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Colby Rasmus tries to kick Dustin Pedroia on takeout slide

Jun 27, 2012, 1:51 PM EDT

Colby Rasmus kick

I’m not a big fan of takeout slides as a rule. Toronto’s Colby Rasmus, though, definitely went above and beyond while trying to take out Boston’s Dustin Pedroia in the first inning of Wednesday’s game.

After what looked like a perfectly legitimate slide initially, Rasmus decided to put in a little extra effort and kick up his left leg at Pedroia after already having reached second base.

It “worked,” in that Pedroia’s relay to first was well wide of the bag at first base, though even without that extra effort, Pedroia was going to have a tough time making the throw. Fortunately, no one was hurt on the play.

Personally, I’d like to see Rasmus suspended for a few games for undertaking such a dangerous tactic, not that it will ever happen.

  1. marshmallowsnake - Jun 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    I I were Pedroia, I would have landed knees first right on top of him.

    • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:10 PM

      No. Neither act is okay. It’s one thing to try to get in the 2B’s way; it’s another to straight-up try to hurt him.

      I hate that kind of dirty play.

      • marshmallowsnake - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:44 PM

        I agree neither is acceptable, but if the runner is going out of his way to do this, and I am in the air, then I am not caring where I land.

  2. marshmallowsnake - Jun 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    If I were Pedroia, I would have landed knees first right on top of him.

  3. mattyflex - Jun 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    If I made snide remarks, I’d make sure to post them twice.

    If I made snide remarks, I’d make sure to post them twice.

    • hittfamily - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM

      I I were Pedroia, I would have landed knees first right on top of him.

      • marshmallowsnake - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:47 PM

        Original….

    • marshmallowsnake - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:46 PM

      One had a spelling error, and with the lack of an edit button, that is what you get.

      One had a spelling error, and with the lack of an edit button, that is what you get.

      Loser…

      • mattyflex - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:56 PM

        Relax baby.

      • burnsy - Jun 27, 2012 at 4:27 PM

        Now now, we don’t need anyone dropping knees around here.

  4. bossman6 - Jun 27, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    seriously what a Fucking dirtbag Rasmus is

    • delawarephilliesfan - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM

      You’d be unhappy in life as well had you been named after a type of Cheese :)

      • kopy - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:42 PM

        Hey, at least the cheese is named after a city, Colby, WI, which was named after a man whose last name was Colby.

        So really, he’s no different than anyone with the first name Jackson, Ryan, Kirk, or any other last names that have been turned into popular first names.

      • nolanwiffle - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM

        It still boggles the mind why Durocher never signed Herman Mu(e)nster to deal to play for the Dodgers……

    • thomas655 - Jun 27, 2012 at 5:50 PM

      The real dirtbag is Rasmus’ father, he probably taught him to do that. His father was a complete pain in the ass the entire time Rasmus was in STL. I was happy to see him go to the great white north and take his father with him.

  5. itsacurse - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    I HOPE PEDROIA IS DEAD.

    (99% joking)

    • CJ - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:17 PM

      (100% unfunny)

  6. hammertime1941 - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    Wow. What a bunch of whiners we have hear. Maybe it was a questionable slide but NONE of those losers in Boston ever did something like that? Please! Save the crying for the towels you’ll purchase at the end of the year when the Red Sux (Sorry: Sox) are on the golf course and not in the playoffs.

    Oh, one more thing: get used to the Jays beating up on the East. Looks like the ghosts of 92-93 are back to haunt you all!

    • Matthew Pouliot - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:16 PM

      FWIW, merely a half-inning later, Darnell McDonald had a wide open shot on Omar Vizquel and didn’t even touch him. He could have knocked him into next week had he wanted to.

    • wendell7 - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM

      Smoke another one, hammer. the Jays are in last place

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:22 PM

      get used to the Jays beating up on the East.

      The Jays, who are the worst team in the AL E, currently losing to Boston 6-1 in the 2nd as I type this, and can’t keep a pitching staff healthy are beating up on the East (who they are 12-15 against)?

    • garylanglais - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:27 PM

      Never understood the argument after a play that is based on “Well, other people do it!” or “If your team did it you wouldn’t be making a stink out of this!”

