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Some people have a problem with Clay Buchholz going to a charity event? Really?

Jun 28, 2012, 8:23 AM EDT

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Clay Buchholz just got out of the hospital for esophagitis. Less than 24 hours later, the team has confirmed, he attended a charity event for The Greg Hill Foundation, which is designed to provide immediate assistance for families touched by tragedy.

Most people would probably view that as being pretty damn noble and, depending on how sick Buchholz still was, maybe even a little brave.

Noble?! THIS IS BOSTON!

That’s a talk radio show in Boston which clearly has no desire to make a big deal out of this. I mean, they only decided to call it a “vodka-sponsored pool party” at a casino, without mentioning the charity aspect first. Which, in turn, predictably set the neanderfans loose:

And on and on. Never mind that he wasn’t drinking, his doctors had no problem with him doing normal activity as soon as he was released and resuming athletic activity within a couple of days. Seriously: people are attacking Clay Buchholz for ATTENDING A CHARITY EVENT.

David Ortiz went off the other day, talking about how much b.s. playing in Boston entails. This is exactly what he was talking about.

  1. crackerjack1 - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:26 AM

    And people actually blasted Ortiz for his comments that were ‘out of nowhere’. The Boston media doing what it does best. Desperately trying to get the best athletes to leave because writing/talking about failing teams is what they really want.

    • sabatimus - Jun 28, 2012 at 12:54 PM

      Oh, Ortiz’s comments were absolutely spot on. Hell, even Ted Williams hated the Boston media. There’s a long history here of jack-assery. And as if Buchholz could’ve picked the sponsor for the event. Just because it’s sponsored by a vodka company does not meant he or anyone else drank during it. And it’s a charity event for crying out loud.

      • sabatimus - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM

        Also, this might very well be why guys like Jed Lowrie and Josh Reddick are knocking the cover off the ball for other teams, instead of being mediocre and/or hurt a lot with the BS in Boston.

  2. skeleteeth - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:34 AM

    Twitter is fucking stupid. And Craig, I presume you have proof these people are from Boston?

    • Craig Calcaterra - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:36 AM

      Good point! Now that I think of it, I’m sure the fact that they follow a Boston talk radio show on Twitter and opine passionately about the littlest Red Sox minutiae means that they’re Yankees fans. Sorry.

      • Jack Marshall - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:44 AM

        Heh.

      • skeleteeth - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:45 AM

        I didn’t ask if you were sure they are Red Sox fans. We can come to the same conclusion. I’m just saying it’s not always little old Boston’s fault. There’s only slightly more than half a million people that live there even though it swells to 1-2 million during the work week.

      • Joe - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:51 AM

        “There’s only slightly more than half a million people that live there.”

        And that is the ENTIRE fan base and media market.

      • drewsylvania - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:46 AM

        Eric Wilbur (the Boston Globe!) just wrote a blog post assassinating Buchholz over it. Please remove your fingers from your ears, skeleteeth.

    • heyblueyoustink - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:41 AM

      http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/06/28/report-buchholz-attends-foxwoods-pool-party/

      There’s your smoking gun, a$$ clown.

      • skeleteeth - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:46 AM

        I’m not sure what question it is you think you are answering.

      • ajcardsfan - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:55 AM

        “For the first two days, he said he couldn’t stand up without feeling like he was going to pass out.

        Now he’ll have more questions to answer about the perception of a player recovering from illness not travelling with his team, but to a casino in Connecticut instead.”

        Wth is wrong with people in Boston…seriously?

      • heyblueyoustink - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:56 AM

        ” I presume you have proof these people are from Boston”

        If they are not from Boston, they’re certainly representing you, whether you like it or not. otherwise, their ratings would be poop and they’d be replaced.

      • deathmonkey41 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:08 AM

        “Wth is wrong with people in Boston…seriously?”

        As far as I can tell, they can’t say “Car” or “Heart Attack” correctly.

      • skeleteeth - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:09 AM

        Talking about the neanderfans making stupid tweets…

      • nkilburne - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

        I don’t see anything wrong with the article and I don’t see how it’s a “smoking gun.”

        Buchholz was deemed not healthy enough to fly across country with his team, which is completely fine.

