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Bobby Valentine: Japanese pitchers want to go 3-2

Jun 27, 2012, 1:37 PM EDT

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Why is it that Daisuke Matsuzaka and now Yu Darvish have walked so many more batters in the U.S. than they did back in Japan? Red Sox skipper Bobby Valentine, who previously managed the Chiba Lotte Mariners for seven years,  has an idea that Japanese pitchers actually strive to get to the 3-2 count before trying to put away a batter.

  1. mianfr - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Someone really needs to translate sabermetric literature, or really just math, any math, into Japanese and give it to these guys if that’s the case…

    • paperlions - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:05 PM

      I’m sure they already know the math. Different culture, different values, different way to play the game, different valuation of “success”.

      • hasbeen5 - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:09 PM

        “Same dead arm” after throwing a couple extra pitches to every batter

      • paperlions - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM

        Yes, but again…that isn’t the point. The ultimate goal is to win with a certain style, not just to win.

      • mianfr - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:42 PM

        Then you’re a moron for signing or pitching whose preferred goal is inconsistent with your own goal, i.e. to have a higher expected number of games won.

    • seahawks55 - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM

      The culture talk is absolutely true. Ichiro has said he prefers infield hits because they require so much skill. Even though Ichiro actually has the power to hit 25 home runs a year, he slap hits because that is how he wants to be successful.

  2. dowhatifeellike - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    Maybe this is why they get an extra day of rest.

    I haven’t looked at the numbers in a while, but I’m pretty sure that batting average increases with each pitch a batter sees.

  3. icanspeel - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    It’s a dumb idea, but I can only imagine if baseball was played with every hitter coming to the plate with a 3-2 count on them already.

  4. randomdigits - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Does that mean Koji isn’t Japanese?

  5. thatyankeedude - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    In a 3-2 count wouldn’t the hitter be looking for a pitch to hit? The only thing that makes sense is if the pitchers r trying to take advantage of that over aggressiveness but still these r MLB hitters they r more than likely going to hurt you

  6. townballblog - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    I like it… if it’s true. Though knowing Japanese culture it doesn’t seem to be a big stretch.

  7. billymc75 - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    In Japan being on tv longer and eyes on the game longer is a good thing

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