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	<title>Comments on: So far, offense is offensive</title>
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		<title>By: stex52</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/12/so-far-offense-is-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-283736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stex52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 03:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know that we have a lot of data for your analysis, but I like the drift. That was always my problem with moneyball and the reason why the A&#039;s never did well in the playoffs. All those fat, slow, patient hitters had to match up against guys who were just as good at the plate but also were fast and could catch the ball.

I just added a few of my own generalizations, but I hope you are right. I like the complete game. As defensive metrics improve, I think that will be vindicated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that we have a lot of data for your analysis, but I like the drift. That was always my problem with moneyball and the reason why the A&#8217;s never did well in the playoffs. All those fat, slow, patient hitters had to match up against guys who were just as good at the plate but also were fast and could catch the ball.</p>
<p>I just added a few of my own generalizations, but I hope you are right. I like the complete game. As defensive metrics improve, I think that will be vindicated.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/12/so-far-offense-is-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-283718</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) MLB has indeed denied tinkering with the composition of the ball, although people have taken balls from before and after the offense spike of the mid-nineties and compared them, finding that the balls used during the offensive explosion were indeed tighter.

2) Petco Park opened in &#039;04.  Comerica opened in 2000.  Coors Field went to the humidor in &#039;02.  AT&amp;T Park opened in &#039;00.  Target Field opened in 2010.  And Citi Field opened in &#039;09.  I know it&#039;s inconvenient for you to include the entire decade, but newer, larger parks have been part of the overall downward trend.  No, Comerica and AT&amp;T didn&#039;t do it all by themselves at the start of the decade, but they certainly have helped overall.  I find it curious that you seem to have no problem assuming that a gradual buildup in the usage of PEDs caused a massive one-time jump in offensive levels, but take issue with the notion that a gradual shift to larger ballparks couldn&#039;t have been the reason for offense falling abruptly off that level (hint, the falloff didn&#039;t lineup with testing, either).

3) Presuming the pendulum swinging back to defensive emphasis, yes, really.  Do you think a team like the Yankees would have ever let somebody like Brett Gardner play a traditional power position ten years ago?  The market inefficiency was to move toward bat-first guys at traditional defense-first positions, not the other way around.  The As got the book written about them, but the smart teams were all looking at advanced stats for ways to find undervalued players, and all they could quantify at the time was offense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) MLB has indeed denied tinkering with the composition of the ball, although people have taken balls from before and after the offense spike of the mid-nineties and compared them, finding that the balls used during the offensive explosion were indeed tighter.</p>
<p>2) Petco Park opened in &#8217;04.  Comerica opened in 2000.  Coors Field went to the humidor in &#8217;02.  AT&amp;T Park opened in &#8217;00.  Target Field opened in 2010.  And Citi Field opened in &#8217;09.  I know it&#8217;s inconvenient for you to include the entire decade, but newer, larger parks have been part of the overall downward trend.  No, Comerica and AT&amp;T didn&#8217;t do it all by themselves at the start of the decade, but they certainly have helped overall.  I find it curious that you seem to have no problem assuming that a gradual buildup in the usage of PEDs caused a massive one-time jump in offensive levels, but take issue with the notion that a gradual shift to larger ballparks couldn&#8217;t have been the reason for offense falling abruptly off that level (hint, the falloff didn&#8217;t lineup with testing, either).</p>
<p>3) Presuming the pendulum swinging back to defensive emphasis, yes, really.  Do you think a team like the Yankees would have ever let somebody like Brett Gardner play a traditional power position ten years ago?  The market inefficiency was to move toward bat-first guys at traditional defense-first positions, not the other way around.  The As got the book written about them, but the smart teams were all looking at advanced stats for ways to find undervalued players, and all they could quantify at the time was offense.</p>
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		<title>By: deathmonkey41</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deathmonkey41]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.) Do you have any documentation from the manufacturers of baseballs that they changed the way the core was wound or anything was changed with the way they were assembled?  From everything I&#039;ve heard, those companies denied ever changing the balls.