        However, he took it upon himself to travel out of state (around a 2+hr drive) to a casino for a charity event sponsored by an alcohol company that he wasn’t scheduled to make an appearance at (he was supposed to be with his team on the west coast, remember?).

        No matter how you look at it, there’s a perception issue there. People in Boston are angry at how this team tanked last September and have every right to be. It became evident pretty quickly that the issue wasn’t “everyone’s slumping at the same time.” Given that, the fans are now angry that the starting rotation can’t seem to pitch to their potential or stay off the DL.

        The players & their PR people know this…so don’t you think that MAYBE someone should’ve told Clay, “Hey, maybe sit this one out and do something not high profile right now…”? I sure as hell do…

      • nightman13 - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:14 AM

        Sit out and not do something high profile? Like support a charity? Oh hey good cause, I can’t attend because some jackasses may jump all over me for being too sick to play baseball but be healthy enough to walk around a casino to support a charitable cause.

        Flying and driving are very different things, normally I would think that doesn’t need an explanation, but this may be a special case. Flying is done at a high altitude which can change the physiology of the body, also if you are feeling crappy planes can’t pull over and stop at a hospital.

        Cars travel on the ground, so there is no physiological change and oddly enough, hospitals reside on the ground and are easily accessible by car.

        P f’n S HIS DOCTOR CLEARED HIM TO ATTEND THE EVENT BUT NOT TO FLY

      • sabatimus - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM

        Smoking gun for whom? Buchholz being an idiot (as the source basically claims), or the source being an idiot? By the way, that article doesn’t even post an author. It gives an audio link to Toucher and Rich’s reaction, but that’s it. This jerk won’t even affix his name to his own posts. Quit hiding you moron!

      • sabatimus - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM

        Smoking gun for whom? Buchholz being an idiot (as the source basically claims), or the source being an idiot? By the way, that article doesn’t even post an author. It gives an audio link to Toucher and Rich’s reaction, but that’s it. This jerk won’t even affix his name to his own posts. Quit hiding you moron!

    • hockeyflow33 - Jun 28, 2012 at 6:00 PM

      it’s on the #1 sports station in Boston

  3. brewcrewfan54 - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:35 AM

    Of course people complained. There’s a large chunk of every fanbase that I think would rather their team sucked so they can bitch and rant about them rather than cheer for them because they win. Those 2 sportsradio jackasses are a big part of the blame to. Irresponsible reporting the way they made sure everyone knew about the vodka sponsor and nothing more of the event.

    • paperlions - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:50 AM

      I have lived a number of places (IL, MO, MN, TX, CT) and travel a lot as part of my job and have never heard/read anything like the Boston sports media. The feed on the negative and look for it even when things are going great. I was here when they won in 2007 and at least 1/2 the stories were still negative because they weren’t winning enough or by a large enough margin, anything short of perfection gets blasted, stomped on, and ground into dust for days on end.

      …and sorry, but a large chunk of every fan base does not want their team to suck so they can bitch about it. That is just silly talk.

      • thetruth1313 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:22 AM

        I couldnt agree more. I am originally from CT, and lived in other states as well. The sports media in Boston is truly something else. I will still listen to WEEI and Sports Hub on occasion and not much has changed about spinning something/anything to a negative.

      • brewcrewfan54 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:24 AM

        Then we disagree on that. I’ll live. Thanks for your input.

    • hasbeen5 - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:52 AM

      I actually agree with the part about a small percentage of each fan base. I live in a college town, whose athletics are fairly prominent in the 3 major college sports. Some guys around here really do prefer bitching to cheering.

      • natslady - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:27 AM

        Yes. Even here, where we have the first chance in a gazillion years to play “meaningful baseball in September” and just blasted the Rox for 21 runs in two games, what’s the first thing you hear?

        Oh, yeah, Chien-Ming Wang looked lost on the mound and when are we DFA’ing him? People, when you are leading 11-1 you put a struggling starter out there. That’s what you do.

        All the fan “analysts” traded Ian Desmond this spring–Oh, right, Mike Rizzo didn’t and now he’s showing All-Star level offense and D.

        If we won the WS someone would complain about the parade route–not to mention why is that rally napkin on the rings?

  4. proudlycanadian - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:35 AM

    Some people just are not charitable. They like to twist stories to make someone look bad. The writers at HBT would never twist stories to make people look bad would they.

