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Daisuke Matsuzaka moving up to Triple-A, could be back sooner than expected

Apr 30, 2012, 9:13 AM EDT

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After a good rehab start at Double-A on Saturday, Bobby Valentine said that Daisuke Matsuzaka will make his next injury rehabilitation start for Triple A Pawtucket, and that it will be the third in what the Red Sox expect will be five minor league starts.

If that schedule holds, and if he sticks to a normal four days rests between starts, he would be available to pitch in the bigs as early as May 18.

He had been shooting for a June return. And given that he had his Tommy John surgery in early June last year, anything earlier than June would represent a pretty speedy recovery as far as these things go.

  1. rsnorth - Apr 30, 2012 at 9:25 AM

    The Red Sox should move with the type of speed that Dice-K shows in between pitches. Slow down! Let him use those minor league starts to build up his arm strength. Other than Clay Buchholz the Red Sox rotation is now delivering decent starts on a regular basis. They also have to make a decision about moving Aaron Cook to the majors. Let Dice-K enjoy Pawtucket and some other AAA stops before coming back to the big club.

    • bloodysock - Apr 30, 2012 at 10:45 AM

      And the decision on Cook needs to come tomorrow (unless he agrees to extend his opt-out date).

    • wlschneider09 - Apr 30, 2012 at 11:05 AM

      I agree, he’s gonna need all that arm strength to get through the 110 pitches he throws in 5 innings.

  2. uyf1950 - Apr 30, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    As a Yankees fan we can only hope.

  3. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Apr 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    I think there is a 30-day timer that kicks in once he starts rehabbing. When was the first one?

    • bloodysock - Apr 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM

      I believe it was 4/23 in Salem.

  4. randygnyc - Apr 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Get him in there already. He’s ready, I swear.

    • wendell7 - Apr 30, 2012 at 11:28 AM

      I bet you’d take Dice-K ahead of Phil Hughes or Freddy Garcia

  5. danindelray - Apr 30, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    He went six days between his first and second rehab start. There’s no intent of getting him onto any four day schedule, so extrapolating a May 18 return is ludicrous. Maybe he goes to four days in between his next-to-last and last rehab start but I am quite certain they will take most or all of May before they bring him up.

    The real question confronting the team is Cook, and are they smart enough to realize that Buchholz doesn’t deserve a spot in the rotation while Doubront does? There’s talk of Cook in the bullpen but why would he agree to that? I could see his sinker working but he’s been a starter a long time and wants to earn a new deal as a starter. I guess they could call him up and use him as they want to but that will only poison the well if they don’t give him a chance as a starter.

  6. randygnyc - Apr 30, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    You’d be wrong. Hughes will improve. IMO, Garcia is finished, but he’s had a nice career. I don’t think Dice will be any more effective, and he’s had no career to speak of.

    • giselleisasucubus - Apr 30, 2012 at 12:30 PM

      Really, no career to speak of, and Hughes is better? Get a clue, and here some #’s for you. ..15-12 in 07, part of the rotation that won a title, 18-3 in 08. Yes, he’s gone 16-15 since, and he hasn’t been as good as they expected, but he has been better and contributed more in his career than Hughes. People have short memories nowadays.

  7. teaspoon1731 - Apr 30, 2012 at 1:43 PM

    Dice K was pretty solid before he destroyed himself in the World Baseball Classic. He hasn’t been the same since. However, now that he’s had time to repair and recover, he seems to be looking a lot like his old self. So I’m pretty sure he’ll be plenty effective.

  8. randygnyc - Apr 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Here’s a clue Giselle-
    Freddie has had a 14 year career with 133 career wins to only 89 losses. Career 4.19 ERA. Dice is 49-30 with a higher ERA. Phil Hughes is 32-21 with the same 4.35 ERA as Dice and cost around NINETY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS LESS!!!

    • xavier46 - May 1, 2012 at 3:12 AM

      Thanks for proving a point.

      Dice-K has .620 winning % in games he factors into the decision. If you did your research correctly, you would know that Hughes’ career numbers are 37-26, a winning % of .587 in 75 career starts. Again, you are incorrect, Freddy is 145-97 career for a .599%. Phil has a 4.58 ERA, Dice-K has 4.25, Freddy has 4.15… Hughes and Dice-K made their MLB debuts exactly 3 weeks apart in April of 2007. Phil hasn’t signed a long-term MLB contract, and likely won’t ever get a big deal unless his numbers improve. Dice-K surely cost a lot of money, but I think we can all agree he’s panned out better than Hideki Irabu.

      “Hughes will improve. . . I don’t think Dice will be any more effective, and he’s had no career to speak of.”

      So… Hughes WILL improve, but Dice-K won’t be any more effective… OK OK you’ve convinced me with that strong evidence.

      No career? Since you used the term career, you should check out his numbers in Japan and the WBC. Then you really have zero argument.

      Here’s a clue…

      Thanks for playing, keep on trollin’…

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