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Cole Hamels wants a seven-year deal

May 14, 2012, 2:31 PM EDT

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It’s being reported that Cole Hamels‘ agent is demanding a seven-year deal from the Phillies.

As The 700 Level discusses, that’s a big, long contract, though in Hamels’ case it may be the kind of commitment the Phillies need to make. And it’s certainly the case that  young, top-shelf lefties don’t come onto the market that often.

Still, I’m rather confused here.  One would think, given Hamels’ affinity for Old School Baseball, he’d prefer to sign a one-year deal for $45,000, subject to automatic renewal by the team via the reserve clause.

  1. pxeeks - May 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    Good info in the beginning, dumb paragraph in the end.

    • Ben - May 14, 2012 at 2:37 PM

      Nope, the dumb paragraph at the end is what I thought before I even clicked the article. Poor Cole Hamels, he’s become a joke.

    • number42is1 - May 14, 2012 at 3:01 PM

      good comment in the beginning, stupid comment in the end

    • Utley's Hair - May 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM

      Why would the paragraph be dumb? It’s a snarky, irreverent comment on a snarky, irreverent site, made by a snarky, irreverent blogger, on a snarky, irreverent blog, and based on an actual quote from the subject of the snarky, irreverent comment.

    • delawarephilliesfan - May 14, 2012 at 3:31 PM

      Craig has it backwards – that is Old School ownership. The Players never wanted to be paid like that

    • steeler999 - May 14, 2012 at 3:56 PM

      Why is it dumb? That was the first thought that hit me when I saw the headline. I kind of thought the last paragraph was said tongue-in-cheek. But Cole has no one to blame but himself for people thinking that way.

  2. Utley's Hair - May 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    While he might be open to the old school sort of contract, word is that Heidi isn’t it. So old school baseball doesn’t necessarily mean old school homelife.

    • Ben - May 14, 2012 at 2:47 PM

      If he needs extra scratch to buy Heidi a new Bentley he can go mine coal during the off season. That’s pretty old school.

  3. larryhockett - May 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    It’s either pay him now or duke it out with the Yanks and Red Sox for the highest priced free agents on the market in the coming years.

    • biasedhomer - May 14, 2012 at 3:05 PM

      The #1 threat to sign Hamels away from the Phils is not the Red Sox or Yankees, it is the Dodgers.

      • dodger88 - May 14, 2012 at 5:05 PM

        In theory yes, but in reality may be not:

        “I do have a philosophy that you grow arms and buy bats,” he said. “I think one of the biggest mistakes you can make is giving a long-term contract to a pitcher. With a batter, you have a better idea of what you’re getting. One of the best things you can do is develop young arms and have a stockpile.”

        That is Stan Kasten in a recent interview of ESPN’s Tony Jackson.

        I’d love to see Hamels in Dodger Blue but I doubt they’ll go 7 years and I can’t say I blame them.

      • 18thstreet - May 14, 2012 at 5:15 PM

        I completely agree with Kasten.

  4. straightcash844 - May 14, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    Hamels is BY FAR the least old school player in the league

    • paperlions - May 14, 2012 at 3:09 PM

      He is definitely in the bottom half in “old schoolness”…and definitely below Harper, who, despite all the talk about him being an arrogant punk, plays baseball very old school…all out, all the time.

      • heyblueyoustink - May 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM

        As well as plunking himself in the head with a bat

      • Utley's Hair - May 14, 2012 at 3:53 PM

        Except when he knocks himself out with a bat bouncing off a wall against his head—I’m pretty sure nobody did that. Though I might be wrong about that….

      • paperlions - May 14, 2012 at 4:21 PM

        Hopefully, the nick name that emerged from that incident (Bam Bam) sticks.

      • sasquash20 - May 14, 2012 at 4:41 PM

        Cole doesn’t go all out all the time?

    • sasquash20 - May 14, 2012 at 4:40 PM

      Cole is a beast. He has had bad run support over the past 2 years and never complains about it. He works his butt off all year. Doesn’t get hurt, and pitches far into games. He throw at a 19 year old punk who acts like he invented baseball. That is old school for athletes of today. Cole is one of the best pitchers in baseball today.

  5. El Bravo - May 14, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    Well played, Mr. Calcaterra.

  6. illcomm - May 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    he will get 25 per year from someone over 7, but it won’t be the Phils. if he holds out n does not accept a five year offer, he will be traded at the deadline n oswalt will be picked up.

    • chadjones27 - May 14, 2012 at 3:39 PM

      I had to thumbs down for the fact you think they’ll pick up Oswalt. No way.

  7. heyblueyoustink - May 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    I’m not totally against trading him if they can get the right bat, even if resigning him would be preferable.

  8. kevinleaptrot - May 14, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Hopefully the Phils sign him for seven years at ridiculous money and then he goes Barry Zito on them. It’ll be fun watching the Nats and the rest of the NL East going old school on him.

    • biasedhomer - May 14, 2012 at 3:07 PM

      Well, Hamels is not the same as Zito. Zito was clearly not the same pitcher he was before when he signed that deal. Hamels on the other hand, seems to be improving, currently having a career year. Zito peaked in his 3rd season.

  9. buffalomafia - May 14, 2012 at 2:57 PM

    He isn’t worth it right?