    • deathmonkey41 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:11 AM

      Any event that benefits vodka distilleries is okay in my book. I’m very passionate about helping the good people at Ketel One out as much as possible. God bless the Dutch.

  5. hojo20 - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:40 AM

    John Dennis was killing him on WEEI this morning.

  6. crispybasil - Jun 28, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    Imagine if he didn’t go? “BUCHHOLZ CALLS IN SICK FOR CHARITY EVENT”

    • cur68 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:26 AM

      Crispy, that was my first thought exactly.

    • brewcrewfan54 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:26 AM

      That sounds about right.

    • nkilburne - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:43 AM

      He wasn’t scheduled to appear at this event. He was supposed to be on the West coast with the team.

      • brewcrewfan54 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:47 AM

        But he couldn’t be with his team so he went to this what’s the big deal?

      • cur68 - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:00 AM

        Who cares what his schedule was supposed to be. He had the time. It likely involved no effort. The team was away and probably he was asked to go and accepted because sitting around home feeling bummed is easily surpassed by company and friends at a charity party. Dog forbid the man do something more cheerful than mope around his house feeling unwell. And hey, lets not lose sight of the CHARITY EVENT thing here.

        What should be a Tip Of The Hat to Buchholz is being turned into a chickenshit attack on the guy.

      • giantschamps - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:03 AM

        Maybe he couldn’t fly? Or Maybe he couldn’t be that far away from his Dr’s. Can’t believe i’m defending a Boston player from their own shitty fans. Go yanks!!!

      • nkilburne - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:05 AM

        He couldn’t fly…I’m saying that no one would’ve questioned him for not showing up at a charity event he wasn’t scheduled to appear at. It was an asinine comment…

      • brewcrewfan54 - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:18 AM

        He wasn’t going to be joining his team in Seattle regardless so why question why he did go to this event?

    • drewsylvania - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:47 AM

      Post of the thread.

    • nightman13 - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:16 AM

      Some people = poop

  7. Cyn - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    From Boston and a Red Sox fan here. I’d love to say that the outrage about this is only limited to Toucher and Rich but the guys on their rival station are complaining about it to and it’s trickling down to the fans. My Twitter timeline this morning is full of arguments between fans (like me) who are saying “STFU it was a charity event who cares” and fans all up in arms telling me I should be very upset about this.

    Funny, no one complained that he wasn’t healthy enough to be at the park all day yesterday. Isn’t that at least as tiring as going to a charity event?

    I hate people. I really do.

  8. dcdrew10 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Beyond Toucher and Rich being clowns, the event that they are killing him for attending was for the charity of the host of a rival morning show (and if I recall correctly a more popular morning show). Toucher and Rich generate “buzz” in two ways: bashing Boston athletes and making stupid comments. This situation was a perfect chance for them to do both and put down a rival.

    • homelanddefense - Jul 2, 2012 at 11:58 AM

      you are 100% wrong about the “other show” being more popular than Toucher and Rich. T&R have been atop the morning rankings for a long time now. D&C have been as low as 4th from what I recall.

  9. kevinmcg - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    So, let’s get the facts straight here. Regarding the charity aspect, something doesn’t add up. The Red Sox are in Seattle, Buchholz stayed behind because he just got four pints of blood, can’t do more physical activity than walk outdoors, and just spent the better part of a week in the hospital where he was being fed via a tube for 72 hours. It’s not like this is some charity commitment the guy made months ago because he couldn’t have known he would be in the hospital. He would not have been disappointing sick children if he did not go, because there’s no way he would have or could have committed to be at this event in advance.

    What we’re left with is the situation that in the 24 hours following his release from the hospital, he committed to go to a pool party (charity or not) almost two hours away from Boston, while earlier in the day stating he can’t even run yet and still has to undergo tests to figure out why this even happened.

    He should have just stayed home.

    • digo2050 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:07 AM

      If he really planned on attending this charity event, he planned on being on the DL at this time of the year, because his teammates are in Seattle. Call me crazy, but the last place I’d want to be less than 24 hours after being in a hospital is at a casino/pool party.

