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	<title>Comments on: Ex-Twins prospect Dan Osterbrock has angry words for team</title>
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		<title>By: baseballisboring</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/08/ex-twins-prospect-dan-osterbrock-has-angry-words-for-team/comment-page-1/#comment-297905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baseballisboring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 17:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, thanks, definitely sounds more like sour grapes now...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, thanks, definitely sounds more like sour grapes now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cris E</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cris E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 15:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Twins paid for surgery and the initial rehab and when he came to camp he still wasn&#039;t right. He didn&#039;t pitch well and they cut him.  He went off and got another opinion, had more surgery, filed a worker&#039;s comp claim so that the team will pay for the second operation, and then went out and complained about them. It&#039;s in the St Paul paper today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Twins paid for surgery and the initial rehab and when he came to camp he still wasn&#8217;t right. He didn&#8217;t pitch well and they cut him.  He went off and got another opinion, had more surgery, filed a worker&#8217;s comp claim so that the team will pay for the second operation, and then went out and complained about them. It&#8217;s in the St Paul paper today.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 15:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are you guys talking about? Pitching to contact is all about reducing strikeouts and increasing groundballs. Period. End of story. 

A pitcher who doesn&#039;t try to strike out batters but instead tries to get them to hit the ball weakly, especially on the ground, is said to pitch to contact. &quot;Schilling has gone on the record as saying he&#039;d like to pitch to contact more this season in an effort to reduce his pitch count and go deeper into games. Such an effort is likely to reduce the number of strikeouts he gets but in theory might provide quicker innings and faster games.&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball_(P)#pitch_to_contact]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you guys talking about? Pitching to contact is all about reducing strikeouts and increasing groundballs. Period. End of story. </p>
<p>A pitcher who doesn&#8217;t try to strike out batters but instead tries to get them to hit the ball weakly, especially on the ground, is said to pitch to contact. &#8220;Schilling has gone on the record as saying he&#8217;d like to pitch to contact more this season in an effort to reduce his pitch count and go deeper into games. Such an effort is likely to reduce the number of strikeouts he gets but in theory might provide quicker innings and faster games.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball_(P)#pitch_to_contact" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball_(P)#pitch_to_contact</a></p>
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		<title>By: racksie</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/08/ex-twins-prospect-dan-osterbrock-has-angry-words-for-team/comment-page-1/#comment-297615</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[racksie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 12:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guys hide injuries in low-A ball because they get cut rather than rehabbed. Especially when you are a SEVENTH round draft pick. He can blame the team, but in reality, it&#039;s hard to understand him, because his mouth is so full of sour grapes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys hide injuries in low-A ball because they get cut rather than rehabbed. Especially when you are a SEVENTH round draft pick. He can blame the team, but in reality, it&#8217;s hard to understand him, because his mouth is so full of sour grapes.</p>
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		<title>By: racksie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[racksie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 12:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liriano has been given every chance to succeed, and has failed miserably. Scott Baker has a history of injuries, and I&#039;m not sure how you blame the Twins, because he has a soft body.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liriano has been given every chance to succeed, and has failed miserably. Scott Baker has a history of injuries, and I&#8217;m not sure how you blame the Twins, because he has a soft body.</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 11:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve actually said some truly idiotic things ( as have I, btw) but in this instance you are exactly correct.

&quot;Pitch to contact&quot; means &quot;challenge the hitter&quot; to hit your best stuff. Don&#039;t futz around with pitches out of the strike zone in an attempt to &quot;avoid contact&quot; because ultimately if you get a reputation for throwing around the strikezone and not in the strikezone you will &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; get the borderline calls that pitchers who &quot;pitch to contact&quot; get.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve actually said some truly idiotic things ( as have I, btw) but in this instance you are exactly correct.</p>
<p>&#8220;Pitch to contact&#8221; means &#8220;challenge the hitter&#8221; to hit your best stuff. Don&#8217;t futz around with pitches out of the strike zone in an attempt to &#8220;avoid contact&#8221; because ultimately if you get a reputation for throwing around the strikezone and not in the strikezone you will <b>not</b> get the borderline calls that pitchers who &#8220;pitch to contact&#8221; get.</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 11:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IF that shoulder is healthy, I can think of at least one AL East team that will be interested.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF that shoulder is healthy, I can think of at least one AL East team that will be interested.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 10:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pitch to contact does not mean &#039;stop striking guys out&#039;.  

