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	<title>Comments on: Orioles &#8220;going hard&#8221; after Brewers ace Zack Greinke</title>
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		<title>By: hodaghunter</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/orioles-going-hard-after-brewers-ace-zack-greinke/comment-page-1/#comment-325645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hodaghunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 04:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A &quot;rental&quot; pitcher can change a lot in a half of season. Just ask any Brewer fan about what CC did for them in that half of season. CC carried the crew to the playoffs by starting games on short rest for an entire month. Crew made it, without ben sheets contributing anything or Jeff Suppan helping out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A &#8220;rental&#8221; pitcher can change a lot in a half of season. Just ask any Brewer fan about what CC did for them in that half of season. CC carried the crew to the playoffs by starting games on short rest for an entire month. Crew made it, without ben sheets contributing anything or Jeff Suppan helping out</p>
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		<title>By: js20011041</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[js20011041]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 03:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a reason Duquette was out of baseball for a decade. Now, that was a bit of hyperbole, but he really isn&#039;t one of the stronger GMs in the game.  For every strong move he made, there was a bad one.  Anyone remember the Jose Offerman signing?  Or how about burning bridges with Roger Clemens and then watching him dominate baseball for another decade?   Or failing to build any kind of a legitimate rotation around Pedro?  His obsession with mediocre Korean pitchers?  

This isn&#039;t a team that is legitimately built for success. For him to be seriously considering trading for Greinke, shows a lack of judgement. One pitcher is not going to help this team.  You could give them Verlander and they aren&#039;t making the playoffs.  The Orioles are already starting to fade.  What they should do is ride out the next month, possibly making a small deal or two, and see where they are by  the deadline.  My bet is that they&#039;ll have fallen back far enough to sell some pieces. Maybe see if they can get something for Hammel, Thome, or some of their bullpen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a reason Duquette was out of baseball for a decade. Now, that was a bit of hyperbole, but he really isn&#8217;t one of the stronger GMs in the game.  For every strong move he made, there was a bad one.  Anyone remember the Jose Offerman signing?  Or how about burning bridges with Roger Clemens and then watching him dominate baseball for another decade?   Or failing to build any kind of a legitimate rotation around Pedro?  His obsession with mediocre Korean pitchers?  </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a team that is legitimately built for success. For him to be seriously considering trading for Greinke, shows a lack of judgement. One pitcher is not going to help this team.  You could give them Verlander and they aren&#8217;t making the playoffs.  The Orioles are already starting to fade.  What they should do is ride out the next month, possibly making a small deal or two, and see where they are by  the deadline.  My bet is that they&#8217;ll have fallen back far enough to sell some pieces. Maybe see if they can get something for Hammel, Thome, or some of their bullpen.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ MC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DJ MC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 01:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Brewers will have an All-Star shortstop one day. It just won&#039;t be Manny Machado. Unless you have some trade in mind involving Braun. Then the Orioles will listen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Brewers will have an All-Star shortstop one day. It just won&#8217;t be Manny Machado. Unless you have some trade in mind involving Braun. Then the Orioles will listen.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ MC</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/06/orioles-going-hard-after-brewers-ace-zack-greinke/comment-page-1/#comment-325598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DJ MC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 01:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes it is. It is the same Orioles team that is in second place and has a wild-card spot despite that differential (which mostly comes from the minus-22 put up between the 27th and 30th of June--we&#039;re still early enough to see major fluctuations based on small samples).

The Orioles already added a bat. Right now, they need a better option at third base and help in the rotation. Greinke would fix one of those issues.

The real question is do the Orioles have enough to make the Brewers happy while also not overspending on a rent-a-player? I don&#039;t think they do, which is why someone like Dempster is more likely. However, if they think that they can sign Greinke long-term, it makes giving up that talent much more palatable, and likely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is. It is the same Orioles team that is in second place and has a wild-card spot despite that differential (which mostly comes from the minus-22 put up between the 27th and 30th of June&#8211;we&#8217;re still early enough to see major fluctuations based on small samples).</p>
<p>The Orioles already added a bat. Right now, they need a better option at third base and help in the rotation. Greinke would fix one of those issues.</p>
<p>The real question is do the Orioles have enough to make the Brewers happy while also not overspending on a rent-a-player? I don&#8217;t think they do, which is why someone like Dempster is more likely. However, if they think that they can sign Greinke long-term, it makes giving up that talent much more palatable, and likely.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ MC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DJ MC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 01:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am very curious to hear your reasoning for this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very curious to hear your reasoning for this.</p>
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		<title>By: js20011041</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[js20011041]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 01:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remeber who is pulling the trigger here.  This is Dan Duquette.  Orioles fans will be lucky if he doesn&#039;t offer to trade both Bundy and Machado and pick up all of the remaining money due Greinke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remeber who is pulling the trigger here.  This is Dan Duquette.  Orioles fans will be lucky if he doesn&#8217;t offer to trade both Bundy and Machado and pick up all of the remaining money due Greinke.</p>
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		<title>By: brewcitybummer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brewcitybummer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 00:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s depressing on many levels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s depressing on many levels.</p>
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		<title>By: psuravens19</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[psuravens19]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 22:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Os are NOT going to trade Bundy or Machado so let&#039;s not worry about that.  Something to think about is Kranitz was the Os pitching coach when Matusz was actually doing well, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if his name is in the trade talks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Os are NOT going to trade Bundy or Machado so let&#8217;s not worry about that.  Something to think about is Kranitz was the Os pitching coach when Matusz was actually doing well, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if his name is in the trade talks.</p>
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		<title>By: kwf1224</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kwf1224]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 22:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please keep Greinke, Brewers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please keep Greinke, Brewers.</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the more reason for Baltimore to trade the farm for a short term rental. Long term pain for short term gain. Hurry hard Baltimore! Hurry Hard!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the more reason for Baltimore to trade the farm for a short term rental. Long term pain for short term gain. Hurry hard Baltimore! Hurry Hard!</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In your lifetime?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your lifetime?</p>
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		<title>By: brewcitybummer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brewcitybummer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All you people stop trying to kill my Machado delusions.  Reality be damned.  The Brewers will have an all-star shortstop one day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you people stop trying to kill my Machado delusions.  Reality be damned.  The Brewers will have an all-star shortstop one day.</p>
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		<title>By: geoknows</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[geoknows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep.  And the same ones that are sinking fast now.  They are behaving like the Indians did last year, foolishly trading for Ubaldo Jimenez when they didn&#039;t stand a snowball&#039;s chance in hell of making the playoffs.  The Orioles don&#039;t either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  And the same ones that are sinking fast now.  They are behaving like the Indians did last year, foolishly trading for Ubaldo Jimenez when they didn&#8217;t stand a snowball&#8217;s chance in hell of making the playoffs.  The Orioles don&#8217;t either.</p>
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		<title>By: nategearhart</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nategearhart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;d be crazy to trade off their top prospects for a rental when they&#039;re so close to actually competing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;d be crazy to trade off their top prospects for a rental when they&#8217;re so close to actually competing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait, is this the same Orioles with a -28 run differential and a super-lopsided (and unsustainable) one-run game win/loss total?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, is this the same Orioles with a -28 run differential and a super-lopsided (and unsustainable) one-run game win/loss total?</p>
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