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And That Happened: Readers’ Choice Edition

Jun 22, 2012, 8:14 AM EDT

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Links to recaps and box scores from Thursday:


Cardinals 1, Tigers 2

Dodgers 1, Athletics 4

Rays 2, Nationals 5

Rockies 4, Phillies 1

Twins 1, Pirates 9

Marlins 5, Red Sox 6

  1. natslady - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:31 AM

    The losing pitcher of the Nats-Rays game was, in relief, Joel Peralta.

    Presumably sans pine-tar–his glove was not checked–Peralta tried quick-pitching the Nats. This is legal, the Nats announcers hastened to point out, if no one is on base, but a flagrant balk otherwise. As has also been pointed out–endlessly–the Nats have seen Peralta’s act close up, so the quick pitching didn’t bother them.

    So, with the game tied 2-2, that guru over there, Joe Madden, had Peralta intentionally walk Adam LaRoche to get to Danny Espinosa, who is hitting .188 from the left side. Danny doubled.

    Other nice things happened in the game (but not to the Rays). Among them:

    The Rays made their 60th error–leading the league in that category.
    BJ Upton forgot that fast runners (Espinosa again) can score on a fly ball even if it’s a shallow fly ball.
    Carlos Pena made a fashion statement–Ian Desmond looks better on second base than on first, so why not let him be there?

    Davey Johnson had his runners double-steal.
    Joe Maddon tried to have his runners double-steal.

    As noted by Davey Johnson, Joe Madden has a “Tweeter.” This is how he used it after the game:

    Joe Maddon ‏@RaysJoeMaddon
    You don’t like to see them but you are going to make mental mistakes. Today we were just chock full of them.

    All in all, not a well-coached team. We wish them all the best in Philadelphia, though.

    • bigleagues - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:12 AM

      FP Santangelo is decent with the content of his observations, but otherwise a clown to listen to.

      • natslady - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:16 AM

        He’s trying, may improve with experience. Don’t forget who we had before him!

      • seeinred87 - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:30 AM

        Haha, when I first started watching the Nats, I wasn’t terribly fond of him either. Now I enjoy listening to both him and Bob Carpenter. Mickey Redmond said that when he started out, he was told that a color commentator’s job isn’t to talk about what’s happening, but why it’s happening. I think Santangelo does a really good job of that. I especially like that he lists a pitcher’s repertoire once he enters the game; I always like to know what pitches a pitcher can throw.

        Though if they did say quick pitching with the bases empty is legal (I missed that), they were wrong.

      • natslady - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:40 AM

        They said quick-pitching was technically legal but not in “the spirit of the game.” Is there a rule on this I can look at?

        Oh, and speaking of Philadelphia, Cholly is at it again, praising the Nats left-fielder for his hustle. Problem is, Harper doesn’t play left-field, the rookie who often plays left-field is named Steve Lombardozzi. He also hustles, but his name is harder to spell.


      • natslady - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:52 AM

        From Wikipedia–A quick pitch in baseball occurs when the pitcher throws a pitch to home plate before the batter has had a chance to fully ready himself. It is illegal in all forms of baseball, and it has various penalties, depending on the situation: if there is no runner on base, the pitch is called a ball, but if there are any number of runners, it is ruled a balk. For a pitch to be ruled a quick pitch, it is necessary for one of the umpires to make the ball call or the balk call immediately.

        Apparently the umps decided the Nats were ready…As it turns out, the umps were right.

      • seeinred87 - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:38 AM

        @ natslady:

        It’s rule 8. The comments for 8.01 and 8.01(b) specifically deal with quick pitches.

        With runners on base, a pitcher needs to come to a complete stop. With the bases empty, however, pitchers (i.e. relievers, I don’t know of any starters who don’t use the windup when the bases are empty) don’t need to do that. Like you quoted from Wikipedia, though, if it’s done with the intention to catch the batter off guard, it’s still a quick pitch and ruled a ball.

      • natstowngreg - Jun 22, 2012 at 1:39 PM

        I’m OK with FP. I don’t expect that much of a TV color commentator (which made Rob Dibble’s failures all the more glaring). All I want is someone with an understanding of the game to explain things I don’t know, and FP does that.

