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Deep Thoughts: If Aroldis Chapman walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck …

Apr 13, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT

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Aroldis Chapman pitched two pretty fantastic innings of relief and got the win on Wednesday. Then this:

Left-hander Aroldis Chapman was not available to pitch Thursday after going two innings and 35 pitches Wednesday. “He may not be available (Friday) either,” Reds manager Dusty Baker said. “It depends on how he feels.”

So, he pitches multiple effective innings and then needs a couple of days off, eh?  Can someone then tell me why he isn’t a starter?

  1. dondada10 - Apr 13, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Q: Can someone then tell me why he isn’t a starter?
    A: Dusty Baker manages the Reds.

    • bsbiz - Apr 13, 2012 at 10:19 AM

      It actually has more to do with some obsession over Homer Bailey and the fact that he’s now out of options. And an injury to Nick Masset. And the fact that Bronson Arroyo is making waaaaay too much money to just jettison. But that is likely a part of it as well.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Apr 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM

        Yes, they made some mistakes in the past, so they should absolutely continue making mistakes by wasting their second best pitcher in middle relief.

  2. ezthinking - Apr 13, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    I’m guessing they don’t think he can go through the lineup 2-3 times. That an abit of a high pitch count.

  3. Old Gator - Apr 13, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    f I was an eagle I’d dress like a duck
    Crawl like a lizard and honk like a truck
    If I get a notion I’ll climb this tree
    or chop it down and you can’t stop me
    Chop it down and you can’t stop me

    Grateful Dead, “Liberty”
    Hunter-Garcia

    • metalhead65 - Apr 13, 2012 at 2:03 PM

      greatful dead suck! worst band ever ever unless you are stoned deadhead.

      • beefalo23 - Apr 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

        To quote Jerry:

        “Ain’t no time to hate, barely time to wait.” (Uncle John’s Band). chill, Metal boy.

  4. RedHeadedBastard - Apr 13, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Dusty was afraid to put him in against that Nationals juggernaut offense.

    • spudchukar - Apr 13, 2012 at 10:49 AM

      He couldn’t pitch yesterday, he had pitched 2 innings the day before, and I believe 1 the previous day.

      As to Chapman and starting, I support Dusty’s approach so far. Let us not forget Chapman imploded at times last year. So-so Spring. So I say let him stretch out in a few relief appearances, gain a little confidence, and then perhaps move him to the rotation when Bailey or Leake fail. It would also be helpful if Dale Scott were his ump all the time too.

      • RedHeadedBastard - Apr 13, 2012 at 10:50 AM

        You’ve obviously never heard of sarcasm.

      • spudchukar - Apr 13, 2012 at 12:32 PM

        You are making a damn fool of yourself. The sarcasm was in reference to the National’s offense. It doesn’t apply to my comment, which dulls the sarcasm.

      • whodeytn - Apr 13, 2012 at 5:04 PM

        17 IP, 18K, 2BB, 4ER, 2-0 record.

        Yeah, he sure had a “so-so” Spring.

  5. randygnyc - Apr 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    I thin he’s being mismanaged like Joba was.

  6. yahmule - Apr 13, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    The Joba comparison is dead on the money. Has anybody ruined more young talent than Dusty Baker?

    • metalhead65 - Apr 13, 2012 at 12:52 PM

      no he hasn’t,that is just a myth if you listen to the experts and ignore his track record. they have messed this kid up just like they did with bailey. rush him to the majors then demote until he has a good start then bring him back up then repeat until he is out of options then wonder why he has not been the ace they predicted. I know they have injury problems but there is still no excuse for bouncing him around like that. but these are the same people who thought it would be a good idea to sign a guy who was so awful he could not make the orioles staff! and he has done just what you would expect and sucked beyond belief so far. in the meantime the kid they got from the braves is striking out the side in louisville at the same time this simon loser is giving the game to the nationals. but hey dusty has been in baseball 40 years and he knows more than we do right?

      • yahmule - Apr 13, 2012 at 5:10 PM

        Sub .500 record in eight seasons with the last two clubs he managed. Ruined Prior for sure, and probably Wood, as well. Only real talent he ever possessed was making sure Barry Bonds ass was kissed on a daily basis.

        The rest of your post is a hot mess of run-on sentences and not worth deciphering.

  7. somekat - Apr 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Maybe they feel like if he pitches 2 innings and needs a 2 days off, he will need a full week any time he pitches a decent game (7 innings plus), and that will screw up the rest of the rotation. Or give him dead arm by mid summer, but that is just a guess.

    To me, this makes it just as likely that he should be a 1 inning reliever (closer?) than it does that he should be expected to get a pitch count near triple digits on a regular basis

  8. metalhead65 - Apr 13, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    maybe he would be available more often if he had not spent spring as a starter and a pretty good one at that. so yea get the arm ready to one thing for 2 months then decide to forget that and start work on being a reliever again and then be surprised he is not ready to do what relievers do. next will be the shocked reaction when under goes tommy john surgery.

  9. whodeytn - Apr 13, 2012 at 3:55 PM

    As to Chapman and starting, I support Dusty’s approach so far. Let us not forget Chapman imploded at times last year. So-so Spring. So I say let him stretch out in a few relief appearances, gain a little confidence, and then perhaps move him to the rotation when Bailey or Leake fail. It would also be helpful if Dale Scott were his ump all the time too.
    ——

    So so spring? What are you talking about? He was by far the reds best SP.

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