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Dodgers, Astros discuss Carlos Lee. Jed Lowrie to stay put.

Jun 29, 2012, 11:30 PM EDT

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Update 3: Rosenthal indicates that right-hander Garrett Gould could be the primary return if Carlos Lee is dealt to the Dodgers. Again, it’s highly unlikely Zach Lee would be involved in such a trade.

Update 2: Olney confirms that it’s Carlos Lee that the Dodgers and Astros are discussing at the moment. Previous talks did involve Lowrie, but he’s no longer involved. Olney still puts the odds of a deal at 50-50.

If traded, Lee would take over as the Dodgers’ primary first baseman, leaving James Loney without much of a role. The Astros could take Loney back in such a deal for salary purposes, but they’re primarily interested in acquiring pitchers.

Update 1: Sources tell’s Ken Rosenthal that the talks involve Carlos Lee, not Lowrie, which would also seem to suggest that Zach Lee is not involved. The Dodgers won’t be giving up top prospects for Carlos Lee, that’s for sure. Also, Carlos Lee has a partial no-trade clause and could choose to block a deal.


ESPN’s Buster Olney is reporting that the Astros and Dodgers are discussing a deal that would send shortstop Jed Lowrie to Los Angeles for two of the team’s top pitching prospects: right-handers Zach Lee and Garrett Gould.

A source told Olney it’s about 50-50 to get done and there could be other names involved.

Lowrie, who didn’t play Thursday against the Cubs, leads all major league shortstops with 14 homers this year and is hitting .262/.350/.492 overall. The Astros acquired him and right-hander Kyle Weiland from the Red Sox for Mark Melancon over the winter.

Lee rates as the Dodgers’ best prospect. Given a $5.25 million bonus two years ago to keep him away from an LSU football scholarship, he’s gone 2-3 with a 4.26 ERA and a 59/13 K/BB ratio in 61 1/3 innings in the minors this season. 12 of his 13 starts came at high-A Rancho Cucamonga, but he was just promoted to Double-A. He was recently picked for the U.S. team in the Futures Game.

Gould, a 2009 second-round pick, is 1-6 with a 5.14 ERA and a 72/24 K/BB ratio in 72 innings for Rancho Cucamonga. While Lee could have a future as a No. 2 starter if things break right, Gould is probably more of a No. 4.

It’d seem to be a very good return for the Astros. Lowrie is having a terrific season, but he has a long injury history and he’s a bit below average defensively at shortstop. Cashing him in while his value is at its highest would be a nice move.

As for the Dodgers, Lowrie would certainly give the offense a boost if he keeps hitting like this. It’d be interesting to see what they’d do with him, though. Making him the regular shortstop and sending down Dee Gordon for additional season would make sense, but the team could also choose to use him at third over Juan Uribe and Jerry Hairston Jr.

  1. theawesomersfranchise - Jun 29, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    What did the Sox get for him again?

    • jwbiii - Jun 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

      Mostly Scott Podsednik.

      • stex52 - Jun 30, 2012 at 12:57 PM

        Melancon from Houston. I don’t remember what other deals went with that.

  2. zice03 - Jun 29, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Terrible, give up our best prospect for that. Maybe of was a big bat but that come on. That has me feeling like years past where we give up talent for guy who end up being average. Keep Lee. That’s my vote. Kastan step up your game and make good moves. We don’t need two Ned’s

  3. zice03 - Jun 29, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    Take our time and make solid deals not rush decisions. Sure we would need Lee to get Encarnacion That’s a bat. We need production not average players. What the hell is going on. Month left and already thinking of giving up top prospect for average. Horrible. No change

  4. randygnyc - Jun 29, 2012 at 10:59 PM

    Are the dodgers really going to give up on Gordon?

    • jwbiii - Jun 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

      Never give up on Gordon.

  5. jkaflagg - Jun 29, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Astros will take Gordon for Lowry straight up – deal ?

    • rohlo - Jul 1, 2012 at 3:27 AM

      hell no!!!

  6. theawesomersfranchise - Jun 29, 2012 at 11:36 PM

    Ahhh Carlos Lee, makes more sense

  7. mikeincmn - Jun 30, 2012 at 12:18 AM

    Typical Ned Colletti deal, trade a quality young player for a washed up veteran who brings pretty much nothing to the table anymore.

    I honestly dont see what Carlos would bring to the table that you couldnt potentially get out of derrek lee. But then again this is Ned doing the dealing so im sure he sees in Carlos Lee the same things he saw in Juan Uribe, Juan Rivera, Mark Ellis, Matt Guerriar or the other 10 washed up vets he overpaid for.

  8. jwbiii - Jun 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

    Has anyone asked Carlos Lee about this? He has five and dimer rights, lives on a ranch outside of Houston, and has said he doesn’t want to leave in the past. Next season, Houston will have a defensive position that he is qualified to play.

    • jwbiii - Jun 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM

      Fail, jwbiii. Lee does not have five and dimer rights, he signed them away in his last contract. The Dodgers are on his limited no trade list, though.

  9. wj4122 - Jun 30, 2012 at 1:43 AM

    Zach lee is not going anywhere. Kasten is not that dumb. Dodgers need a bat at first and they are willing to eat up his disgusting contract so they would not have to deal any top 5 prospects. As much as they need the help i question how much Carlos lee will impact them. Go Dodger Blue!!

  10. js20011041 - Jun 30, 2012 at 6:57 AM

    I think this would be a bad move for the Dodgers but I can understand it from Colletti’s side of things. The Dodgers have had kind of a fluky run of success which has made him look good so far. With the new ownership coming in, this isn’t about necessarily winning a world series this year. It’s about survival. I think Colletti is thinking solely about having enough success to justify him keeping his job.

  11. stex52 - Jun 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM

    Would be good for Houston. Carlos is still a steady bat, but the power is way down and he just gets too much money for what he brings to the game anymore. But I think he will veto the trade. He likes Houston.

  12. jengibre23 - Jun 30, 2012 at 9:56 PM

    Dodgers just need to get rid of loney because he is garbage. Carlos lee won’t be a huge lift but a push in the right direction

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