    • cur68 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:34 AM

      Did he walk there? Or was he driven? When I saw Darnell McDonald at The Negro Leagues Baseball Museum this May in Kansas, he was driven to and from that and he was healthy, so lets assume Buchholz was driven, eh? Next, what did he have to do at the party? Drink? Carouse? Or, perhaps sit quietly through some speeches, maybe say a few words, then go home? Do you even know? From the sounds of things this is being twisted into a really big, really negative, media attack on a guy who was unwell but still trying to do a charitable thing. All of it with very few facts attached, just innuendo and twisted story telling. Its sickening.

      • homelanddefense - Jul 2, 2012 at 12:00 PM

        fromt he pics he and his buddies posted on twitter it looked more like a bunch of frat bros hitting up a pool party. They def werent sitting around thru some speeches.

      • cur68 - Jul 2, 2012 at 12:07 PM

        Get. Over. It.

      • homelanddefense - Jul 2, 2012 at 1:01 PM

        get over what? I havent said that I think he was in the wrong at all. But the notion that this was some sort of dress up and sit down for speeches event is incorrect.

  10. Cyn - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Yeah, riding in a car to an event where he probably sat around all night must have worn him out.

    If he was wel enough to sit in the dugout for the game yesterday he was well enough to go to a charity even at Foxwoods. The lengths people will go to find reasons to shit on the players in Boston is remarkable.

    • homelanddefense - Jul 2, 2012 at 1:03 PM

  11. danaking - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    I lived near Boston for a few years in the 80s and became a Red Sox fan. It has soured the last few years, in part because of the daily soap operas, generally inflamed by the local media. The Boston media have been asshats since at least the days of ted Williams. I think they now pride themselves on it, the way Phillies fans cherish their reputations as boo-ers.

    It’s a shame, too, as I appear to have been there during the golden age of Boston sports media. Peter Gammons, Bob Ryan, and Will McDonough wrote weekly information columns in the Globe (I forget who the hockey guy was), and Bob Lobel was always fun to watch at 11:00.

  12. chicknnbeer - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    You people are high.

    First off, let’s not make Buchholz out to be Mother Theresa here. Oh man, the struggle and sacrifice required to attend a charitable event at the MGM Grand pool. Wow, what a humanitarian. IF the event had been at Dorchester High School, there is NO DOUBT he would have cancelled. You people are dellusional for making him out to be a saint, he’s probably paid by the charity to be a sponsor to help raise funding for them anyways. But I’m sure the pool party was just too good to pass up. Great sacrifice Clay, please keep attending all the casino pool parties that the working man can’t for the greater good. WOW.

    Second. The Red Sox suffered the worst collapse in the history of baseball last year. Fans have a right to be angry with this mediocre collection of overpaid stiffs. What is wrong with holding a team to higher standards. Fans expect and deserve more for the highest ticket prices in baseball.

    Third. Who cares that he wasn’t drinking. If he was he’d probably be dead. The dude jsut got out of intensive care after a ton of internal bleeding. come on.

    You people defending this guy is exactly what is wrong with sports these days. Entitled athletes where no one holds them accountable.

    • drewsylvania - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

      Be angry at things actually WORTH getting angry about. Don’t latch onto some hack’s deliberate mischaracterization in order to complain. You’re making giant jumps of logic, as well as being illogical.

      Are you his doctor? Are you his wife? Do you know him? No? Then STFU about things you don’t know anything about.

      • cur68 - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:02 AM

        Agree.

    • nategearhart - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

      “IF the event had been at Dorchester High School, there is NO DOUBT he would have cancelled.”

      Since you know Clay personally, would you mind just asking him to explain himself for us? Thanks, that’d help a lot.

  13. stex52 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    I used to think that Sox players just were whiners. I’ve been travelling up there a bit lately to see family, and I have to revise my opinions. The media up there is crazy and mean.

  14. viewsfromseat13 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    so we want our athletes to go spend time in a bunker when they are not feeling well? I don’t after spending 3 days in the hospital and being told I am staying at home til past all star break, I personally might want to unwind while observing my doctors orders. as for touched and rich making a big deal of this, couldn’t be that the organizer has been a rival of their morning show for the last 5 years

    • chicknnbeer - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:18 AM

      Well, let me ask you this: would it have been a big deal for him to cancel??

