Orioles: They have Thome as a DH right now. I love Thome (prettiest swing ever <just an opinion) but he won't stick around and he is no Ortiz. I just read the article that the Orioles owner is willing to spend on Greinke so why not?

Red Sox: However, the have Ryan Lavarnway waiting who can also catch and give Salty the day off here and there.

Yankees: self explanatory.

Tigers: 5th highest salary. However, they have Victor Martinez so maybe not.

Royals: Just kidding.

Angels: Bare with me here. If they move Bourjos then Morales becomes everyday OF (he came up as an OF) and Trumbo takes many a reps at 3B. Hey, it can happen.

Rangers: If they move Young (16M) and Cruz (9.5M), which they might even do before this year is over, Ortiz would fit in quite nicely and he can be DH everyday.

Lastly, my favorite possibility….the new jewel of the AL, the Houston Astros! Hey, it could happen.

Since you are a DH, that means that you are getting paid more than $14,500,000 per YEAR to do WHAT? – to hit a baseball either into fair territory out of the reach of marauding outfielders or just out of whatever damn park you happen to be in at the time between 28 & 30% of the time that you come to bat.

What’s the problem?

Better yet – GET OVER IT

do you think that falls in line with stiffs that he is complaining about?

it’s quite possible he’s referring to Gonzalez as one. But also look at guys like Crawford (7/$142M or $20.3M/year) or Lackey (5/$82.5M or $16.5M/year), those guys haven’t done anything since they were signed, and both have a higher AAV on their contracts than Ortiz has ever enjoyed.

Look, I’m not saying what Ortiz is saying is right. I’m saying I understand where he’s coming from. The money in these situations is so foreign to us, merely saying “lawl give me $15M a year and I’ll dance in a monkey suit AND LIKE IT” isn’t equivalent. Knock a few zeroes off their salaries so now we’re talking $120K vs $12M. Does it now make sense? If you were one of the best employees for your company for the last 10 years, and some hotshot comes in making 150% more than you ever made, and even after another great year you still make less annually than they do, wouldn’t you be pissed?

I would feel much better about this ranting if it were along the lines of how these signings have diluted playoff chances recently etc, not about David Ortiz being owed more respect and/or money.

@copo

So trading for Gonzalez and signing him to an extension, do you think that falls in line with stiffs that he is complaining about? I don’t think there is much argument that the Red Sox have made bad free agent signings on position players / starters recently but Hafner and Dunn are the only DH’s I can think that have received huge contracts explicitly as a DH and how have they fared?

I understand the frustration with most recent signings as a fan of the Red Sox. But seriously, why would you publicly make comments like this? Why not just put your head down, mouth shut, hit the shit out of the ball and then make a statement by walking right out of Boston? This is no way to garner respect…

The fact that he thinks any of us non-rich, spoiled, entitled, out-of-touch athletes should give a damn shows what a clueless moron he is.

I count about 39 “position” players who have a higher 2012 fWAR than David Ortiz has. 5 of them make more than 14.75 million.

I’m utterly shocked that people who get credit for defense can have a higher fWAR than a guy who doesn’t, and thus gets automatically docked, in a compilation stat. Shocked I tell you!

/sarcasm off

However, Ortiz is 8th in all of baseball in batting runs (2nd in the AL behind Josh Hamilton). He’s a really good hitter. If the Sox wanted to they could stick him at first and even with average defense he’d be worth a lot more.

As for your comment, Ortiz wasn’t whining about money: he was talking about security and respect. He doesn’t appreciate that the Red Sox are telling him that he’s a year-to-year player who is going to be dropped if he has one bad year while they’ve be willing to make long term commitments to guys like Dice-K, who hadn’t prior to signing the contract ever proven a thing, and to other guys who have proven their worth (as Ortiz has repeatedly) but aren’t being asked to do it over and over again.

I think Ortiz has earned the right to trade on his good name with the Red Sox organization.

Really Church? He whined like a little girl to the media.

Where is he whining? Y’all realize that he didn’t cold call Bob Ryan at the Globe and say, Hey Bob, I want you to write a story about how the Sox f’d me over last year. Most likely he was responding to a question that was asked of him. Second, is it whining to point out that management has been spending more money on unproven players than the ones who’ve produced, year in and year out?

He didn’t ask for a raise, he wanted job security. In this economy, isn’t that something that we can all agree on? If at the end of the year you had to stand in front of your boss to talk about the following year’s work, who among us would take a raise over the knowledge that we’ll be employed for an additional year?

The way to combat this is to sign for the one year deal (work your ass off in the process)…and then sign elsewhere when the one year deal is over.

Yes, he can do this, but what is the harm in asking for more years, even at less money. Now he could have been talking out his ass, but an AAV of less money but for an additional year is what the guy asked for. Where’s the harm?

I am well aware of him being on the downside of his career.

Except he really isn’t. Last three years full years and this one:

’09 – .238/.332/.462, .224 ISO, .340 wOBA, 99 wRC+, 0.3 fWAR
’10 – .270/.370/.529, .259 ISO, .380 wOBA, 133 wRC+, 2.6 fWAR
’11 – .309/.398/.554, .246 ISO, .405 wOBA, 153 wRC+, 4.2 fWAR
’12 – .302/.391/.607, .305 ISO, .410 wOBA, 157 wRC+, 2.4 fWAR (ZIPS proj 4.4 fWAR)

He’s back to hitting (against league average) like he was in ’04 to ’06.

He is leading the league in Whining Above Average though.