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Bud Selig takes Tony La Russa’s side on the Cueto/Greinke All-Star controversy

Jul 3, 2012, 8:23 AM EDT

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This should not be terribly surprising given that La Russa and Selig have a pretty close relationship as far as these things go, but for what it’s worth, the Commissioner has La Russa’s back on the Zack Greinke and Johnny Cueto snubs:

“Well let me just say this, Tony will answer all questions about his team. But you look at the list of pitchers, and I went over that with Tony, and I think in the end there were a lot of pitchers available. And I think in the end, they picked their strongest staffs.

I guess I’m most curious about the “I went over that with Tony” line. Really? Selig goes over the All-Star rosters himself with the managers?  I can’t decide what I think of that. I sorta want to like it, and it certainly ties in with what we know of Selig’s genuine, almost fan-like interest in the sport he runs. But I’m also kind of surprised that he takes the time to do that.  Oh well.

  1. flyerscup2010 - Jul 3, 2012 at 8:33 AM

    at first glance, i legitimately thought it said “fan-like interest in the sport he ruins.” i’m disappointed it doesn’t say “ruins” because that would probably be more accurate than “runs.”

    • paperlions - Jul 3, 2012 at 8:43 AM

      Except, of course, it wouldn’t be accurate at all, because, despite how annoying he is and despite the relatively minor things we complain about, baseball is still great and the MLB season is still great. Yeah, it’s completely ruined…in this case, I believe attendance and viewership are actually good arguments.

      • stex52 - Jul 3, 2012 at 8:55 AM

        I have this seething need to dislike Selig. But you are right. MLB is doing great.

        Just so he burns in Hell for forcing DH ball on Houston.

      • CJ - Jul 3, 2012 at 9:00 AM

        it’s true he hasn’t ruined baseball. but it’s also true that baseball’s great in spite of Selig, who seems to have an impeccable record of taking the wrong side on every public issue in baseball. It takes a ton of hard work and loathe of the game to keep up a track record like that.

      • paperlions - Jul 3, 2012 at 9:15 AM

        Completely agree. He hasn’t done much to improve the product. But I do like interleague play (I like the different matchups that you wouldn’t get to see otherwise, yes who cares about San Diego vs Seattle….but then, who cares about Houston vs Pittsburgh?) and no one can effectively argue that the wild card hasn’t been good for baseball.

      • Francisco (FC) - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:40 AM

        yes who cares about San Diego vs Seattle….but then, who cares about Houston vs Pittsburgh?

        And next year you can still have both.

      • earlnash - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

        Take a look at this rant about how to change the All-Star game selection process; it has a Bud Light photo and angle. I would love to hear YOUR ideas!

        http://bosoxinjection.com/2012/06/28/all-star-game-player-selection-new-rules-this-buds-for-you/

    • donaldduckmg42 - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM

      I hear you, especially as an Astros fan. Moving Brewers to NL and Astros to AL, 2005 World Series, Hurricane Ike game at Milwaukee, Colt 45 uniform controversy… He continues to shaft my Astros left and right. And onto more general issues. When all these blown calls on foul balls and our calls on force plays that blatantly express the need for instant replay, what does he talk about? Getting rid of the fake to third look to first move. Come on man!!! I’ve had enough of Selig

    • kinger69 - Jul 3, 2012 at 6:06 PM

      bud seelig needs to retire! he has totally screwed up all star game

    • kinger69 - Jul 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM

      bud seelig needs to retire! he has totally screwed up the all star game!

  2. urdoingitwrongreds - Jul 3, 2012 at 8:45 AM

    I would have put money on his statement being “ASG attendance is up”

  3. paperlions - Jul 3, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    “Attendance for a Monday in early July, with sweltering heat throughout much of the continent, was great. That indicates that we don’t need to change the way All-Star teams are picked or to question the great Tony LaRussa’s choices.”

    –Allan “Bud” Selig, 2 July 2012

  4. metalhead65 - Jul 3, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    what a shock bud sticks up fot the guy who should not even be managing the team.he retired that means he no longer is the manager of the team that won the series so he should not be the manager for the all star team. he knew exactly what he was doing when he made the choices and once again he could have avoided any appearance of being petty by doing the right thing. that would be naming Cueto to the team then naming someone else to replace himm when he could not pitch. as for Phillips deny all you want he only named Bruce to the team so he could say he was not holding anything against the reds. no reason to add the players he did and say he had no room for him. anybody who actually watches the game instead of your precious saber metrics knows there is nobody better defensivly at second than him.

