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	<title>Comments on: MLB officially suspends Juan Carlos Oviedo for eight weeks</title>
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		<title>By: 5thbase</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/28/mlb-officially-suspends-juan-carlos-oviedo-for-eight-weeks/comment-page-1/#comment-308190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[5thbase]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 20:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If my employer found out I had intentionally lied to them about the very nature of who I was, I would not get any kind of suspension.  I would be fired outright.

Not sure why modern people are so outraged by consequence.  Or are we just so arrogant that we think these non-white &quot;children&quot; don&#039;t know right from wrong?  If he doesn&#039;t know first grade level morality better than that he probably should not be able to get a visa and he definitely should not get the privilege of playing baseball here.  Obviously he knew it was wrong all along, he got busted, now he&#039;s paying the price and word will get out in the DR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If my employer found out I had intentionally lied to them about the very nature of who I was, I would not get any kind of suspension.  I would be fired outright.</p>
<p>Not sure why modern people are so outraged by consequence.  Or are we just so arrogant that we think these non-white &#8220;children&#8221; don&#8217;t know right from wrong?  If he doesn&#8217;t know first grade level morality better than that he probably should not be able to get a visa and he definitely should not get the privilege of playing baseball here.  Obviously he knew it was wrong all along, he got busted, now he&#8217;s paying the price and word will get out in the DR.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 00:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry about that, Randy. The way you phrased the final sentence of your initial response - ie, as opposed to writing, say, &quot;&lt;i&gt;Bud probably thinks&lt;/i&gt; excessive punishment&quot; etc. - looked to me like you were expressing your own point of view.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about that, Randy. The way you phrased the final sentence of your initial response &#8211; ie, as opposed to writing, say, &#8220;<i>Bud probably thinks</i> excessive punishment&#8221; etc. &#8211; looked to me like you were expressing your own point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: randygnyc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[randygnyc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 23:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gator-  I didn&#039;t say I agree with bud, just what his likely impetus is here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gator-  I didn&#8217;t say I agree with bud, just what his likely impetus is here.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/28/mlb-officially-suspends-juan-carlos-oviedo-for-eight-weeks/comment-page-1/#comment-307663</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 22:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Randy: I doubt it. An impoverished Dominican kid will gladly risk putting a few million in his pocket before getting nailed, if he ever does. You&#039;ve had two &quot;unmaskings,&quot; one - Oviedo&#039;s - effectively voluntary - out of Buddha knows how many that got away with it.

The &lt;i&gt;best&lt;/i&gt; way to put a stop to this behavior is to put a stop to the officially sanctioned exploitation of underage ballplayers by MLB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy: I doubt it. An impoverished Dominican kid will gladly risk putting a few million in his pocket before getting nailed, if he ever does. You&#8217;ve had two &#8220;unmaskings,&#8221; one &#8211; Oviedo&#8217;s &#8211; effectively voluntary &#8211; out of Buddha knows how many that got away with it.</p>
<p>The <i>best</i> way to put a stop to this behavior is to put a stop to the officially sanctioned exploitation of underage ballplayers by MLB.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/28/mlb-officially-suspends-juan-carlos-oviedo-for-eight-weeks/comment-page-1/#comment-307662</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 22:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because Bud feels the need to be Judge Roy Bean - who, &lt;i&gt;unlike&lt;/i&gt; Bud, was not a complete asshole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because Bud feels the need to be Judge Roy Bean &#8211; who, <i>unlike</i> Bud, was not a complete asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/28/mlb-officially-suspends-juan-carlos-oviedo-for-eight-weeks/comment-page-1/#comment-307644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 21:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What he did  was a federal violation, not a baseball one. The Department of Justice chose not to punish him at all. Why does Bud feel the need to be Judge Roy Bean?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What he did  was a federal violation, not a baseball one. The Department of Justice chose not to punish him at all. Why does Bud feel the need to be Judge Roy Bean?</p>
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		<title>By: randygnyc</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/28/mlb-officially-suspends-juan-carlos-oviedo-for-eight-weeks/comment-page-1/#comment-307627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[randygnyc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 20:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deterrent.  MLB is afraid this fraud is going to become even more prevalent in the future.  Excessive punishment may make people think otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deterrent.  MLB is afraid this fraud is going to become even more prevalent in the future.  Excessive punishment may make people think otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmymarlinsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimmymarlinsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 20:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Totally agreed...at least Heath Bell pitched well today to nail down the save]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agreed&#8230;at least Heath Bell pitched well today to nail down the save</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 19:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been trying to figure out the logic of this suspension. Deterrent? Well, what&#039;s the likelihood of Oviedo faking his name and age again anyway? Punishment? For what - circumventing an inherently unfair and abusive practice by agents and major league teams for signing, in effect, children who don&#039;t generally know any better? Eight weeks? Effectively, the same fifty games a guy would get for squirting himself up? When he&#039;s already missed most of a season already due to the criminal penalties involved?

It&#039;s &lt;i&gt;bullshit&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been trying to figure out the logic of this suspension. Deterrent? Well, what&#8217;s the likelihood of Oviedo faking his name and age again anyway? Punishment? For what &#8211; circumventing an inherently unfair and abusive practice by agents and major league teams for signing, in effect, children who don&#8217;t generally know any better? Eight weeks? Effectively, the same fifty games a guy would get for squirting himself up? When he&#8217;s already missed most of a season already due to the criminal penalties involved?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s <i>bullshit</i>.</p>
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