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	<title>Comments on: First-round winners and losers from the MLB draft</title>
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		<title>By: fivetoolmike</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, absolutely; that doesn&#039;t change the fact he shouldn&#039;t be categorized &quot;pure reliever.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, absolutely; that doesn&#8217;t change the fact he shouldn&#8217;t be categorized &#8220;pure reliever.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re interested in this sort of thing, here are the 1 and 1-S picks with their &quot;advisors&quot;:
http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2012/06/05/2012-mlb-draft-round-1-advisorsplayers-list/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re interested in this sort of thing, here are the 1 and 1-S picks with their &#8220;advisors&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2012/06/05/2012-mlb-draft-round-1-advisorsplayers-list/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2012/06/05/2012-mlb-draft-round-1-advisorsplayers-list/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ari Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ari Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, Harry. You never let facts get in the way of a good trashing, do you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Harry. You never let facts get in the way of a good trashing, do you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ari Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 20:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marrerro was seen by many to be a mid-first-round talent in this draft, so him falling to the Sox is actually a minor steal. He doesn&#039;t have a high ceiling, but is very likely an average ML shortstop, which is nothing to sneeze at. Yes, you might get more upside at #24 in a regular draft, but this draft was fairly weak (while last year&#039;s was the strongest since &#039;05). Most teams who didn&#039;t have a top ten pick did not have strong drafts when you compare them to past years.

They also got an extra sandwich or second-round talent in the fourth round with Ty Buttrey. It was a strong draft considering their draft position and the overall quality of the class.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marrerro was seen by many to be a mid-first-round talent in this draft, so him falling to the Sox is actually a minor steal. He doesn&#8217;t have a high ceiling, but is very likely an average ML shortstop, which is nothing to sneeze at. Yes, you might get more upside at #24 in a regular draft, but this draft was fairly weak (while last year&#8217;s was the strongest since &#8217;05). Most teams who didn&#8217;t have a top ten pick did not have strong drafts when you compare them to past years.</p>
<p>They also got an extra sandwich or second-round talent in the fourth round with Ty Buttrey. It was a strong draft considering their draft position and the overall quality of the class.</p>
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		<title>By: aglumac</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a long time suffering Pirates fan there is some substantial hope on the horizon for the first time in forever. Much of it the last few years was false hope, but at this point it seams very real.  The Buccos are only 3 or 4 games out of first, and over .500, with a lot of talented pitching in the minor league system. Cole, Taillon, Heridia, and now Appel, if at least two of those guys become top of the rotation fixtures, it will be a huge asset to the organization.  They have a few position players in Marte, Grossman, and Bell, that are exciting too, plus the C they took in the 2nd was supposedly the 2nd best catching prospect in the draft, after a good start Sanchez, a former 1st rounder has fallen out of favor. I hope Boras, who has represented Pirate 1sts before--Cole, realises that his leverage isnt the same as it was in the past.  I envy the Nats, they grabbed the guy that I think was the biggest risk reward with Giolito.  He and D.Bundy from last year may make the Bucs wish they took a different course, here is to hoping that they dont lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long time suffering Pirates fan there is some substantial hope on the horizon for the first time in forever. Much of it the last few years was false hope, but at this point it seams very real.  The Buccos are only 3 or 4 games out of first, and over .500, with a lot of talented pitching in the minor league system. Cole, Taillon, Heridia, and now Appel, if at least two of those guys become top of the rotation fixtures, it will be a huge asset to the organization.  They have a few position players in Marte, Grossman, and Bell, that are exciting too, plus the C they took in the 2nd was supposedly the 2nd best catching prospect in the draft, after a good start Sanchez, a former 1st rounder has fallen out of favor. I hope Boras, who has represented Pirate 1sts before&#8211;Cole, realises that his leverage isnt the same as it was in the past.  I envy the Nats, they grabbed the guy that I think was the biggest risk reward with Giolito.  He and D.Bundy from last year may make the Bucs wish they took a different course, here is to hoping that they dont lol.</p>
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		<title>By: wlschneider09</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry&#039;s a long time member of Trolls Inc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry&#8217;s a long time member of Trolls Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: Cris E</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cris E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I&#039;m in Pittsburgh I just leave a message for Scott B saying I&#039;m going to start signing guys Monday and whoever gets to the money first can have it. Sign a couple middle rounders for $75000 to tighten up the budget and throw down a slot-plus-25% opener.  If he holds out just say two first rounders next year is better than one overpriced guy this year and none next year and sign another late rounder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m in Pittsburgh I just leave a message for Scott B saying I&#8217;m going to start signing guys Monday and whoever gets to the money first can have it. Sign a couple middle rounders for $75000 to tighten up the budget and throw down a slot-plus-25% opener.  If he holds out just say two first rounders next year is better than one overpriced guy this year and none next year and sign another late rounder.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Put the jays and their entire organization down as the biggest losers, you will never hear from any of the guys they drafted again after today.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jared (CT)  Guesses on first guy from this class to make the majors?
Klaw  (1:20 PM)  Marcus Stroman. Gets there this year.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/44021