      He doesn’t have to be a shut in. You wouldn’t see Tom Brady pull some dumb stuff like this, becasue he gets it. He’d probably stay local and low profile. He understands perception is reality.

      WAH WAH WAH…THE MEDIA…If guaranteed contracts aren’t motivation enough to perform then they are in the wrong profession. Baseball players are SO THIN SKINNED.

      • stex52 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:34 AM

        So you are saying it’s okay for the media to be psychos, the players just need to toughen up?

        “Perception is reality” is a pretty bad excuse for bad behavior.

      • drewsylvania - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:53 AM

        You try dealing with the Boston media and a-hole fans on a daily basis. We’lll see how thick your skin is.

      • nightman13 - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM

        In how many places would attending a charity event when you are unable to travel with the team be perceived as a bad thing? Apparently Boston, but definitely not where I’m from.

        As far as I know he wasn’t doing cannonballs or boozing it up, he was making an appearance. It’s no different than if he went to a park and walked around for a while.

        Grow up

  15. caitlin0621 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    I love people trying to make it out like fans and media in Boston are horrible people who do not care about charity! That could not be further from the truth. The fact is that this pitching staff is a bunch of undedicated lazy slobs so when a pitcher who is to weak to travel with his teammates is at a party (charity or not) fans are allowed to question it and be upset. Especially considering the Beckett golfing incident. And to the commenters saying the fan base would have been outraged if he didn’t show maybe you should know what you are talking about before you comment. The team is traveling on a road trip so unless this was a pre planned DL stint and illness Buchholz could not have been committed to being there.

    • chicknnbeer - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:21 AM

      “The team is traveling on a road trip so unless this was a pre planned DL stint and illness Buchholz could not have been committed to being there.”

      WOW. That is an excellent point that squashes this whole argument. nicely done.

      • lazlosother - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:53 AM

        Bucholz was asked to attend after he got out of the hospital, and after it had been determined that he would not travel with the team.

        While he feels OK for normal activity he hasn’t been cleared for baseball activities. The Red Sox organization did not have a problem with his attending. Maybe they think charities are a good thing to support. So unless he partied it up or engaged in strenuous physical activity, it would be difficult to find any fault with his being there.

        Unless of course, one is a hysterical asshat.

      • sabatimus - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:27 PM

        This “person” is a troll. Just look at his handle. Don’t feed the trolls.

      • nightman13 - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM

        In what world is that an excellent point or squash anything?

  16. bearclo33 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    What people from outside of Boston might not understand is that this team has a MAJOR character issue. It stems from the owners and trickles down to the entitled players. Most of the die hard fans are fed up and want them to get their heads out of their ass. This is just another example of why they dont “get it”. Clay Bucholtz reportedly received 4 pints of blood in the ICU 2 days ago and lost some weight. His estimated time of return to the field is anywhere from after the all star break to early August. By not traveling with the team and going to a Sky Vodka Pool Party at Foxwoods IS DUMB regardless of the fact it was for charity. Everyone knows what the atmosphere is like at a casino. Maybe he should be resting and not trying to be “brave” Craig Calcattera

    • nategearhart - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:50 PM

      YOU say “going to a Sky Vodka Pool Party at Foxwoods IS DUMB regardless of the fact it was for charity.” I say “going to a charity event IS NOBLE regardless of the fact that it’s at a pool party.”

  17. jp1462 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    Brave, really? Brave is firefighters, police officers and military personal who risk their lives for the greater good. Clay showed up to an alcohol sponsored event after being in the ICU and losing 4 pints of blood due to an illness that’s leading cause is alcohol abuse. The pitchers for this team have done nothing but spit in the face of Red Sox fans for the last 10 + months.

  18. nkilburne - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    Hey Craig, how about a little perspective & context…

    Toucher & Rich is a HUMOROUS radio show in Boston! Yes, they’re on a sports radio station, but they’re not sports writers or anything. They have fun with the headlines like this and, for the most part, openly mock them. This is one of those cases…if you took the time to LISTEN to the segment Rich was teasing with that tweet, you’d know that the guys just went into full-on mocking mode.