    • stlouis1baseball - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:35 AM

      Metalhead: I will break it down for you once again.
      TLR had (6) selections (after the mandated player rep’s from each team).
      Hamels? Papplebon? Kershaw? Bruce? Ruiz? Desmond?
      Who should he have been left off so Cueto or Phillips (or both) could be on the team?
      Conspiracy? Grudge? A coniving scheme? Please. Don’t flatter yourself.
      LET. IT. GO.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:04 AM

        Who should he have been left off so Cueto or Phillips (or both) could be on the team?

        As I mentioned yesterday, I could make an argument that Cueto > Hamels, and that a starter (Cueto) is more valuable than a reliever (Papelbon).

        Also, what’s with the copy/paste job and bad Papelbon spelling?

    • saints97 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:50 AM

      For what it’s worth, the metrics (UZR, anyway) show Phillips to be an outstanding fielder. I am not sure why you would attack sabermetrics here. Then again, you do have some odd views on things. I guess that’s about par for the course.

      • metalhead65 - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM

        I do it because when someone disagrees with with me and who does not follow or watch him play always tosses out a metric to try and show he is not that good when I just watched him make a play where stopped a ball and started a double play by flipping the ball between his legs to the shortstop.or other amazing plays he has made that are sportscenter highlights in addition to the routine plays he makes.

      • paperlions - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:22 AM

        Do you watch Aaron Hill play? Or Dan Uggla? Or Jose Altuve?

        You don’t? Then your opinion on them doesn’t count for a hill of beans, I guess.

        For position players, offense is still far more important than defense, as run prevention is mostly the responsibility of the pitcher. Of course defense is important, but not nearly as much as offense (for example, a guy that can’t hit a lick will rarely be a starter no matter how good his defense, but many players that can mash will start despite not being able to play any defense), as a package there are a number of viable 2B candidates in the NL this year….some of which have been clearly better than Phillips.

  5. vallewho - Jul 3, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Nothing says “integrity” like Bud Selig and Tony La Russa “going over” something.

  6. delawarephilliesfan - Jul 3, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Well that settles it then. I mean, can anyone name an instance when Bud Selig was wrong?

    Well, other than Steroids, instant replay, contraction, declaring All Star games a tie, forcing the Astros to play Playoff run home games on the road, Dodgers and Mets ownership scandals, games in Japan, suspending Indians players while an owner of the Brewers, the 2008 World Series mis-haps, 9/11 baseball caps…..other than that, what has the guy ever been wrong about?

    • stex52 - Jul 3, 2012 at 9:22 AM

      I had blotted the Hurricane Ike Astros road travesty out of my mind. Probably because I lived on the coast and was busy cleaning up. Thanks for helping my regain my focus.

      I really loathe that jerk!

    • paperlions - Jul 3, 2012 at 9:22 AM

      Yeah, because ALL of those were his ideas.

      He told players to take steroids and EVERYONE in the world was shouting steroids while only Bud ignored them. Yep, that is exactly how it happened.

      And it was Bud’s fault that the managers of the AS team used up all of their pitchers.

      And it was Bud’s that the Dodger, Met, and Ranger owners were idiots (Selig doesn’t actually approve new ownership, the owners do. Bud doesn’t get a vote, he’s the mouth piece).

      And bud is the head of marketing of MLB and a graphic designer that came up with 9/11 caps and all that.

      The guy is an ass, but you are missing the mark with just about all these shots.

      • delawarephilliesfan - Jul 3, 2012 at 9:46 AM

        Gee, if I didn’t know better, I’d swear that was a pro-Bud comment you made.

        My comment was that Bud Selig made wrong choices in all of those situations, not that he personally injected steriods or caused a Hurricane. I kind of thought when I kept using the word “wrong” that would indicate I was refering to choices he made. Make sense now?