2.) What new ballparks- outside of the Mets stadium- built since 2004-05, have been significantly larger in size?

3.) Really?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.) Do you have any documentation from the manufacturers of baseballs that they changed the way the core was wound or anything was changed with the way they were assembled?  From everything I&#8217;ve heard, those companies denied ever changing the balls.</p>
<p>2.) What new ballparks- outside of the Mets stadium- built since 2004-05, have been significantly larger in size?</p>
<p>3.) Really?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/12/so-far-offense-is-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-283447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, they loosened the balls back up once offense became a PR nightmare because of the alleged association with steroids, most of the newest parks have been rather large, more emphasis has been placed on defensively-oriented players once teams realized that just because we couldn&#039;t measure defense as well as offense doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not important.  But hey, go ahead and insinuate that it&#039;s because baseball has *finally* excised the scourge of &quot;PE&quot;Ds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they loosened the balls back up once offense became a PR nightmare because of the alleged association with steroids, most of the newest parks have been rather large, more emphasis has been placed on defensively-oriented players once teams realized that just because we couldn&#8217;t measure defense as well as offense doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not important.  But hey, go ahead and insinuate that it&#8217;s because baseball has *finally* excised the scourge of &#8220;PE&#8221;Ds.</p>
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		<title>By: cltjump</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cltjump]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me introduce you to the Atlanta Braves.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me introduce you to the Atlanta Braves&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: deathmonkey41</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deathmonkey41]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too bad we still don&#039;t have those small ballparks, weak pitching, and tighter-would balls that made offense through the 90&#039;s more prevelant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad we still don&#8217;t have those small ballparks, weak pitching, and tighter-would balls that made offense through the 90&#8242;s more prevelant.</p>
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		<title>By: js20011041</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/12/so-far-offense-is-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-283398</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[js20011041]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That sounds about right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds about right.</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/12/so-far-offense-is-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-283387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait...I thought it was just the Phightins...?!?!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230;I thought it was just the Phightins&#8230;?!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: cleverbob</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/12/so-far-offense-is-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-283386</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cleverbob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess the Twins fall under the flaccid penis category...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the Twins fall under the flaccid penis category&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget the Twins. Ugh. 12 runs. League average so far is 24.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the Twins. Ugh. 12 runs. League average so far is 24.</p>
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		<title>By: js20011041</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/12/so-far-offense-is-offensive/comment-page-1/#comment-283379</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[js20011041]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey!  No talking about baseball.  This is the flacid penis thread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!  No talking about baseball.  This is the flacid penis thread.</p>
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		<title>By: dondada10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dondada10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/04/06/259171-26-hotdog.jpg

That might actually be a sign of the apocalypse.  I&#039;m flipping through Revelations right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/04/06/259171-26-hotdog.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/04/06/259171-26-hotdog.jpg</a></p>
<p>That might actually be a sign of the apocalypse.  I&#8217;m flipping through Revelations right now.</p>
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		<title>By: redguy12588</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[redguy12588]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is all the Pirates fault.  They have 9 runs in 5 games, and had an outburst of 5 runs(!) in one game.  

So that&#039;s 4 runs in 4 games.

I want to kill myself watching this team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all the Pirates fault.  They have 9 runs in 5 games, and had an outburst of 5 runs(!) in one game.  </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s 4 runs in 4 games.</p>
<p>I want to kill myself watching this team.</p>
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		<title>By: js20011041</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[js20011041]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t tell whether that guys needs more viagra or less enzyte.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t tell whether that guys needs more viagra or less enzyte.</p>
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		<title>By: itsacurse</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[itsacurse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have obviously not seen the photo of the Texas Rangers Nelson Cruz Boomstick Hot Dog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have obviously not seen the photo of the Texas Rangers Nelson Cruz Boomstick Hot Dog.</p>
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		<title>By: dondada10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dondada10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the most phallic picture I&#039;ve ever seen on a baseball blog.  Well done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the most phallic picture I&#8217;ve ever seen on a baseball blog.  Well done.</p>
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