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Report: The Red Sox “definitely intend” to trade Kevin Youkilis

Jun 1, 2012, 11:34 AM EDT

UPDATE: Now Reds GM Ben Cherington denies the report. Color me skeptical.

11:34 AMWe heard some rumblings a week or two ago that the Red Sox could conceivably trade Kevin Youkilis. But this sounds like more than mere consideration:

Youkilis is hitting .250/.318/.406 in limited play this year. Though he is hitting well — .313./.371/.531 with two homers — since coming off the DL.

When we heard those rumblings, the word was that he needed a couple of weeks of good play to be truly marketable. Well, he’s had them. So I guess now he’ll be marketed.

  1. c4nnon - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    Philly needs a right handed bat especially with the limited run support we give pitchers like cliff lee lately

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM


      • biasedhomer - Jun 1, 2012 at 8:15 PM

        They could use Youk. Look at LF and 3B, 2 positions that should provide above average power, who do the Phillies have? Polonco and Pierre, both of whom will combine for less than 10 HRs.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 1, 2012 at 8:24 PM

        Yes, then he will be on the DL in a month and the Phillies will be over the luxury tax. Then, they will be screwed next season when the HAVE to go over the luxury tax….the escalating penalties is the issue. It would be incredibly short sighted and would reek of panic.

  2. drmonkeyarmy - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    I know what you are thinking RAJ and no….please do not give whatever prospects you have left for an aging, high priced veteran. Please.

    • Jonny 5 - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:43 AM

      AMEN! Preach!

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:08 PM

        You two are nuts. Granted it would depend on what RAJ would have to give up. But Youk in this town? Shoot, he is Hunter Pence with more skill. This town would freaking love Youk and the way he plays.

      • Ari Collins - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:15 PM

        Agreed with Chris. This is a team built to win in the next year or two after which the reckoning will come. Might as well maximize the chances of winning another championship with the current Phillies’ core. You don’t hold onto a prospect that might help you a lot a couple years from now when you’ve already mortgaged the future for this current roster.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:17 PM

        Don’t need another injury prone 32 year old….also pushes the team over the luxury tax threshold. No big deal this year but with the escalating penalties, would be an issue next season when they are bound to go over.

      • b7p19 - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:46 PM

        Ari is absolutely right. God for it now because in a couple of years it’ll be ugly anyway. Win as much as possible right now. Youk would make the Phillies my favorite in East again.

      • Jonny 5 - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:50 PM

        The only way I could justify it would be if Howard is going to be useless all season and they want Youk playing 1st.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:27 PM

        Dr…Polanco + Youkilis = 1 healthy solid 3B. Don’t you agree?

        J5, wouldn’t Youk be a pretty nice insurance policy in case The Big Piece doesn’t get all the way back this year? And even if he does…Youk is the ultimate utility guy. And he plays as hard as Chase Utley…and we all know how much this town worships Utley.

        Look, I’m not saying empty out the minors. If the Red Sox want too much, then they can keep him. But a prospect or two at the bottom half of our top 10 would be just fine with me…especially since they are all in A ball anyway.

      • Old Gator - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:35 PM

        Eh. With a face like that, they need to unload him before the Halloween trading deadline.

      • js20011041 - Jun 1, 2012 at 2:07 PM

        Cool joke. I enjoyed it even more the second time.

      • Old Gator - Jun 1, 2012 at 2:55 PM

        I knew you would. WordPress can be odd sometimes – you post something, it doesn’t show up for hours, you re-post it and the original post comes up an hour after that. I bet they stopped and opened it on a random basis to see if it contained drugs or Semtex.

      • Jonny 5 - Jun 1, 2012 at 3:03 PM

        Chris, I wouldn’t pick him up just to help with 3B. But if Howard is finished for the season, I’d have to be an idiot to not want Youk to cover 1st. He’s a good player and he get’s paid like one which also has to be considered.

      • drewsylvania - Jun 1, 2012 at 3:38 PM

        Wouldn’t even cost that much, since Youk is a rental.

    • skerney - Jun 1, 2012 at 4:17 PM

      The Phillies have prospects left? Don’t tell Rube.

  3. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    The White Sox have been desperate for a 3B and an #2 hitter. Youk would look awfully good hitting in front of Dunn and Konerko.

    • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:09 PM

      Good point – makes even more sense than Philly.

    • jlovenotjlo - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:15 PM

      I’ve been calling for this since these rumors started. Oh man KW, make this happen!

    • hammyofdoom - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:56 PM

      …That makes a boat load of sense. I hadn’t even thought about the White Sox going after Youk, but isn’t their minor leagues kind of barren right now?