22. Toronto Blue Jays: Marcus Stroman, RHP, Duke
Stroman seemed to be the Plan B player for any number of teams in front of this pick, and this could be a steal here. If the Blue Jays sign him quickly and commit to a bullpen role, Stroman could be pitching important big league innings by September.

Kevin Goldstein - http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=17250

Stroman gets strikeouts both with his fastball, which sits 92-94 mph, and he has added a changeup and cutter in the last year as he evolved from an infielder/closer into a starter. He always has had his wipeout slider that can make hitters look silly. He should be one of the fastest players to the majors in this year&#039;s class, and some scouts think he can start. But they all know he can be a big league reliever in short order.

John Manuel - Baseball America - http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2012/06/toronto-makes-marcus-stroman-dukes-first-first-rounder/


So which scouting organization do you work for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Put the jays and their entire organization down as the biggest losers, you will never hear from any of the guys they drafted again after today.</p></blockquote>
<p>Jared (CT)  Guesses on first guy from this class to make the majors?<br />
Klaw  (1:20 PM)  Marcus Stroman. Gets there this year.</p>
<p><a href="http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/44021" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/44021</a></p>
<p>22. Toronto Blue Jays: Marcus Stroman, RHP, Duke<br />
Stroman seemed to be the Plan B player for any number of teams in front of this pick, and this could be a steal here. If the Blue Jays sign him quickly and commit to a bullpen role, Stroman could be pitching important big league innings by September.</p>
<p>Kevin Goldstein &#8211; <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=17250" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=17250</a></p>
<p>Stroman gets strikeouts both with his fastball, which sits 92-94 mph, and he has added a changeup and cutter in the last year as he evolved from an infielder/closer into a starter. He always has had his wipeout slider that can make hitters look silly. He should be one of the fastest players to the majors in this year&#8217;s class, and some scouts think he can start. But they all know he can be a big league reliever in short order.</p>
<p>John Manuel &#8211; Baseball America &#8211; <a href="http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2012/06/toronto-makes-marcus-stroman-dukes-first-first-rounder/" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2012/06/toronto-makes-marcus-stroman-dukes-first-first-rounder/</a></p>
<p>So which scouting organization do you work for?</p>
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		<title>By: RickyB</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickyB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stand by my derogatory spelling of that school in Durham. And I am nothing close to a &quot;Clemson guy.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand by my derogatory spelling of that school in Durham. And I am nothing close to a &#8220;Clemson guy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dirtyharry1971</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dirtyharry1971]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Put the jays and their entire organization down as the biggest losers, you will never hear from any of the guys they drafted again after today. within the next 5 years they will be joining the expos finally]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put the jays and their entire organization down as the biggest losers, you will never hear from any of the guys they drafted again after today. within the next 5 years they will be joining the expos finally</p>
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		<title>By: natstowngreg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[natstowngreg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One could argue that Mike Rizzo took the best player 4 years in a row. Anthony Rendon was a potential #1 overall pick last year before getting hurt.