      • stex52 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:07 AM

        But at some point he has some ownership of all of these issues. It goes with the big bucks.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 3, 2012 at 9:47 AM

      suspending Indians players while an owner of the Brewers

      Is this something from yesteryear, because I’m pretty sure Selig had to give up his ownership when he became commissioner (granted his family maintained ownership, but that’s not Selig’s doing). And isn’t there a position in MLB that handles punishment, not Selig himself?

      games in Japan

      What’s wrong with these?

      • delawarephilliesfan - Jul 3, 2012 at 9:53 AM

        Yes, he had to act on Albert Belle back when we was in charge of the group running Baseball post-Fey Vincent

        http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-06-15/news/9606150044_1_selig-and-reinsdorf-major-league-baseball-interim-commissioner-bud-selig

        Not that I disgaree with the punishment they gave, but he should have recused himself

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:20 AM

        Ah gotcha, although ’96 was a bit of a long time ago don’t you think?

      • stlouis1baseball - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:29 AM

        “As I mentioned yesterday, I could make an argument that Cueto > Hamels, and that a starter (Cueto) is more valuable than a reliever (Papelbon).”
        Oh I saw your response Church. I just don’t agree with you.
        In the ASG no one throws more than an inning or two anyway.
        So (in my opinion)…in this instance your Closer theory doesn’t carry any weight.
        Further, I feel you actually helped my argument in that there really aren’t any bad selections. Personally, you could make a case for Bruce NOT being deserving.
        But all-in-all…they are fine selections nonetheless.

        “Also, what’s with the copy/paste job and bad Papelbon spelling?”
        Thanks for your help with editing Mrs. Reynolds!

      • delawarephilliesfan - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:04 PM

        “Ah gotcha, although ’96 was a bit of a long time ago don’t you think?”

        You calling me old? ;)

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM

        You calling me old?

        Not like I said 1896 :)

        Oh I saw your response Church. I just don’t agree with you.

        Ok, but whether you agree or not has no bearing on whether someone could be a better representative than Hamels.

        re: Papelbon – point taken, but he could still replace him and nothing says the pitcher only has to go one inning

        bad selections – don’t think there necessarily is, just you asked for reasons why you’d replace them, and I obliged :)

    • brewcrewfan54 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:05 AM

      Games in Japan, hats, the guy should be executed! Astros fan have a legit complaint about that series that was moved to Milwaukee. Everything else is just complaining to complain.

      • delawarephilliesfan - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:07 AM

        Bud is an idiot, and people who say so are not “complaining to complain”. You know as well as everyone else that the list of his brain cramps could have gone on for a full page.

      • brewcrewfan54 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:13 AM

        Its always easy to 2nd guess someone when you know what the outcome was.

      • paperlions - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM

        Plus if you focus your complaints on Bud you are just doing what the owners want you to do and what the current version of the position is designed for…..to deflect criticism to a figure head that is not attached to a particular team. The commissioner is the messenger to be shot. He actually doesn’t make many decisions, he just announces them and “owns” them so that owners don’t have to….you know why Bud has had the job for so long and is paid so well?

        Because he does exactly what the owners (who hired and pay him) want him to do….he absorbs all the blame and never ever directs it toward the owners.

    • stlouis1baseball - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:44 AM

      “Gee, if I didn’t know better, I’d swear that was a pro-Bud comment you made.”
      Delaware: After reading all of Paper’s posts on Bud Selig even I am starting to wonder if he fixes Buds computers or something.
      In fact…I have convinced myself he is on Bud’s payroll in some capacity.

  7. umrguy42 - Jul 3, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    Apparetnly, Cueto may file a grievance over this. Funny. Good luck with that one – picking All Stars is the managers’ prerogative. (And if Dusty wants Cueto to be an All Star, well, Dusty, win the WS, then you get to pick who *you* like.)

    But I love the continued comments “but Cueto would’ve made an extra $25K if he was an All Star”. And that’s TLR’s problem, how? Does anybody think he looked over Cueto’s contract, saw that clause and went, “hmm, I can really screw him over on this one! Ha ha!” Keeping him out because of the brawl, yes, I’ll buy that as part of the reason (TLR needing more lefties, after which he didn’t need more pitchers, sounds like a much bigger reason to me, knowing TLR, though), but not the money thing.