    Don’t believe me about the guys origins? Check out Boston Magazine’s expose on how Toucher & Rich ended up in sports talk in the first place… http://www.bostonmagazine.com/articles/2012/05/toucher-and-rich-sports-radio/

    Seriously, people…Boston’s not that bad, and this tweet/radio segment wasn’t mean or derogatory…

    • cur68 - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:52 AM

      Plenty of Bostonians replying to this are taking it seriously. Just read the comments section. I think its fair to say that your “HUMOROUS radio show” is representing a certain group here.

      • nkilburne - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:59 AM

        It’s because Red Sox fans are pissed at the way the team performed last September and that they seemingly carried that same attitude into the start of this season. The Red Sox’ starting rotation, in particular, have completely ignored public perception this season and done whatever the hell they wanted. Becket is by far the worst offender and has become the poster child of this whole thing.

        I don’t have a major problem with Buchholz going to Foxwoods for a charity event, but given all the facts, it’s pretty clear that if word got out he was at an event at Foxwoods, there was going to be some public backlash. I just wish the players I root for day in & day out gave the media & fans less of a reason to question their work ethic & common sense…

    • bigleagues - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:53 AM

      Fair enough. I’ll admit I haven’t listened to enough T&R to have realized that. But Gresh and Zo remain a joke – and not in the funny way.

      And Boston sports media on the whole is treacherous monster for the average fan to be exposed to. There is enough anxiety, pessimism and high-douchebagery in Boston sports media to share with and turn-off the entire country to the medium altogether . . . New York included – except they’d probably enjoy it too much.

    • drewsylvania - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:57 AM

      Someone once told me that Glenn Beck is not supposed to be taken seriously. Should I just tell that to the legions of nonthinking fools who worship the show? I’m sure that, once they find out, they’ll change their opinions wholesale and start being amused at the show instead.

      Not.

      • bigleagues - Jun 28, 2012 at 4:24 PM

        Glenn Beck shouldn’t be taken seriously. True.

        However, because Glenn Beck is taken seriously by and influences a rather substantial chunk of the (now-registered) electorate – his words cannot and should not be dismissed out of hand.

        The same can be said (to less important degree) of the Boston sports media. Too much of anything is not healthy. And BSM is like a daily diet of cheeseburgers, fries and cola – without the nutrition information printed on the packaging. You’ll keep eating it because it tastes good – until one day you realize how foolish you’ve been.

  19. bigleagues - Jun 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM

    Toucher and Rich are a joke. And beyond the afternoon drive show on that CBS O&O (I’ll presume that an NBC/Comcast owned blog has no interest in bad-mouthing a competing big media property in a Top 10 Market) there is NOTHING worth listening to on that largely LCD aimed station.

    Among the worst offenders are Gresh & Zolak – who love to Tweet other breaking news by other media properties without giving any credit (keep and eye on that Craig) – I had a prolonged Twitter war over that very issue. Not so much I care that their stealing other peoples content, but because they were reporting news via Twitter, as a teaser for their show, without citing a source – so I had no idea whether or not what they were saying was true.

    Basically the entire station (again, except Felger & Mazz) is ‘attitude sports radio’, hold the facts, hold the insight.

    • snaggs15 - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:09 AM

      Is bigleagues really John Dennis from WEEI? because I’ll take the unbiased sports-takes on 98.5 to the frauds at EEI with their heads in the sand.

      • bigleagues - Jun 28, 2012 at 4:14 PM

        Sports Hub unbiased? Sppppfffft. WhatEVAH, dude.

        Apathetic, perhaps.

        Most definitely they are resolved to take the opposite viewpoint . . . but that’s just bias against the bias.

        Last Fall, to the casual sports fan, I’m sure Massarotti came off as some sort of folk hero the way he went after John Henry. But to many others, myself included, he came off as a whiny twit who sounded incapable of separating fact from fiction (or just unwilling to).

        His self-serving rhetoric, served to negatively influence and mis-shape the thoughts of far too many Red Sox fans in Boston last Fall.

        The problem we have here in Boston sports media now is the younger generation of sports fans have no reference point. They have no concept of the fact that the Globe Sports section used to be the mecca of sports journalism.

        The day they hired “Mazz” away from the bottom feeding Herald, I knew it was the beginning of the end for the once hallowed landing ground for future Hall of Fame sports journalists. Ironically, nowadays I find more credibility in the pages of the Herald than I do in the Globe or Boston.com.