I like that the Nats, having improved enough to drop down to mid-round 1, took a chance on a very talented pitcher. As shown with Zimmermann and Strasburg, elbow problems can be overcome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One could argue that Mike Rizzo took the best player 4 years in a row. Anthony Rendon was a potential #1 overall pick last year before getting hurt.</p>
<p>I like that the Nats, having improved enough to drop down to mid-round 1, took a chance on a very talented pitcher. As shown with Zimmermann and Strasburg, elbow problems can be overcome.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has to do with height.  The # of successful pitchers &lt;6&#039; is few and far between.  I know Kevin Goldstein, and possibly Keith Law, mentioned on twitter last night that the Jays could fast track Stroman and have him in the bigs this year, especially with the faster signing deadline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has to do with height.  The # of successful pitchers &lt;6&#039; is few and far between.  I know Kevin Goldstein, and possibly Keith Law, mentioned on twitter last night that the Jays could fast track Stroman and have him in the bigs this year, especially with the faster signing deadline.</p>
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		<title>By: istillbelieveinblue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[istillbelieveinblue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 12:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Edit: Fielder never played here, which generated some animosity between the Indians&#039; long time owner and the Brewers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edit: Fielder never played here, which generated some animosity between the Indians&#8217; long time owner and the Brewers.</p>
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		<title>By: fivetoolmike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fivetoolmike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t get how you&#039;re categorizing Marcus Stroman as a pure reliever; he started and relieved at Duke, and the Blue Jays said they&#039;ve not decided how they&#039;ll use him. I&#039;ve read he&#039;ll likely be a reliever ultimately, but that doesn&#039;t really translate to &quot;pure reliever.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get how you&#8217;re categorizing Marcus Stroman as a pure reliever; he started and relieved at Duke, and the Blue Jays said they&#8217;ve not decided how they&#8217;ll use him. I&#8217;ve read he&#8217;ll likely be a reliever ultimately, but that doesn&#8217;t really translate to &#8220;pure reliever.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: istillbelieveinblue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[istillbelieveinblue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think he took offence to going to Pittsburgh.  Nothing against the city or it&#039;s fans, but the Pirates haven&#039;t won anything since the early 90&#039;s.  I live in Indianapolis, so I&#039;ve had the horror of watching so-called prospects shuffle through their AAA team for the last few years.  I knew McCutchen was the real deal, but guys like Alvarez and Tabata are marginal at best, and don&#039;t get me started on Bullington. :)  I miss the days when the Indy Indians were with Montreal (Randy Johnson, Larry Walker, Marquis Grissom, etc), and Cincy (Sean Casey, Aaron Boone, Brett Boone, Pokey Reese), and later Milwaukee (Ben Sheets, Prince Fielder, JJ Hardy, Cory Hart).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he took offence to going to Pittsburgh.  Nothing against the city or it&#8217;s fans, but the Pirates haven&#8217;t won anything since the early 90&#8242;s.  I live in Indianapolis, so I&#8217;ve had the horror of watching so-called prospects shuffle through their AAA team for the last few years.  I knew McCutchen was the real deal, but guys like Alvarez and Tabata are marginal at best, and don&#8217;t get me started on Bullington. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I miss the days when the Indy Indians were with Montreal (Randy Johnson, Larry Walker, Marquis Grissom, etc), and Cincy (Sean Casey, Aaron Boone, Brett Boone, Pokey Reese), and later Milwaukee (Ben Sheets, Prince Fielder, JJ Hardy, Cory Hart).</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The question is, did he take offense at falling to eighth, or at being drafted by the Pirates?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is, did he take offense at falling to eighth, or at being drafted by the Pirates?</p>
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		<title>By: howiehandles</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[howiehandles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a pure speculation. Of all the drafts, none is a bigger crap shoot than the MLB draft. It was kind of funny, and pathetic, seeking the MLB, and MLB network, try to make that on par with the NBA and NFL drafts. They really need to find a way to spice it up, maybe have former players announce the first round, as Selig has about as much personality as my left shoe. 

