseball.  There are decades of information that any manager can use to devise strategies and to understand which strategies are more likely to have positive outcomes and to contribute to winning or losing ball games.  Indeed, nearly all teams employ a team of analytical experts the manager could use to understand the consequences of any strategy he would like to employ.</p>
<p>Instead of using the available information to actually answer questions, &#8220;baseball men&#8221; seem to prefer to remain in the dark so that opinion can rule the day.  So&#8230;instead of using real information, they just ask each other what they think and weight opinion based on the baseballiness of the &#8220;opiner&#8221; rather than the information on which the opinion is based.</p>
<p>A lot of decisions in life are made based on this social mechanism, but in cases where actual data exists, falling back on this mechanism is stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: danrizzle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[danrizzle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are only thirty manager jobs at this level in the world.  The very fact that so many of them, including and perhaps especially Fredi, are so utterly incompetent to do the job just does not make sense given its scarcity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are only thirty manager jobs at this level in the world.  The very fact that so many of them, including and perhaps especially Fredi, are so utterly incompetent to do the job just does not make sense given its scarcity.</p>
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		<title>By: bobulated</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobulated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As soon as they plucked Durbin and Hernandez off the scrap heap, I knew Fredi would not be able to resist the urge to use them constantly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as they plucked Durbin and Hernandez off the scrap heap, I knew Fredi would not be able to resist the urge to use them constantly.</p>
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