    • stlouis1baseball - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:41 AM

      42: Shhhhh! It’s all a big scheme.
      TLR is coniving to destroy the NL’s chances. All in the name of NOT adding two Reds players.
      He has a grudge. He has a vendetta. He is intentionally throwing the game.
      Wow. Some people flatter themselves a great deal.

  8. brewcrewfan54 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    I’m not sure why Selig going over the roster is a surprise. There was obviously potential impropriety with some of the picks. Its also not a surprise Selig sided with LaRussa because there’s no way he’s going to publicly admit that the guy managing the NL squad this year is a grudge holding ass hole. And I don’t think Bud believes LaRussa’s reasoning either but unless LaRussa admits it what can Bud say?

    • stex52 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:08 AM

      What impropriety? He chooses a few names. It’s a popularity contest. I frankly think the ASG is not worth all of the hot air it blows up. I haven’t watched one in years.

      • brewcrewfan54 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:15 AM

        The potential impropriety being the reason why this article is here today.

    • stlouis1baseball - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM

      “The potential impropriety being the reason why this article is here today.”
      I think you may put too much stock in Craig’s decisions on which articles to right.
      I like his writing (for the most part).
      But he (like a lot of writers)…tends to write about things that draw headlines and page views. That’s sort of their job. It doesn’t mean there is any merit to it whatsoever.
      Case in point: The Torii Hunter (racist cops) article from a few months back.

      • stex52 - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:19 PM

        Agreed, SLB. The fact that an article appears on this website has very little bearing on its importance in the world (or even to the world of baseball).

        BTW, I’ve been watching you beat your brains out for the last two days on the way TLR made his picks. Brave effort, but when we turn into fanboys around here reason goes out the window.

  9. lpd1964 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    Let’s see, Commissioner Bud is ok with what Ladummy did. The All-star game decides home field advantage in the World Series but yet the best players aren’t there. As long as the fans vote, the all-star game should be nothing more than an exhibition. Brandon Belt finished second to Joey Votto-need I say more?

  10. saints97 - Jul 3, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    I wish someone would do an anonymous survey of players about why they didn’t vote for him. I think Reds fans would be surprised, because it has nothing to do with stats or on field performance (except his performance of Dominican jiu jitsu). The fact is that his fellow players don’t like him any more than LaRussa does.

  11. footballchic777 - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    Yeah, right Bud! When was that that you went over that line-up with Tony? When you were trying to cover his butt for screwing over players that should have made the roster! Fans are SO tired of commissioners!

  12. chucklewis13 - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Would you expect a comment any different from that of a used car saleman like Bud. Both Bud and LaRusso are maniacal, selfabsorbed, egositical twits. Bud knows that Tony bent the Reds over by not naming Cueto or Phillips to the ASG. To try to cover his azz, LaRusso, who has always phantomed himself as being smarter than anyone else, threw a rue in by selecting Bruce who had to ASG credentials. LaRusso may be a good manager but as a human being, he is a repulsive, annoying and is a self righteous troll. That’s my story and I am sticking to it.

  13. ufullpj - Jul 3, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Look, Greinke deserves to be on the roster, so do a few other guys. LaRussa is not well-liked, at all, by most of Milwaukee’s players, and the difference between LaRussa and Ozzie Guillen is that Ozzie will be honest when asked if he ordered someone drilled.

    As for Bud, well, he helped negotiate the worst TV deal (for the fans) in all of sports. I love how passionate fans pay $$$ for MLB extra innings, MLB.TV, etc. only to have Fox get exclusive airtime on Saturdays and not make the games they aren’t showing in over-the-air markets available via one of the many ways fans pay for such a privilege.

    The NFL does it, and ironically, as a much smaller supply and an even greater demand…they could leverage the scarcity principle, but do not. MLB could be even bigger than it is now, but it won’t under Selig’s horrendous marketing watch.

  14. earlnash - Jul 3, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    My Dear Fellow Fans of The Game…
    Take a look at this rant about how to change the All-Star game selection process; it has a Bud Light photo and angle. I would love to hear YOUR ideas!

    http://bosoxinjection.com/2012/06/28/all-star-game-player-selection-new-rules-this-buds-for-you/

  15. dude1974 - Jul 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Wow. All this hate for Larussa? Sounds like someone’s teams got steamrolled last year.

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