Don&#039;t get me wrong, it was kind of nice to see MLB get into the new century, but the average fan has no idea who the majority of these kids are, and as usual, the bust factor is inordinately higher in the baseball draft than the other sports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a pure speculation. Of all the drafts, none is a bigger crap shoot than the MLB draft. It was kind of funny, and pathetic, seeking the MLB, and MLB network, try to make that on par with the NBA and NFL drafts. They really need to find a way to spice it up, maybe have former players announce the first round, as Selig has about as much personality as my left shoe. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, it was kind of nice to see MLB get into the new century, but the average fan has no idea who the majority of these kids are, and as usual, the bust factor is inordinately higher in the baseball draft than the other sports.</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 09:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People seem to vote down any bias in favor of (or enthusiasm for) one&#039;s own team.  My guess is that is the reason.  I think it is rather silly, but that&#039;s the way it goes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People seem to vote down any bias in favor of (or enthusiasm for) one&#8217;s own team.  My guess is that is the reason.  I think it is rather silly, but that&#8217;s the way it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan1111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 09:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure that teams are always ready if one of the top guys drops unexpectedly.  They probably just didn&#039;t think Appel was the best choice.  The pre-draft speculation of who will go number one is just that: speculation.  It is created by the press, not by the people who actually will make the picks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that teams are always ready if one of the top guys drops unexpectedly.  They probably just didn&#8217;t think Appel was the best choice.  The pre-draft speculation of who will go number one is just that: speculation.  It is created by the press, not by the people who actually will make the picks.</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan1111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 09:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s an awfully quick judgment to make of the guy.  We really don&#039;t know what his character is like.  A lot is being read into that statement, which, as Redguy noted above, might not even be his doing.

Appel was not exactly Stephen Strasburg.  There was no slam dunk first choice this year; there were plenty of question marks about all of the early picks.  In Appel&#039;s case, he only had one really dominant college season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an awfully quick judgment to make of the guy.  We really don&#8217;t know what his character is like.  A lot is being read into that statement, which, as Redguy noted above, might not even be his doing.</p>
<p>Appel was not exactly Stephen Strasburg.  There was no slam dunk first choice this year; there were plenty of question marks about all of the early picks.  In Appel&#8217;s case, he only had one really dominant college season.</p>
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		<title>By: dan1111</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan1111]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 09:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s too soon to make this judgement.  There are too many variables.  For example, Stryker might not even sign--he&#039;s committed to attend Mississippi.  That has to affect the logic of picking him.  On the other hand, defense at shortstop is quite valuable, and Marrero&#039;s defensive reputation is outstanding.

