Comments on: Charlie Manuel: Cole Hamels should have kept his mouth shut

By: mrhojorisin

mrhojorisin — Tue, 08 May 2012 18:24:30 +0000

Do people still expect professional athletes to be role models?

By: siftin thru nonsense

siftin thru nonsense — Tue, 08 May 2012 14:44:44 +0000

-would have gone-

By: delawarephilliesfan

delawarephilliesfan — Tue, 08 May 2012 13:27:21 +0000

I understand what you are saying – but honestly, what can be done beyond the games? You can’t mandate someone misses a start. And if your suggestion is 10 games or somethign like that – well, that would be an interesting precedent. Regardless of what you think of the HBP itself, it does happen at least 5 – 10 times a year thorughout baseball. The only thing out of the ordinary here was the admission. So in essence, MLB would be punishing him for admitting he did it. Not sayin they can’t do that….just saying it would create a bizarre situation.

The funny thing people are missing is the timing. Hamels can only “game” the system because MLB instantly issued the suspension. If MLB announced the suspension Wedensday, he would have to miss a start

By: delawarephilliesfan

delawarephilliesfan — Tue, 08 May 2012 13:19:29 +0000

Yes, but be honest Nats fans….you didn’t simply want Harper to do well, you wanted to pound Hamels. And the Nats did have a lead in that game. IMO, it was a bit of a draw who go the last laugh – Harper had a good game (but did drop the 3rd out of the 9th, and the Phillies scored 2 more runs), and Hamels dominated. So……

It is wrong to hit a batter, period. There, I said it. Now Nats fans, please – get a grip.

By: mungman69

mungman69 — Tue, 08 May 2012 07:41:59 +0000

All Washington fans are either Congressmen or criminals and you can’t tell the difference

By: baseballisboring

baseballisboring — Tue, 08 May 2012 06:32:55 +0000

And the thing is, they aren’t. When I was 10-11 Pedro Martinez and Nomar Garciaparra were in their prime…I wouldn’t have cared if they spent their weekends beating up nuns in public, as long as they continued to dominate the league. Kids emulate the behavior of their parents, and of their friends. Basically no one else.

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Tue, 08 May 2012 06:22:25 +0000

A couple of schmucks taunting him as he left the field proved you right about an entire fanbase? A couple of schmucks taunting him in a stadium that was alleged to have been “taken back” by its resident team’s fans? What further proof is needed, since tropboi11 has said so?

By: baseballisboring

baseballisboring — Tue, 08 May 2012 06:20:17 +0000

Yeah, but now you’re talking about the whole team. As far as a 1 on 1 situation between two guys, Harper threw the HBP right back in his face, and it was glorious.

By: tropboi11

tropboi11 — Tue, 08 May 2012 05:41:54 +0000

All Philadelphia Philthy fans are tools and d-bags, they proved me right after Werth broke his wrist

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Tue, 08 May 2012 04:34:33 +0000

After two failed attempts to reply on HBT itself, maybe I can respond through my reply counter up top, so I’ll try it this way…

I don’t understand your reply. I’ve been saying that all day.

By: nategearhart

nategearhart — Tue, 08 May 2012 01:58:43 +0000

So forget about the honesty, be mad that the children see him throwing hard objects at a person he’s never met for no good reason.

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Tue, 08 May 2012 01:34:16 +0000

Wishing ill on somebody else…really classy, you tool.

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Tue, 08 May 2012 01:33:21 +0000

I don’t expect them to be role models for my kids, but I do accept the fact that they will look to them for cues as to how to handle some situations, and to emulate them.

By: cf17

cf17 — Tue, 08 May 2012 00:50:37 +0000

Hamels is a tool…I hope Harper hits a line drive off his forehead

By: CJ

CJ — Tue, 08 May 2012 00:50:04 +0000

My understanding is the truth lies somewhat in the middle. It’s more like a 400k mandatory donation to the charity of MLB’s choosing. Which, essentially makes Hamels’ wallet temporarily about half a mil lighter, but he can write it off at tax time.

By: captainwisdom8888

captainwisdom8888 — Tue, 08 May 2012 00:44:49 +0000

nategearhart – May 7, 2012 at 8:24 PM
QUIT EXPECTING ATHLETES TO BE ROLE MODELS FOR YOUR GODDAMN KIDS.
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Amen. These guys are professional athletes…NOT professional models of behavior and they shouldn’t be revered as such. Kids should respect their athletic ability but if you’re looking for a behavioral role model….how bout a teacher? A parent? A doctor?

* I do agree that Hamels could not have helped himself nor the team by admitting what he had done.

By: nategearhart

nategearhart — Tue, 08 May 2012 00:24:24 +0000

QUIT EXPECTING ATHLETES TO BE ROLE MODELS FOR YOUR GODDAMN KIDS.

By: stabonerichard

stabonerichard — Tue, 08 May 2012 00:18:15 +0000

Perhaps I’m mistaken, but I believe these types of suspensions are *with* pay. Failed drug tests result in suspension without pay, but I’m pretty sure a situation like this doesn’t.

MLB did hit Hamels with an “undisclosed fine”… which I’d be shocked if it amounted to even 1% of his annual earnings. It’s essentially a speeding ticket, but for a guy with a couple extra zeroes at the end of his salary compared to the rest of us.

The Phils have Thursday off, so Saturday’s scheduled start date for Hamels gets pushed back a day, while Halladay will slide into Saturday’s spot on normal rest.

This punishment has the teeth of a prison gimp.

By: nickynick04

nickynick04 — Tue, 08 May 2012 00:08:14 +0000

Yes he will get paid…read the rules before you make statements

By: sasquash20

sasquash20 — Tue, 08 May 2012 00:07:21 +0000

except Cole dominated the rest of the game and would have went all 9 but the Phils dropped 6 on them in the 9th so no point to have him keep pitching.

By: smcgaels1997

smcgaels1997 — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:48:58 +0000

Yep..wouldn’t want to be role models for the youth….never be honest

By: Mark

Mark — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:40:31 +0000

It’s hard to feel bad for him on the financial side given that he’s still making 14+M this season.

By: Matthew Pouliot

Matthew Pouliot — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:35:54 +0000

The punishment is that he loses about $400,000 in salary because he’s not paid for the five games. I’m not impressed with five- or six-game suspensions for SPs either, but there is a financial component here.

By: jssgriffi

jssgriffi — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:30:19 +0000

MLB punish for this is horrible. What the hell is the difference in suspending a player that only plays once every 5 games. He should be have to miss a start until his spot in the rotation is up again. Commissioner has no balls.

By: sabatimus

sabatimus — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:05:59 +0000

Yeah, honesty really really sucks. It’s a terrible personal failing.

By: ipadcowboy

ipadcowboy — Mon, 07 May 2012 23:03:43 +0000

Yes, he should have kept quiet, but Harper showed him up by stealing home!!