      • jlovenotjlo - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:31 PM

        Youk is only signed through the end of the season. The Red Sox would not be expecting too much for Youk as a result of this, but the White Sox do have some decent Outfielders on the farm:

        Greg Golson, Jordan Danks (287/.407/.468 right now), even Dan Johnson and the currently injured Conor Jackson could be guys that Boston would maybe have interest in. So… does Boston need an extra outfielder or two? I hope so

      • mornelithe - Jun 1, 2012 at 2:03 PM

        Sox aren’t in need of OF currently, they’re in need of the 8 million OF’s they have on DL getting healthy. Sox need consistent pitching, imo. And maybe…_maybe_ a backup SS. Pedroia’s awesome, but having Punto as a backup is like having Beckett be your DH. Almost a certain out, or double play (excluding the occasional 400 foot single).

      • dadawg77 - Jun 1, 2012 at 3:21 PM

        mornelithe, Sox don’t have OF on the DL. Actually they have a 3B on the DL who Youk can replace.

      • mornelithe - Jun 1, 2012 at 3:40 PM

        @Dadawg: Are you out of your mind? The Red Sox currently have:

        Cody Ross LF
        Darnell McDonald LF
        Jason Repko CF
        Jacoby Ellsbury CF
        Ryan Kalish LF
        Carl Crawford LF

        All on the DL. Youkilis _was_ their 3B, Will Middlebrooks was called up as HIS replacement, he was given the night off yesterday, so that Youk and Gonzo can have days off during the upcoming Jays series.

      • mornelithe - Jun 1, 2012 at 3:55 PM

        @Dadawg: The only personnel the Red Sox HAVE on the DL are Outfielder’s and Pitchers. As stated above 7 of the 12 people currently on the DL for them are OF, the other 5 are Pitchers:

        Chris Carpenter
        Andrew Bailey
        Daisuke Matsuzaka (He’s on rehab in Pawtucket now, so not technically on the DL)
        John Lackey
        Aaron Cooke
        Bobby Jenks

        And because Aceves has been doing so well (as well as the middle relief), Mark Melancon is still in AAA, likely because he had an ERA of ~48 after getting shelled in his last Majors outting.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jun 2, 2012 at 12:00 AM

        How much can Boston really expect for an injury prone 35 year old?

  4. eaglesfan723 - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Good article…very informative…..thanks Craig!

  5. fhuizar - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:44 AM


    • SmackSaw - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:35 PM

      Yep. Torii Hunter straight up.

  6. danaking - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    My first thought was Pittsburgh: Yes! Power and a good OBA. Then I remmebered how old Youkilis is. He won;t be around when the Pirates’ young players mature, so he’s not worth giving up prospects.

    He’ll definitely help someone.

  7. Jack Marshall - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:47 AM

    Trade for what? Not bullpen. Starters? The Sox aren’t dumping Lester, Beckett or Buchholtz. Doubront has been the best starter, and they seem unwilling to move Bard into the bullpen. They are stuck with Crawford, and the platoon in right (Sweeney and Ross) look like they will be just fine. Catching is deep—the Sox already have a young stud at AAA that they can’t use. It’s not like Youk is a liability—and Middlebrooks has been erratic in the field.

    They may indeed trade him, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

    • Ari Collins - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:12 PM

      Probably they’d trade him for prospects.

      My guess would be high-upside low-minors prospects, possibly even throwing someone else from the 40-man in. There’s quite a roster crunch, and, like you said, it’s a hard roster to upgrade. Prospects, though, could help the future teams, or be traded for someone who will.

      The system most needs pitching and MIF prospects, but you don’t really trade for need, prospect-wise.

      • ltzep75 - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:38 PM

        Am I the only one who read “MILF prospects” in Ari’s comment the first go-around?

  8. petercrammons2004 - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM

    I would think Phillies, Reds, Dodgers, and San Fran would all have some degree of interest? Right? Makes sense for the Sox. Middlebrooks is ready, Gonzo playing in right is just a disaster waiting to happen (though he has been OK out there), and there is no way they are picking up Youk’s $13M option for next year. Might as well make the move now. Just need to make sure they get something in return (a young arm, preferably).

  9. Old Gator - Jun 1, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    The time to trade a face like that is at the Halloween deadline.

    • hammyofdoom - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:53 PM

      He looks like someone beat Todd Helton with an ugly stick until he died for a minute and was revived afterwards. Seriously.

      • Old Gator - Jun 1, 2012 at 2:54 PM

        Was that him out there on the Romero Causeway last weekend? The one getting eaten, I mean….