&quot;[T]hey had the chance to add guys who were going to be at the perimeter of the BA Top 100, right off the bat and, for whatever reason, opted elsewise.&quot;  The whatever reason is probably that they like these guys better.  I doubt that they were trying to save money on bonuses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s too soon to make this judgement.  There are too many variables.  For example, Stryker might not even sign&#8211;he&#8217;s committed to attend Mississippi.  That has to affect the logic of picking him.  On the other hand, defense at shortstop is quite valuable, and Marrero&#8217;s defensive reputation is outstanding.</p>
<p>&#8220;[T]hey had the chance to add guys who were going to be at the perimeter of the BA Top 100, right off the bat and, for whatever reason, opted elsewise.&#8221;  The whatever reason is probably that they like these guys better.  I doubt that they were trying to save money on bonuses.</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jwbiii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 07:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boras has generally done a good job at getting his draftees good bonus money. The draft sort of hard slotting system that has been put in place will limit his, and and other agents&#039;, ability to do this in the future.
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Hes a total cash monkey that does absolutely nothing but get you bottom line. He takes literally nothing else into consideration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 
Didn&#039;t Mark Teixeira and Adrian Beltre (twice) take less than the biggest deals they were offered? It seems like he takes his clients&#039; wishes and nothing else into consideration and most of his clients want maximum cash. Some want to re-establish value, some want to play for a World Series contender.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boras has generally done a good job at getting his draftees good bonus money. The draft sort of hard slotting system that has been put in place will limit his, and and other agents&#8217;, ability to do this in the future.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hes a total cash monkey that does absolutely nothing but get you bottom line. He takes literally nothing else into consideration.</p></blockquote>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Mark Teixeira and Adrian Beltre (twice) take less than the biggest deals they were offered? It seems like he takes his clients&#8217; wishes and nothing else into consideration and most of his clients want maximum cash. Some want to re-establish value, some want to play for a World Series contender.</p>
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		<title>By: hittfamily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hittfamily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 up, 7 down.  I&#039;m not against this.  I&#039;m against no one saying why they vote me down.   There are really only a dozen or so teams that can &quot;win&quot; this.  Those are the teams that will have fairly immediate impact, and fill a need they have.  When I say the Rays &quot;won&quot; this, I don&#039;t think they got the best player.  How could I?  They had the 25th best pick.  I think they won this because they have a means to an end.   By 2017, the Astros might have the best player.  By 2014, the Rays still have a Championship team, and they just added the best collegiate hitter to that squad.  They have the internal SS, 2b,3b.  They have the internal OF.  They have the internal rotation.  They have 2 needs.  C and 1b.  They killed it.  At 25, they got the same player they would have taken with the 10th pick.  For that reason, I say the Rays killed it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 up, 7 down.  I&#8217;m not against this.  I&#8217;m against no one saying why they vote me down.   There are really only a dozen or so teams that can &#8220;win&#8221; this.  Those are the teams that will have fairly immediate impact, and fill a need they have.  When I say the Rays &#8220;won&#8221; this, I don&#8217;t think they got the best player.  How could I?  They had the 25th best pick.  I think they won this because they have a means to an end.   By 2017, the Astros might have the best player.  By 2014, the Rays still have a Championship team, and they just added the best collegiate hitter to that squad.  They have the internal SS, 2b,3b.  They have the internal OF.  They have the internal rotation.  They have 2 needs.  C and 1b.  They killed it.  At 25, they got the same player they would have taken with the 10th pick.  For that reason, I say the Rays killed it!</p>
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		<title>By: jdd428</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jdd428]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not convinced the teams that passed on Appel had concerns per se. I think many teams were pretty sure he&#039;d be gone by the time their pick came up so they focused their pre-draft attentions elsewhere. 

A couple of the No. 2-7 teams (Twins, Mariners, Cubs) had been locked in to a specific choice, while Baltimore, Kansas City and San Diego may just felt more comfortable with what they were expecting predraft instead of changing course when Appel was still on the board.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not convinced the teams that passed on Appel had concerns per se. I think many teams were pretty sure he&#8217;d be gone by the time their pick came up so they focused their pre-draft attentions elsewhere. </p>
<p>A couple of the No. 2-7 teams (Twins, Mariners, Cubs) had been locked in to a specific choice, while Baltimore, Kansas City and San Diego may just felt more comfortable with what they were expecting predraft instead of changing course when Appel was still on the board.</p>
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		<title>By: atteckus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[atteckus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about just, don&#039;t hire Boras until you&#039;re on the verge of free agency, after demonstrating a stellar 6 years of service time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about just, don&#8217;t hire Boras until you&#8217;re on the verge of free agency, after demonstrating a stellar 6 years of service time.</p>
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		<title>By: ningenito78</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ningenito78]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know the entire story on Appel, but if the jist of this article is right, he deserves everything he got. First of all, if you really have your heart set at going number 1, don&#039;t hire Boras unless you have been on the cover of SI before the draft. Hes a total cash monkey that does absolutely nothing but get you bottom line. He takes literally nothing else into consideration. So either Appel has a Colby Rasmusian father or the kid is delusional. As for &#039;Dookie&#039;- it&#039;s &#039;Dukie&#039; or &#039;Dukey&#039;&#039; Clemson guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know the entire story on Appel, but if the jist of this article is right, he deserves everything he got. First of all, if you really have your heart set at going number 1, don&#8217;t hire Boras unless you have been on the cover of SI before the draft. Hes a total cash monkey that does absolutely nothing but get you bottom line. He takes literally nothing else into consideration. So either Appel has a Colby Rasmusian father or the kid is delusional. As for &#8216;Dookie&#8217;- it&#8217;s &#8216;Dukie&#8217; or &#8216;Dukey&#8221; Clemson guy.</p>
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		<title>By: randygnyc</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, which is it?  Did Appel issue that terse, disrespectful statement or tweet sentiments of gratitude?