    • chiadam - May 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM

      Right. The days of the gigantic, expensive, crippling, long-term, life-sucking contracts are coming to an end (unless you’re the idiot Angels). They just don’t pan out far more often than they do. Pujols is the latest piece of evidence. Fielder will be another in about two or three years.

      • chadjones27 - May 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM

        The whole Pujols thing has to be an aberration. There’s no way anyone could have legitimately thought he’d have such a down year after signing. It’s one thing to regress after signing a big contract, but, this is completely worse.

      • Utley's Hair - May 14, 2012 at 3:54 PM

        Vernon Wells and Chone Figgins thank him, though.

  10. xmatt0926x - May 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    The funny thing is that it wasn’t long ago that the Phillies wouldn’t go more than 3 years for a pitcher. Who know’s anymore. Three years ago I’d say there’s no way the Phillies would go 7 years on a pitcher but after spending a generation with them as a bottom barrel , low payroll team and seeing the large payroll monster they have become it’s hard to say what rules they have for themselves anymore. They made a big deal about going 5 years for Lee when they signed him last year. It was like a huge threshold that they went over. I hope they sign him as a fan but something tells me that unless the Phillies become competitive in the division race by July that he’s gone. I’d rather them trade Halladay or Lee and keep Hamels. I just don’t see how it’s possible to keep all 3. If Hamels gets about $25 million a year you’d have him, Halladay, Lee, Howard , Utley, Papelbon, and Rollins at about $140 million. That’s not even talking about Victorino or Pence who are a couple of the few decent offensive pieces you have.

  11. kpbpa - May 14, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    pxeeks: thumbs ups.

  12. drunkenhooliganism - May 14, 2012 at 3:22 PM

    That’s the same agent comment that got Cliff Lee traded for 2 cents on the dollar.

    I think Rubes needs to go old school on Cole’s agent and teach him a lesson and trade him for someone’s 14th, 23rd and 109th best prospects

  13. dawglb - May 14, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    He knows that when negotiations take place you have to give up some of your requests/demands. He is asking for 7, knowing the Phillies will offer 4,…..only to settle for 5 years. If he asked for 5, the Phillies would offer 3, and he’d get 4 years….. It’s all a game, within the game.

    • 18thstreet - May 14, 2012 at 5:16 PM

      What are you, a magician?

      NO WAY JOHNNY DAMON DESERVES TO GO TO THE HALL OF FAME!

    • xmatt0926x - May 14, 2012 at 5:31 PM

      I’m not sure about that dawglb. He’s an ace lefty and he’s young. Those guys get 7 years unless there has been a huge change in the game in the past couple seasons. Not many teams would do it but a few will and he knows it. The Yankees wouldn’t do that deal? This is a team asking Andy Pettite to come back and has had retreads Bartolo Colon and Garcia in their rotation last year and this year. Yeah, they’d do it.

  14. lanflfan - May 14, 2012 at 3:43 PM

    I’d like to make millions and never work again; we don’t always get what we want.

    Still, someone will overpay for Hamels. If not Philly then someone else desperate for pitching.

  15. chadjones27 - May 14, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    I’m not so sure that Phillies ownership will be willing to part with $25mil for 5, 6, or 7 years anymore. They’ve been spending lately and it seems the team is getting worse. I’m not so sure any other team would invest that much (7 years/ $25mil per) in a pitcher. But, weirder crap has happened.

  16. thephilsabide - May 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    Old school or not, he still has pitched better than most the past few seasons. Man’s gonna get paid.

  17. sasquash20 - May 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    Trade anyone else on the team away and keep Cole. He is an stud pitcher, a WS MVP, and he is just entering his prime. Trade Doc to Toronto (I think he would wave his no trade clause to go back, they have a solid team now) get prospects maybe T.d’Arnaud and another solid prospect, trade Lee to Boston try and get MiddleBrooks and a another solid prospect, trade Victorino for prospects. Cole won me a WS, him and Howard are the two most important guys from that season and I want both to be Phillies for their whole careers.

  18. randygnyc - May 14, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    “I can’t wait for it to end. It’s been mentally draining”. Cole Hammels-2009 world series

    Lest no one forgets that he quit on his teammates, fans and his city when they needed him most. Once a quitter, always a quitter.

    • sasquash20 - May 14, 2012 at 7:22 PM

      He was talking about his struggles for that season. Not the team you douche bag. Calling him a quitter is off base and wrong.

  19. eagles512 - May 14, 2012 at 6:23 PM

    Old school joke is beyond old.

  20. uyf1950 - May 14, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    Hamels won’t be 29 until next December. A 7 year deal means he’ll be pitching the final year of that contract just after he turns 35 years old. There probably will be at least 1 team willing to go 7 years/$23MM per IF he continues on the year he is having so far. That would be identical to the contract CC originally signed with the Yankees the winter of 2008/09 at almost exactly the same age.
    I don’t think the Yankees would be interested but the Red Sox certainly might be. Especially if they could move Beckett who will only have 2 years left on his deal after this year. Very interesting, very interesting indeed.

  21. randygnyc - May 14, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    “what are you doing here, I thought you quit”
    Brett Myers, (cole Hammels teammate), after game 4, 2009 world series.

    I’m not the only one.

  22. phillyphan83 - May 14, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    they’re not getting worse you idiots, they’ve been without 3 all-stars all season. Look at your own team, do you even have 3 all stars? how do you think YOUR team would be doing right now with that situation? Idiots. Phils will have the best record in baseball post-allstar break as long as everyone is back.

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