        The only reason I listen to “The Sports Hub” is for Felger. He’s consistent. He’s irreverent. And he does the rarest thing of all in Boston sports media . . . he admits when he is wrong. His partner on the other hand is a media conglomerate shill who writes to generate page views. He could care less whether or not what he is writing is right . . . or even makes any logical sense.

        And don’t even get me going about that bloated bowl floater Andy Gresh. That dude failed in Providence. Failed worse on Sirius. Then somehow by the grace of God finds himself in mid-days between two highly rated programs paired with a guy who is even dumber than he is.

        Two luckiest guys in Boston.

        WEEI is far from perfect. John Dennis often comes off as an old coot. Callahan is ornery wack-a-doodle Conservative, but I’m starting to think some of that is pure shtick.

        Mutt is the most transparently intentionally ignorant guy on Boston sports radio. He is the guy who believes its his job to voice the populist fan sentiment even when he doesn’t believe that sentiment for a second. It’s so friggin annoying.

        I went off on him one day when he was advocating for Aaron Cook to join the Sox rotation – as if Cook was the likes of Andy Pettitte coming out of retirement (first time I had called in six months, because I couldn’t believe what I was hearing.). Lou just sat back and listened – probably turned off his mic and laughed – because he knew I was 100% correct about how dumb Mutt’s take on Cook was.

        Merloni is one of the few respectable guys on Boston sports radio. Why? I believe it’s because he is 50% former-Major League athlete and 50% regular everyday guy. He knows how both sides think and perceive things. Basically, he’s not a douche and that’s one of the highest compliments I can pay anyone on the radio in Boston.

        Ordway’s shtick has been around for many many years. The best thing he did was boot that rotating panel of gluttonous slobbering homers in favor of Michael Holley – one of the few respectable journalists left in Boston – except he’s no longer a ‘journalist’.

        Mike Adams is 100% pure shtickcoma and he makes no secret about it. He says some of the dumbest things imaginable, but if you’ve been following Adams as long as I have – it comes off fairly harmless if not inane. Not enough people listen at night for it to truly matter . . . but just enough to keep him employed.

        He is often saved by the one guy in Boston sports media with a strong common sense and ability to sift through the endless BS that the likes of the Sports Hub produces . . . John Ryder.

        Now if you think that WEEI is biased, then just wait until Sports Hub wrestles a flagship contract away from WEEI – just watch how quickly your favorite half-wits turn into green-teamers and red-suckers if they don’t get fired first.

  20. chicknnbeer - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    in regards putting up with a-hole media and fanbase, I have no sympathy for them. After all, as they say, “this is why they get paid the big bucks”

    • drewsylvania - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:40 AM

      Money can’t change an invented narrative, unless you spend huge amounts subsiziding your own PR department (which would have to rival the entire Boston media’s spin cycle).

  21. chicknnbeer - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Also, do you people from outside Boston understand how much $$$$ it takes for a family of four to attend a regular season game? You are talking close to $600 to enjoy yourselves.

    • cur68 - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM

      So you SHOULD be behind a guy who was NOT medically cleared to fly but WAS cleared to attend this event, turning up to support POOR PEOPLE who have had tragedy strike them, no? Or does the irony of these statements you keep making totally elude you?

      • chicknnbeer - Jun 28, 2012 at 11:16 AM

        Seriously? HE’S NOT MOTHER THERESA for attending a pool party at MGM grand. get a clue. Would he have attended the event if it was at the Stonington CT public library? unlikely.

      • cur68 - Jun 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM

        Yep. Irony = eluded. On the one hand bitching about costs, on the other castigating a player for lending his name and presence to help others with costs. Nice.

        I guess the fact that he had just been unwell and might have felt some sympathy for others in the same position but without the financial wherewithal he has, doesn’t play with your ass-hurt take on anything, eh?

        I think I’m done replying to anything further you have say. Its not like you’re anything more than an ignorant tool with a big chip on your shoulder. Nothing I have to type here is going to change you.

    • paperlions - Jun 28, 2012 at 10:46 AM

      $600? Really?