What it means is, stop throwing the ball 2-3 inches off the plate to try and get them to swing at outside pitches, which increases a pitchers walk total.

Pitch to contact means bring the ball back in over the plate to make the batter more likely to swing at it, so the defense makes the plays.  If the guy strikes out while up there, it&#039;s a bonus.

Pitching to contact has never meant stop striking someone out. It means use the entire field and defensive team to record outs instead of just the catcher.

Seriously, HBT should start making people take Baseball 101 quiz and pass it before they&#039;re allowed to register a user name.

People mock me for my username, becuase they don&#039;t have the intelligence to understand the meaning behind it. That&#039;s sad, because they are way more baseball idiots around here than me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pitch to contact does not mean &#8216;stop striking guys out&#8217;.  </p>
<p>What it means is, stop throwing the ball 2-3 inches off the plate to try and get them to swing at outside pitches, which increases a pitchers walk total.</p>
<p>Pitch to contact means bring the ball back in over the plate to make the batter more likely to swing at it, so the defense makes the plays.  If the guy strikes out while up there, it&#8217;s a bonus.</p>
<p>Pitching to contact has never meant stop striking someone out. It means use the entire field and defensive team to record outs instead of just the catcher.</p>
<p>Seriously, HBT should start making people take Baseball 101 quiz and pass it before they&#8217;re allowed to register a user name.</p>
<p>People mock me for my username, becuase they don&#8217;t have the intelligence to understand the meaning behind it. That&#8217;s sad, because they are way more baseball idiots around here than me.</p>
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		<title>By: baseballisboring</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baseballisboring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 05:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kinda sounds like this guy has a legitimate gripe. He succeeded in High-A, but as soon as he struggles in AA, which presumably was because of a shoulder in jury he probably had before the season started, they ditch him? Is he paying for the shoulder treatment out of his own pocket?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda sounds like this guy has a legitimate gripe. He succeeded in High-A, but as soon as he struggles in AA, which presumably was because of a shoulder in jury he probably had before the season started, they ditch him? Is he paying for the shoulder treatment out of his own pocket?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 04:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Twins turned him into a head case. Let&#039;s take a pitcher who struck out 10.71 per 9, and teach to &quot;pitch to contact.&quot; It&#039;s idiotic. His mechanics are obviously messed up, and his relationship with the team is awful. I&#039;m a Twins fan, and I hope for his sake they trade him somewhere where he can rebuild his career.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Twins turned him into a head case. Let&#8217;s take a pitcher who struck out 10.71 per 9, and teach to &#8220;pitch to contact.&#8221; It&#8217;s idiotic. His mechanics are obviously messed up, and his relationship with the team is awful. I&#8217;m a Twins fan, and I hope for his sake they trade him somewhere where he can rebuild his career.</p>
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		<title>By: rgledz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rgledz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 03:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really Ben?? What was the questionable treatment of Liriano??  He&#039;s the one who three years ago, following Tommy John surgery, ditched his rehab program......wouldn&#039;t do the arm strengthening exercises he was supposed to do and then showed up to camp late because of visa issues and was overweight.  He&#039;s got ability, but is a total head case. Please explain to me how that ends up being questionable treatment by the Twins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really Ben?? What was the questionable treatment of Liriano??  He&#8217;s the one who three years ago, following Tommy John surgery, ditched his rehab program&#8230;&#8230;wouldn&#8217;t do the arm strengthening exercises he was supposed to do and then showed up to camp late because of visa issues and was overweight.  He&#8217;s got ability, but is a total head case. Please explain to me how that ends up being questionable treatment by the Twins.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 03:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His reality coincides with some really questionable treatment of other starting pitchers, like Scott Baker and Francisco Liriano.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His reality coincides with some really questionable treatment of other starting pitchers, like Scott Baker and Francisco Liriano.</p>
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		<title>By: romoscollarbone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[romoscollarbone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 03:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#sarasm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#sarasm.</p>
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		<title>By: randygnyc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[randygnyc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 03:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His reality doesnt reconcile with the twins&#039; reality of staking their future on promoting/protecting their young talent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His reality doesnt reconcile with the twins&#8217; reality of staking their future on promoting/protecting their young talent.</p>
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