      Other people doing something, on its own, has never and will never make something right and fans being hypocritical over a single play has nothing to do with the play itself.

      Keep the focus on the play we have “hear” (grammar police FTW!) and not other people’s reactions

    • rockthered1286 - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM

      Um… the Jays are in last place in the division and 7 1/2 out of first. So where is this beating up on the East coming from?

      vs. O’s- 4-5
      vs. BoSox- 4-4
      vs. Yanks- 2-0
      vs Rays- 2-6

      A collective 12-15 against the AL East. So there’s that.

  7. professor30 - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    i’ll be disappointed if rasmus isn’t drilled later in the game.

    • garylanglais - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM

      Last time a retaliatory HBP was this likely it took Morales 5 pitches to hit Luke Scott and then Bobby V blamed it on the “Ghost of Fenway”

  8. proudlycanadian - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    It looked like a good hard slide to me.

    • The Rabbit - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:04 PM

      I was watching the game on NESN and the Boston broadcasters thought it was a good hard slide too.

      • proudlycanadian - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:28 PM

        Thank you. Rasmus was trying to pevent a double play and succeded. I suspect that if Matthew took a closer look at the play, he would realize that he goofed.

      • Matthew Pouliot - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:33 PM

        Where do you think the screenshot came from, proudlycanadian? Trust me, I watched it over and over again.

        As for the NESN guys, Orsillo objected initially, Remy didn’t care and they moved on quickly. I don’t see any reason to base my reaction to the play on their reaction to the play.

        FWIW, if I was doing the game, I would have blasted Rasmus then and Encarnacion later for his ridiculous error/failure to cut off the ball. And then I probably would have gotten fired. I like this seat better.

    • stlouis1baseball - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:58 AM

      Hahaha! I somehow missed your post P.C. Thanks…you never dissapoint.

      • proudlycanadian - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:17 AM

        It is interesting that none of the TV crews and none of the posters who were watching the game saw the play the way Matthew did.

  9. charlutes - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    All Mathew writes is hater articles, especially on the jays, pure hater.

    • proudlycanadian - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:36 PM

      Seriously Matthew, you should review your posts about the Jays. I can see where charlutes is coming from.

    • 32bigg - Jun 27, 2012 at 7:55 PM

      No doubt Mathew has a hate-on for the Jays. He’s the author of any article that could be perceived as negative towards TO. ProudlyCanadian is as potentially biased as me, but if he check his past posts, he’ll see. He would not write an article about an overaggressive slide if it were another team.

      And based on the thumbs up/down distribution, this site has a lot of whiny old men on it. Gimme a break, they’re not knitting out there you bunch of fairies.

      But HBT is great on balance. At least you guys don’t delete my posts like your bastard corporate football cousins.

      • stlouis1baseball - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:03 AM

        32: I want to thank you for using the word “fairies.” That is outstanding. I haven’t heard it in a while. And just for the the record….it isn’t old Men. It is a bunch of 20 something dudes who have had a sugar coated existence thus far in life. You know…participation ribbons…everyone gets playing time…if you beat me you can’t do it too badly cause’ my feelings will be hurt. That sorta’ thing. But regardless…the “fairies” comment was classic.

  10. carlos1212 - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    I’m watching this game and this is not at all representative of what happened. Even the NESN guys said it wasn’t dirty.

    If you watch other angles, which were shown during the game, by the time Rasmus gets to Pedroia his leg is straight out to the side, as in his cleat was pointing to home plate. The whole thing wasn’t the least bit dangerous.

    • proudlycanadian - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:37 PM

      In other words Matthew might just have let his apparent bias against the Jays cloud his judgement.

      • Matthew Pouliot - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:47 PM

        I guess it’s time to come clean. Dave Stieb ran over my dog when I was five.

        Really, why would anyone have a personal dislike of the Jays? Personally, I like the GM, I like the manager, I’ve always been irrationally high on a number of their players (Rasmus included).

        I’ll admit, I liked the Expos more growing up.

      • proudlycanadian - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM

        In that case, I hope that it was not your car that Jose Bautista damaged with his 25th home run today.

