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Cliff Lee strikes out 12, loses again

Jun 5, 2012, 10:08 PM EDT

Cliff Lee AP

Cliff Lee still can’t catch a break. The Phillies left-hander fanned 12 while allowing two runs in 7 2/3 innings Tuesday against the Dodgers, but he still took a loss in a 2-1 game, leaving him 0-3 on the season.

Lee has gone nine outings without a win despite a 2.92 ERA. He’s given the Phillies seven quality starts and he even went 10 scoreless innings against the Giants in April, yet not once has the outcome fallen in his favor.

In the Phillies’ defense, they did score five runs in Lee’s May 25 start and 10 runs on May 30, winning both games. Unfortunately, the bulk of the runs came too late for Lee. Both games were tied 3-3 when he exited.

Give Chad Billingsley the credit for shutting down the Phillies tonight. He allowed just one extra-base hit — a Jimmy Rollins double — and one walk in seven innings of work. Josh Lindblom and Kenley Jansen finished up from there.

  1. randygnyc - Jun 5, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    Yup, this is exactly what he expected when he signed in Philly.

    • CliffC - Jun 5, 2012 at 11:24 PM

      But the Yankees are getting old and the phillies give me the best chance to win. That’s about the definition of an Arkansas education.

  2. redguy12588 - Jun 5, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    I guess he just doesn’t know how to win.

    • mgv38 - Jun 6, 2012 at 6:17 AM

      He needs to talk to Jack Morris about pitching to the score.

  3. Jeremy Fox - Jun 5, 2012 at 11:27 PM

    This is Manuel’s fault. He left him in after it was obvious he was gassed–approaching 120 pitches, having given up 3 hits in the inning after having given up two the previous 7 innings, and Charlie left him out there.

    • typpy1 - Jun 6, 2012 at 12:21 AM

      when are the morons in the media and especially the lapdogs from comcast and philadelphia news corp going to lay the problems of this philly organization where they belong with the ownership.cliff lee was too trusting and did not know the history of this ownership group. montgomery and the main line owners had only nominal interest in a hotbed of talent that latin american countries were producing.
      the lack of sports journalism and investigative reporting regarding the resignation of the head of minor league development leaves a proud history of journalist who were not afraid to question the moves of sports ownership as well as players willingness to try there best.
      cliff lees’ problems tonight are a direct result of the philadelphia ownership not making an effort to bolster the bullpen and especially a quality setup reliever.the cry of too much payroll is falling on deaf ears, they have been raking in the greenbacks not only from a sellout crowds night after night but also thousands willing to pay for standing room admission.
      if the media is unwilling to do their job why not resign their positions and become adverting copy writers.
      fed up

      • deathmonkey41 - Jun 6, 2012 at 12:50 AM

        Lee used the Yankees and Rangers to get the Phillies to dish out more money per year for him than either of those teams were willing to pay…yeah, poor Cliffy- they betrayed him.

      • greymares - Jun 6, 2012 at 12:53 PM

        deathmonkey, nice job of not letting the facts get in the way of your story. BOTH offered more money than the Phillies.

    • sasquash20 - Jun 6, 2012 at 12:22 AM

      Not only that but he should have put Mayberry in for J.Pierre. Pierre is hitting good but his glove is just horrible. Mayberry makes that play and the Phils probably win. Pence needs to start hitting with runners in scoring position, he has been terrible when he has runners in scoring position. We need Howard back in the worst way. He just comes up clutch and sets the rest of the order.

      • sasquash20 - Jun 6, 2012 at 12:26 AM

        My reply is to Jermey Fox. Though I do agree that ownership has lacked the effort to scout Latino ball players. And they only started spending the last 4-5 years after they won a WS on ace pitching. Had they started spending the 2-3 years before the WS, they would have made the playoffs a couple more times and who knows what happens.

      • Jeremy Fox - Jun 6, 2012 at 10:27 AM

        sasquatch20: I’m the one who said that Manuel left Lee in too long. I didn’t comment on anything ownership has or hasn’t done.

  4. deathmonkey41 - Jun 6, 2012 at 12:15 AM

    He should go home and spit on his wife.

    • sasquash20 - Jun 6, 2012 at 12:27 AM

      Lee pitched good tonight the offense continues to give him no run support at all. You should go home and eat a bullet.

    • typpy1 - Jun 6, 2012 at 12:35 AM


    • greymares - Jun 6, 2012 at 12:55 PM

      what a dick !!!!

  5. mj1818 - Jun 6, 2012 at 4:29 AM

    Trade that bum!! (phillies fan)

  6. mungman69 - Jun 6, 2012 at 4:56 AM

    Hey: Typpy1: Ever been to Gladwyn? Bryn Mawr? Rosemont? The Phillies’ owners keep counting their money. They don’t care about the minor leagues. They think that they can buy a team. At least they do spend. That sellout streak will end. Maybe then the owners will wake up.

    • typpy1 - Jun 6, 2012 at 6:47 AM

      mungman !! lets get a real discussion going,we cannot depend on the lapdog media reporters anymore the days of the stan hochman,gary smith,larry merchant, and sandy grady have passed and the time has come for people to put forth opinions and not be afraid of losing their job or the chance of being hired at all.
      the tom mccarthys and chris wheelers who deliver the owners editorial ad nauseum during the course of broadcasting do no justice to the incredible game of baseball.
      never been a writer so may need an editor to help with my grammar but would like to hear serious discussion with no classless character assasination. hope to hear from anyone willing to get this started
      fed up

  7. 12strikes - Jun 6, 2012 at 7:11 AM

    HELLO {head knock} McRub…..

    You pitching staff can have a 1.00 era, but if your team only scores .5 runs a game you are going to lose!

  8. mungman69 - Jun 6, 2012 at 7:23 AM

    Tippy: The broadcasters are paid Phillies employes. Ever since the Inky and Daily News have changed owners ( more than once) a lot of good reporters have disappeared. The rest that are left are afraid that they will get the ax. And Comcast reporters? Forgetaboutit! Again, when the fans stop showing up the owners MIGHT wake up.

    • typpy1 - Jun 6, 2012 at 8:38 AM

      mungman69: Just returned from a trip to the left coast and attended a game in san francisco and watched amd listened to broadcast of giants and dodger games,i’m sure their announcers are on the team payroll but just heard solid commentary on the game they called balls and srikes,when a batter came to the plate we heard what happened in the batters previous at is a pastoral game played with grace that can only be performed at the major league level by superior athletes,I continue to hear almost gossip like talk from the phillie announcers so lets hope if there is a change in ownership in the future the new owners will be secure enough that they will not micromanage their employees.

  9. billymc75 - Jun 6, 2012 at 8:14 AM

    If you dont score runs with the supposed good batters u have than youre not gonna win, those who ble pitcher who strikes out twelve are idiots. Or Philly fans

  10. mungman69 - Jun 6, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    Billymic75: Idiots or Philly fans: Yes, there is a huge difference. You should catch the fans in other cities.

  11. dirtyharry1971 - Jun 6, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    i hope he goes 0-15 on the season

  12. rico7207 - Jun 6, 2012 at 7:35 PM

    Last 2 words says it all. LOSES AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! Billingsley does not get Cliff Lee Money but won the game and others with poor run support . So have others, yet this guy has not won a game this year yet for all those millions. He’s way over paid and a bum in my eyes.

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