      • mornelithe - Jun 1, 2012 at 4:19 PM

        Boy, that sure is funny Gator. A homeless guy getting his face eaten off is just hilarious, isn’t it?

    • paddles57 - Jun 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM

      Let’s see your picture.

  10. WhenMattStairsIsKing - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    Philly makes the most sense. I think it’s definitely time for a Boston roster shakeup.

    • psousa1 - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:55 PM

      they have won 14 out of 19…………………

  11. BLEED BOSTON - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Reblogged this on BLEED BOSTON and commented:
    Good move I think. Only a matter of time before his back, neck, thigh, or hamstring starts to hurt. Guy is a MASH until waiting to happen. Let him show his worth and trade for young starting pitching.

    • xavier46 - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM

      “MASH *unit* waiting to happen”

      That may be the dumbest phrase ever written on HBT, well not really, but close.

      I guess we’re all just a death waiting to happen.


      • ltzep75 - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:39 PM

        How quickly we forget Bicepts commentary…

      • xavier46 - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:48 PM


      • BLEED BOSTON - Jun 1, 2012 at 5:31 PM

        No, like how a MASH unit is a functional hospital is a war zone, you do not go to a MASH unit to die. Jackass. Youk is just an injury waiting to happen. Not too hard to figure out unless you aren’ that smart to begin with.

  12. sabatimus - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    “Red Sox” are telling people….WHO? The GM? Lucchino? I fricking HATE this unnamed source crap that pervades the majority of sports proclamations.

  13. deathmonkey41 - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM

    The dude is a shell of his former self. Who is seriously going to trade for him and help out the Red Sox?

    • mornelithe - Jun 1, 2012 at 2:08 PM

      I think that’s a pretty insulting judgement of the guy, Youk’s a Golden Glove at 1B and 3B, he’s relatively solid from the plate (when he gets going…granted, his productivity prior to the injury wasn’t anything to write home about…but he’s been much better since he came back). Youk’s _only_ problem right now is maintaining his health. And the Red Sox would absolutely be keeping him, IF, Will Middlebrook’s wasn’t producing on Offense and Defense like he has been.

      Gotta remember, the only reason they’re even talking of trading him, is because of WMB. It has nothing to do with Youk’s injuries…let’s be honest, the Red Sox have injuries _everywhere_ on their roster.

      • deathmonkey41 - Jun 1, 2012 at 2:54 PM

        How is it insulting? He’s not what he used to be because of age and injuries. I don’t think anyone can watch tape of the guy and think he’s the same player he even was two years ago. It happens to everyone. I know why the Red Sox want to trade him- I’m asking who is going to trade FOR him?

      • mornelithe - Jun 1, 2012 at 3:44 PM

        How is it insulting? By saying he’s a shell of his former self, maybe? Youk’s only serious problem is his injuries, his production at the plate since he’s been back from the DL has been commensurate to his past seasons. I agree that the beginning of the year for Youk at the plate, wasn’t great, but as I said, he’s picked it up since. And his Defense at 1B and 3B has got to be attractive to some teams.

        But, that’s not for me to decide, I’m not a major league club manager, I’m sure he’s an upgrade for some teams, at least as a backup, if not full-time. I just think calling him a ‘shell’ of his former self is a bit much.

      • BLEED BOSTON - Jun 1, 2012 at 5:44 PM

        Games played 2012 has not eclipsed 140 starts in 3 years? Prior to that 3 full seasons with 140+ starts. That is not a good trend for an aging slugger. His numbers suggest his power numbers are declining slightly with .300 BA every year except for 258 last year and 250 so far this year.. Again not a good sign.

  14. fraleyr - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    come on home to cincy big kev!!

  15. hittfamily - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    Would Youk and a B prospect be too little for Neftali? Seems to be good for both sides. Neftali is the Rangers 6th starter, or set up man. He would be #3 or closer in Beantown.

    • wlschneider09 - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:55 PM

      I would think the Rangers would want more.

  16. hammyofdoom - Jun 1, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    Youk won’t put up an OPS of high .9’s like he did from 08-10, but in 120 games this year he can hit over 20 home runs, get on base at a very good clip and probably hit somewhere around .280. Just because he isn’t as good as he used to be does not mean he’s not still valuable to someone out there. He won’t be worth an A+ prospect or anything, but as long as it gets Adrian Gonzalez out of the goddamn outfield it’s worth it for the Red Sox

    • mornelithe - Jun 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM

      Gonzo’s played pretty damn good defense in the OF, the only time I’ve seen him miss a play was a blooper that most outfielder’s would have to push pretty hard to get. Not that I prefer to see him in the OF lol, after all he is a GG at 1B, but he’s not an awful OF either.