    • Matthew Pouliot - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM

      That’s crazy. No, he didn’t try to spike him; it was a kick, not a spike. His brought his leg up and kicked at a player in mid-air. It’s certainly not as dangerous as going in spikes first on a guy who has his legs planted. I’ll agree that more dangerous takeouts happen every day.

      But it was a completely ridiculous and unnecessary action that should have consequences.

      • carlos1212 - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:36 PM

        He kind of swung his leg around, to take out Pedroia’s legs, which he did. Clean play in my opinion. Hopefully we’ll get some replays after the game.

  11. lukeslice - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    Go figure, one of the HBT writers doesn’t like a baseball tactic that involves some form of physical confrontation. Ironic that this blog is called HARDBALL Talk … with all the whining about intentional HBPs & takeout slides you guys oughta think about “little league talk” or “slow pitch recreational softball talk.”

    These things are part of the game. The extra leg-kick was obviously a little much, but otherwise there is NOTHING wrong with a takeout slide to break up a DP. Pedey himself would’ve done the same exact thing (minus the kick, which understandably is bush league). I wonder if Colby learned that move from Tony Rasmus?

    • davidpom50 - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:56 PM

      So, what you’re saying is there’s nothing wrong with what Colby Rasmus did on this play except for what Colby Rasmus did on this play? Got it. Cool story.

      • lukeslice - Jun 27, 2012 at 11:11 PM

        what I said was the extra kick was a little much but otherwise takeout slides are completely legit. this article starts with the clear intention of disagreeing with the art of a takeout slide in general, which is just part of baseball. the sallypants-ness is a constant topic on this blog.

    • stlouis1baseball - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:08 AM

      You said it best here Luke: “the sallypants-ness is a constant topic on this blog.”
      That pretty much sums it up. Participation ribbons, everyone makes the team, everyone gets in the game. It essentally results in the pussification of today’s 20 somethings.

  12. kdeval31 - Jun 27, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    Shouldn’t we be talking about the camera that Daniel Nava has in his pocket?

  13. Francisco (FC) - Jun 27, 2012 at 3:52 PM

    Ty Cobb would probably wonder why Colby didn’t try to spike him with his cleats.

  14. charlutes - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Just because you have no reason to consistently post hater articles, about the Jays or any other team doesn’t mean you don’t do it. I don’t know why you do it but my guess is you have nothing else to write about so you jump on anything you see and spin it negatively.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jun 27, 2012 at 6:26 PM

      Just an FYI, if you have to create some absurd scenario to defend your hypothetical, your hypothetical is probably wrong.

  15. charlutes - Jun 27, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    True that! Florio is the worst for that. If you disagree with him he doesn’t post it. And that guy literally has no clue.

  16. highump - Jun 27, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    Don’t expect a suspension as this act is not technically against the rules. If he can reach the bag the fielder is fair game. Bush league, perhaps, but not illegal.

    • Matthew Pouliot - Jun 27, 2012 at 10:34 PM

      I don’t want to make this all about Rasmus, but the baseball rule book doesn’t really cover any of these on-field situations. There’s no rule about intentionally throwing at hitters, but that doesn’t stop players from getting suspended. There was no rule covering Albert Belle’s forearm decking of Fernando Vina, but damn right he got suspended. There’s no rule that says you can’t bring a gun on the field and take out the center fielder, but I’m guessing that’d also be frowned upon.

      No, there’s certainly no chance of Rasmus being suspended. But when it comes to on-field incidents, MLB just makes up policies as it goes along.

      • highump - Jul 2, 2012 at 11:12 PM

        First paragraph – Good answer.

        Second paragraph – yes, MLB just makes up policies as it goes along, because that is what it should do. Whatever is for the “good of the game” will be dealt with. This changes and will continue to change as the game evolves.

  17. sasquash20 - Jun 28, 2012 at 12:30 AM

    I don’t like Rasmus but more plays like this and I’ll love him. Stop being a bunch of Tinker Bells!

  18. theskinsman - Jun 28, 2012 at 3:53 AM

    If the slide/kick was a problem, Valentine would’ve had Rasmus drilled at the plate.So, either the Sox didn’t consider it an issue, or were satisfied with drilling the Jays pitching staff instead.

  19. stlouis1baseball - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    I anxiously await P.C.’s take on this. Massage it into a non-issue P.C. Work it Man!

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