        As to the quick-pitch thing, it’s one of those rules that’s enforced rarely, like the time limit on throwing pitches. Or, the rule that says the umpire can say, the batter didn’t try to get out of the way, so it’s not a HBP.

    • natstowngreg - Jun 22, 2012 at 2:05 PM

      Nothing to add to the game report. The Nats are 17-12 in the toughest portion of the schedule; are 9-6 vs. the AL East; and have (after 67 games) won half as many games as in all of 2011. Their lead expands to 3.5 games over the idle Mets and 4 over the similarly idle Braves. The Rays drop to 3.5 behind the Yankees.

      The Nats make their annual trek up Interstate 95 to Bal’mer. Jordan Zimmermann vs. the surprisingly effective Jason Hammel tonight. Over the weekend, perhaps they can sample some of the ongoing War of 1812 bicentennial celebration. You know, Fort McHenry, rockets’ red glare, flag still there, all that stuff.

    • KR - Jun 22, 2012 at 4:03 PM

      I attended this game last night; my 11-month-old’s first game. He seemed to enjoy it as much as an infant can. :) Made it to the 7th inning; considering his bedtime is usually 7:00pm I thought that was good. First game I’ve attended in years where I didn’t keep score though — hands a bit full this time.

      Anyway, so I bought 4 games before the season started, the first was one that was almost rained out but then eventually played in drizzling weather, and yesterday’s was stupidly hot. If anyone would like to know two more games that will have terrible weather in DC, I think I’ve got them picked out. 😛

  2. ajcardsfan - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    Cardinals 1, Tigers 2
    Lohse pitched a pretty good 7 innings with allowing 1 walk, 4 strikeouts, 4 hits, and the one HR of the game from Mr. Fielder. Turner wasn’t quite as sharp, but effective none the less, in facing the team managed by his former mentor with 5 walks, 3 strikeouts, 4 hits and 1 earned run over 5 innings, with the RBI going to Holliday. The game carries into the 10th frame with a walkoff from Berry, winning it for Detroit.

  3. proudlycanadian - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    No comment! The Jays had an off day.

    • pharmerbrown - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:12 AM

      Same goes for the Yanks and their wayward pitching staff.

      In other news, as a lifelong Yanks fan, I am finally starting to understand why the world hates us so much. We really are a pugnacious bunch… I can’t believe how many of my fellow fans are fretting over Kuroda losing a close one and Phil Hughes getting beaten like he owed Jason Heyward money. WE ALL KNEW THAT THE STARTING PITCHING WAS SUSPECT!!! We complained about it all offseason, only to watch Pineda miss the whole season and Kuroda have a tough time transitioning from the NL West to the AL East (paint me mystified). I know, I know, we love our Andy. But 1 aging (aged?) pitcher does not a rotation make. And Charles in Charge can eat innings (and other things… look it up, I swear), but the bullpen has become questionable (bound to happen when Mo tripped, slipped, and fell), as well as the manager’s judgment. We have 90 frickin’ games to go!! We’ll be fine, or buy someone around the trade deadline (in which case we’ll be fine).

      • basedrum777 - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:53 AM

        The yankees have played .800 baseball over their last 25 games. I repeat .800 baseball….

      • pharmerbrown - Jun 22, 2012 at 12:00 PM

        Yeah, but to hear NY media talk about it, you would think we are 8 games out with 7 to play.

    • goawaydog - Jun 22, 2012 at 12:09 PM

      No comment! The Giants had an off day.

  4. Old Gator - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    Up late at a Heat party. At Tobacco Road, btw, Ken. My head….unnnhhhhh….okay, it’s morning, time to get real. Much f the Feesh’s recent ineptitude has gone under the radar while the local spawrts writers and tork show hosts concentrated on the NBA drama. Well, their cover is blown now and the knives and clubs are going to be out for Slobbering Ozzie. In another few days he’s going to start feeling like the priest in The Power and the Glory.

    As far as the Feesh, my mother always said that if you have nothing nice to say about someone, don’t say anything.

    What did Mom know?