That he fell to #8 tells me that the teams that passed on him were concerned about something more than his bonus demands.  Perhaps his overall diva attitude?  Sure the kids got talent, but who wants a young child, just a few years removed from diapers and pacifiers, dictating demands to a billion dollar organization?  I think the teams who passed on Appel automatically get a &quot;plus&quot; grade on this years draft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, which is it?  Did Appel issue that terse, disrespectful statement or tweet sentiments of gratitude?</p>
<p>That he fell to #8 tells me that the teams that passed on him were concerned about something more than his bonus demands.  Perhaps his overall diva attitude?  Sure the kids got talent, but who wants a young child, just a few years removed from diapers and pacifiers, dictating demands to a billion dollar organization?  I think the teams who passed on Appel automatically get a &#8220;plus&#8221; grade on this years draft.</p>
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		<title>By: redguy12588</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[redguy12588]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Boras is more upset than Appel is, being that Appel tweeted how happy and blessed he was right after he got picked. Boras is starting the negotiations early. The Pirates are in a no lose situation here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Boras is more upset than Appel is, being that Appel tweeted how happy and blessed he was right after he got picked. Boras is starting the negotiations early. The Pirates are in a no lose situation here.</p>
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		<title>By: atteckus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[atteckus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I might suggest the Red Sox (my favorite team) as big losers.  They passed up the chance to nail down HS studs like Stryker Trahan at 24th and Zach Elfin at 31st for an offensively declining shortstop and a projected middle of the rotation lefty.  Its clear that the BoSox area scouts emphasize far too much on Cape League stints and don&#039;t spread their emphasis wide enough.

There&#039;s the possibility that the BoSox hope to sign both Deven Marrero and Brian Johnson at less than slot-recommended bonuses and save some of that money for use in later rounds, but the fact is that they had the chance to add guys who were going to be at the perimeter of the BA Top 100, right off the bat and, for whatever reason, opted elsewise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might suggest the Red Sox (my favorite team) as big losers.  They passed up the chance to nail down HS studs like Stryker Trahan at 24th and Zach Elfin at 31st for an offensively declining shortstop and a projected middle of the rotation lefty.  Its clear that the BoSox area scouts emphasize far too much on Cape League stints and don&#8217;t spread their emphasis wide enough.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s the possibility that the BoSox hope to sign both Deven Marrero and Brian Johnson at less than slot-recommended bonuses and save some of that money for use in later rounds, but the fact is that they had the chance to add guys who were going to be at the perimeter of the BA Top 100, right off the bat and, for whatever reason, opted elsewise.</p>
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		<title>By: hittfamily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hittfamily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the Rays won this, hands down.  They got a guy who was expected to go 10-20 with the 25th pick.  He has the most power of any college player available (he won the HR Derby for the Cape Cod league).  The only reason he fell so far was because teams were afraid he may not last at third base, and may need to move to the OF or 1st base.  What don&#039;t the Rays need?   A third baseman.  What do the Rays need?  A power, impact bat at first.  What is the most expensive position to fill?  A power impact bat who plays first.  

Score!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Rays won this, hands down.  They got a guy who was expected to go 10-20 with the 25th pick.  He has the most power of any college player available (he won the HR Derby for the Cape Cod league).  The only reason he fell so far was because teams were afraid he may not last at third base, and may need to move to the OF or 1st base.  What don&#8217;t the Rays need?   A third baseman.  What do the Rays need?  A power, impact bat at first.  What is the most expensive position to fill?  A power impact bat who plays first.  </p>
<p>Score!!!!</p>
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