  17. shanabartels - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    This is coming from a die-hard Yankees fan who does not care for Youkilis or the Red Sox (to say the least), so feel free to take it with a grain of salt, but if there’s any truth to these rumors at all, it kind of bothers me from an organizational standpoint. Youkilis is a homegrown player — he’s the second-longest tenured player on the team, behind David Ortiz who is not a product of the Red Sox farm system. I know these things aren’t supposed to matter anymore, and maybe it’s because I’m a Yankees fan that I romanticize the idea of someone sticking with one team for his entire career. I have extended family members who live up in New England and root for the Red Sox. I know Youkilis is a fan favorite. I may not like the guy or his team, but I know damn well that a lot of people in New England would be sad to see him go.

    Obviously this says nothing about actual baseball reasons to trade the guy or a potential landing spot where he might be needed. Other people have discussed all that. I just know my aunt and uncle wouldn’t be the only people who would be very disappointed to see Youkilis playing for some other team.

    • skeleteeth - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:29 PM

      If they, as an organization, can trade Nomar amidst a playoff run, they can trade Youk.

      • deathmonkey41 - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:39 PM

        The bigger question is can you trade a guy who’s batting .250, has 4HR, and 12 RBI?

    • Victor's Secret - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:32 PM

      Agreed. I’ll miss Youk, and sad to see him go. Ultimately though, the Sox have a business to run, and they’ve done a good job at not letting letting feelings interfere with how they run things.

      I was sad to see Nomar go as well, but his trade paved the way for better things to come. Similarly, we’ve refused to overpay for our superstar fan favorites, and almost all of the decisions have worked out well for the overall team.

      If Youk’s trade makes us a better team, then ultimately I’m for it. I just really, really, really hope that they don’t trash him on the way out of town. I’ve almost quit being a Sox fan multiple times over the last few years based on how the stars are blasted on their way out.

  18. knicksjetsyankees - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    Wow this guy has been nutin but great for the red sox. Question who the hell going to play 3rd

    • xavier46 - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM

      Just some dude named Will Middlebrooks… If you haven’t heard, where have you been?

    • mornelithe - Jun 1, 2012 at 2:12 PM

      Yeah, Xavier hit the nail on the head there. The only reason Youk being traded is even remotely a discussion is because Will Middlebrooks has been playing damn well at 3rd for the Sox. Great power, great defense, can run on bases (though he’s not a speed demon or anything), and is younger.

      Bottom line is Youk is getting older, Gonzo’s the better 1B and batter, and WMB has shown he can easily replace Youk on the team.

  19. psousa1 - Jun 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    Said it once and will say it again. This may be the absolute worst era of sports journalism and journalism in general. The Worst. So who exactly said they are shopping Youkilis? A source? Well nowadays you don’t have to stand behind your work. Just say an ‘Unnamed source’. Just so stupid.
    Craig – get a filter

  20. buffalomafia - Jun 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    Atlanta needs a 3rd baseman!

  21. buffalomafia - Jun 1, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    Hello I said Cheap ass Atlanta needs a 3rd baseman!

    You can’t depend on the always injured HOF’er Chipper Jones?!

  22. rico7207 - Jun 1, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    As soon as yesterday we hope!!!!

  23. buffalomafia - Jun 1, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    Wtf! What about Atlanta getting Youk?

    They need another power bat with Chipper always hurt?

    Why does it seem like Atlanta drops the ball on trying to get good help?

  24. T Pot - Jun 1, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    “Now Reds GM Ben Cherington denies the report.”

    -Walt Jocketty may be surprised that he is no longer the Reds GM. –

    Doubt it would happen but I would like to see the Reds do this. Their biggest weakness right now is a lackluster bench. Rolen is done and Youk could play 3B. Frazier has done well of late but Youk is better. Frazier would be great off the bench and plays LF as well. Improves the lineup, 3B, and the bench.

  25. buffalomafia - Jun 1, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    @bleed Boston- red sox suck! Go yankees!

    Bobby V will get fired!

    Youk to Pirates, Giants,Reds or cheap ass Braves!

    Let’s go Yankees! RedSox Suck!

    • BLEED BOSTON - Jun 4, 2012 at 12:13 PM

      Most coaches get fired! That’s not a prediction. Thats like me saying one day you will die. Girardi shouldn’t feel good about his job either. Young Steinbrenner is an idiot. I’d rather have our ownership than yours. Yanks suck with no bullpen and unreliable starting pitching. AND The future looks bright I mean look at joba, and phil hughes you guys are set-up to suck for years to come and I cannot wait to watch it all happen.

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