    The Feesh did almost everything right last night except win. Two stirring comebacks. Timely heeting. A dinger by the ballplayer formerly recognizable as the Iron Giant. But Krazy Karlos Lamebraino, after a couple of weeks of dealing with a muscle strain in his back, just kept walking Beanbags and hitting a couple of them – so what, they won’t be back for a few years – and they kept scoring. He left with a lead, though, and the Mujica Man came out, coughed up a homer, a double and a seengle and just like that….

    Chris Hatcher sent back down to Nawlins after a cup of very strong coffee and a few batting practice sessions during realtime. Mike Dunn recalled to see if he’s learned anything.

    The Feesh come leemping home to open a series with the Feather Lice tomorrow. Cur calls them the Beavermen, but since feathers evolved from hairs we may just live in different time zones.

    • proudlycanadian - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:46 AM

      I hope that the Feesh keep up the bad work.

      • Old Gator - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:29 AM

        Home cooking didn’t do them any good on the last homestand. I can’t see why it would on this one. They’re just playing terribly. Mostly they don’t hit. When they do, they don’t peetch. I’m going to tonight’s game, though I’m not sure why.

    • APBA Guy - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:24 AM

      What is it with the Miami middle relief? It’s incredibly inconsistent. Are they being overworked?

      • Old Gator - Jun 22, 2012 at 1:36 PM

        They have been the past two weeks, but they’ve also been inconsistent when not overworked, so I don’t think that matters. Perhaps it’s time to redefine the military term “The Suck” as a state of being within which peetchers exist, an existential problem, you know?

    • natstowngreg - Jun 22, 2012 at 1:53 PM

      Dissin’ your mom? That’s a clown comment, bro.

      • Old Gator - Jun 22, 2012 at 2:31 PM

        She couldn’t cook very well either. But my aunt tells me she played a nasty game of Mah Jongg.

    • madhatternalice - Jun 22, 2012 at 4:32 PM

      I miss Tobacco Road.

  5. kopy - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    Twins 1, Pirates 9:
    Looks like the Twins lost. I don’t know, the hell with it.

    • wlschneider09 - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:35 AM

      As I mentioned earlier in the week:


  6. - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    I’ve been busy coaching my kids ball teams and haven’t had a lot of time to focus on MLB. However, the season is almost over and I’m fixin to get ready to root for dudes I don’t know, playing for cities they don’t really live in, again. (Joe Mauer actually plays in the city he grew up in, but it’s for the Twins so I can’t root for him)

    Anyway. I’m glad to see the Nats-Rays rivalry has single handedly made interleague play watchable again. I can’t wait the three years until they get togther again.

    The Royals will get Salvadore Perez back soon. Even if you don’t like the Royals you should like this. I just hope he plays like he did last year. The Royals are only 4.5 out on June 22nd, AFTER a 12 game losing streak. Damn, if they’d just gone 5-11 during that stretch. I don’t think they’re going to win the division. BUT they’re playing meaningful games this late in the season which I haven’t seen since 2003.

    Vin Mazzaro continues his quest to be a 20 game winner tonight. Almost enough excitement make me cancel my weekend plans.

    • basedrum777 - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:54 AM

      Jeter grew up a Yanx fan.

  7. cereal blogger - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Any women tied up in his bedroom afterwards ?

    I kid,,,pulling for this guy

  8. groundruledoublebourbon - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:00 AM

    Is Craig adhering to the American tradition of taking a real, restful vacation after getting home from “vacationing” with the kids?

    • - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:03 AM

      No doubt, why do I always need a week to recover from my week of “vacation”.

      • kopy - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM

        Research has shown that it takes an estimated 3 days to feel relaxed on a vacation from the time it starts.

      • mybrunoblog - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:07 AM

        Yeah I always give myself a day between returning from vacation and returning to work. Going directly from vacation to work without a day in between is like getting teeth pulled by rusty needle nose pliers.

      • - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM

        @kopy. Only 3 days? I bet it’s longer than that. We usually head off into the wilderness for vacation. Try to make it 2 weeks but it doesn’t always work like that. Two weeks totally disconnected from everything is really relaxing.