      I bought tickets from the Red Sox web page to a game for $35/per (including all of the convenience fees) that were nice seats only a couple weeks before the game…so that would be $140….took the subway to get there, that’s a few bucks….so you spend $450 on concessions at Fenway for 2 adults and 2 kids?

      • chicknnbeer - Jun 28, 2012 at 11:29 AM

        Please note that I said “Enjoy yourselves”. Thanks for actually reading my post. My guess is you sat in the bleachers or right field grandstand which is anything but enjoyable. here’s how I came up with 600:

        $80 x 4 good tickets= $320
        Parking= $40
        Food and beverages x 4= $100
        T-shirt x 2 = $60
        program= $10

        Ok, so that a conservative estimate and I’m up to $530 already. But you see where i’m headed. thanks for being a smart-a not sure why so many people (pink hats) are so supportive of this group of entitled underacheivers.

      • themuddychicken - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:16 PM

        Underachieving to the tune of winning 9 of their last 11 games, and a 11-3-1 record in their last 14 series played, all while enduring injuries for pitchers and anyone who so much as steps foot in the outfield, at times ineffective pitching, and getting underwhelming performance from the superstar right side of the infield. The team never does anything right.

        Anyway, if you need to spend $600 to have any fun at a baseball game at Fenway, that’s on you.

  22. townballblog - Jun 28, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    For those of you who don’t know, Toucher and Rich are a bunch of idiots. Their terrible ratings contributed to one of Boston’s most historic rock radio stations, WBCN to be turned into a top-40 station.

    They now work as the morning show in Boston’s new sports talk radio station. They’re not sports reporters, they are whatever gets them paid.

    They’re also now a part of one of the worst sports talk radio city in the country, Boston.

  23. holdenqcaulfield - Jun 28, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    townballblog, their terrible ratings??? They are crushing the ratings right now time after time, because they are worth a listen they make talk radio and sports talk fun and relevant. I’d love to hear what area you come from that has such a great sports talk selection, I’ve traveled all over the place and can’t say anywhere is really that much different.

    As for the blog post Craig you just need to lighten up, step back and understand why this is a story. This is a story because of the way these players treat sickness/injuries after blowing up internally last season. Two of the top 3 pitchers this year have been hurt or sick and have found the strength to get themselves out but not to one of their team’s games but instead to either a round of golf or a pool party at a local casino.

    Toucher and Rich weren’t mocking the event being for charity or that it was Hill’s charity, they went so far as to say that he had a much bigger following and they’d have loved to be invited, seeing as Rich is the President of the Miracle League they love giving back and donations. They also understand injuries and sicknesses need time to heal so getting out of the hospital and ending up at a casino charity event does not look good for you. That is calling out of work for being sick and being caught that night out at a casino charity event, no one cares the event was for charity they care that you either a) lied or b) weren’t resting and taking care of yourself to get back to work ASAP.

    Another boston bashing write up by some writer who has never really followed the individuals involved and happened to come across this who cares how. This is what they do, their job is to get people listening and hyped up about boston sports and this is a way to do it, find someone doing something they probably shouldn’t have done. Admirable he showed up, helping out charities is always a great thing and helps bring in more money, but there are times when you have to step back and say is this the best decision right now based on the circumstances?

    • cur68 - Jun 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM

      Buchholz treats sickness and injury by going to a charity event in support of families that have suffered with sickness and injury right after he’s been sick and ill. How are you missing that this is a GOOD THING to have done? What precisely did he do there that so irks you? So far the big controversy is that he went at all. Big friggin deal. He was probably driven there. He probably ate a meal and chatted with some people. Probably sped up his recovery from all the good feeling. The only way that this is a negative story is if YOU WANT TO MAKE IT ONE. If anything’s set back his recovery is all this asshattery over him being a decent person.

    • townballblog - Jun 29, 2012 at 12:12 AM

      I’d love to tell you what area I’m from…Boston. And I was refering to the ratings at WBCN, a great station they ruined. As for their ratings now, beating the competition (who is on an AM frequency and are just as terrible, hardly means crushing it).

  24. timpaz - Jun 28, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    And I used to think the think the Philly media were morons.

  25. neelyisgod - Jun 28, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    I liked John Dennis more when he was on WHDH. 4 mins tops is about all I can take from him anyway so reporting sports on the local news was just perfect.

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