        Like wise, got to have that extra day before work to unpack, clean, fix, & put away gear, fumigate the car, take a nap etc.

      • pharmerbrown - Jun 22, 2012 at 12:10 PM

        My personal experience indicates that five minutes after I turn off my phone/PC/whatever other stupid consumer electronics I have on me, and 2 minutes after I finish my first pool-side frozen drink (if its a double), I am relaxed. And it’s not a result of the booze. (Ok, maybe slightly. But seriously, any of my weekend binges do not come with relaxation, rather more of an “I don’t give an eff” attitude, which I usually end up regretting when I look at said phone/PC/ whatever other stupid consumer electronics I have on me.)

        I agree that recovering from the trip home takes a day, at least, and another day to mentally prepare myself for the mundanity that is the “real world”.

  9. birdman6824 - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    OG, I recommend a Key Lime milkshake for that head. – preferably last nite at the Road, though I didn’t see it on the menu.

    • Old Gator - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:34 AM

      The Road features no milkshakes – it has no pretenses at being the local Jack Rabbit Slim’s – but it does offer a middling key lime pie. I make a better one. Theirs is kinda wussy – it’s smooth and creamy, whereas a real key lime pie should be sharp with a slightly mossy backtaste and smack you right in the tongue, like someone challenging you to a duel.

      I might well drag myself down to Homestead today and indulge in the milkshake, though. So, was I right about those damned things, or was I right about them?

  10. APBA Guy - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    There was an earlier thread about Cespedes hitting the walkoff to give the A’s a sweep over the best-record-in-baseball Dodgers. This terribly unlikely outcome- it wasn’t that long ago that the A’s had lost 9 in a row-was fueled by a rare (for Oakland) combination of the opponent being worse offensively than the A’s (the Dodgers collected a total of 8 hits in 3 games), some timely hitting by the A’s, and some excellent A’s starting pitching. McCarthy went 7 shutout in the opener, Milone was a CG 1 ER winner, and Blackley went 8 with 1 ER. The A’s only used 4 IP of relief in 3 games . Hello, 1966.

    But the best was the A’s defense in the 9th yesterday. Inge made a great play on a bunt to erase Matt Treanor at second on a Gordon bunt. Gordon then tried to steal second but was cut down by rookie catcher Derek Norris, playing for the regressing Kurt Suzuki. All of a sudden, Ryan Cook, he of the 0.57 ERA, had two outs and empty bases.

    So everything came together and as Steve Berthiaume says on BBTN the A’s are a “fun, watchable team.”

    But he’s wrong in calling them a group of young players. Look at yesterday’s lineup. Crisp, Gomes, Inge, and Moss have all been around. Pennington is in his 4th year at Oakland. Weeks, Norris, and Cowgill are the true rookies, with Cespedes a rookie officially but having 7 years of organized, professional baseball behind him.

    What the A’s have done this year is to invest in a basket of cast-off veterans, rather than 1 big name geezer (no more Nomar, or Return of the Giambino, or Big Hurt Redux). They’ve taken that $ 8M or so and spread it around to 5 or six guys. What they are getting from that is in some games all those guys play like the cast-offs they are and the A’s lose. Some games a few guys play well and a few don’t. And some games, like in this latest winning streak, the veterans play well. And the young pitchers pitch well, something Oakland has had since 2000.

    When a plan comes together it is fun to watch. It’s not so much fun when the reality of this team-they are cast-offs for a reason, after all, and kids-shows up and you get those 9 game losing streaks that look like they will never end.

    Still, 70,000 were entertained over the three mid-week games. That’s tremendous by Oakland standards.

    • goawaydog - Jun 22, 2012 at 2:01 PM

      I wasn’t at the game so I got to see replay after replay in HD of both the Inge and Norris plays at 2nd. simply awesome defense on both accounts. Inge going for the force at 2nd was ballsy. How often do those throws end up in center field ( and I hate the “take the sure out at first” that we usually get). Correct me if I am wrong but I believe it is Norris’ first big league throw out of a base stealer at 2nd.

      • clydeserra - Jun 22, 2012 at 2:17 PM

        first throw

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