Comments on: Jered Weaver makes first-half history with Sandy Koufax http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/jered-weaver-has-something-in-common-with-sandy-koufax/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Tue, 21 May 2013 13:39:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: papichulo55 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/jered-weaver-has-something-in-common-with-sandy-koufax/comment-page-1/#comment-326626 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:03:06 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=178481#comment-326626 I agree, Weaver is a dominant pitcher, IN THIS ERA!

IMHO, there is no abiguity regarding the intent of the author to claim that Weaver is “in the exlusive company” of Koufax. Sorry, he is not!

]]> By: doovyhan http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/jered-weaver-has-something-in-common-with-sandy-koufax/comment-page-1/#comment-326579 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 16:04:33 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=178481#comment-326579 I really dont think the article implies that Weaver and Koufax deserve the same amount of honor or recognition. The article simply points out that Weaver had a great first half back to back seasons, with double digit wins and sub 2.00era. To me, that sounds like a pretty good first half and it is a feat achieved infrequently. The article brings up Koufax because he was the only other one who did the same in the last half century, not because in any way Weaver and Koufax are the pitcher of the same caliber.

Though direct comparison is futile, considering the difference of circumstances the two pitchers played, but i have to concede that going 10-1 with 1.97 while having missed a month is quite a feat. Good job Jered.

]]> By: papichulo55 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/jered-weaver-has-something-in-common-with-sandy-koufax/comment-page-1/#comment-326571 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:45:53 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=178481#comment-326571 OK, I’ll make an attempt to be fair. The 1963-64 Dodgers were no slouches. Koufax had a pretty good team behind him. Maury Wills, Tommy Davis, Willie Davis, Frank Howard, Johnny Roseboro, Ron Perranoski and Don Drysdale. And the benefit of the best ‘pitchers park’ in MLB.

I still dont think that Weaver could have done what Koufax did. Drysdale didnt, and he, IMHO, was a better pitcher than Weaver.

]]> By: papichulo55 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/jered-weaver-has-something-in-common-with-sandy-koufax/comment-page-1/#comment-326546 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:10:40 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=178481#comment-326546 Being compared to Sandy Koufax is a joke. A prime example of why statistics cannot show the whole picture. While the stats are comparable, they do not factor in the quality of the opposing teams. I saw baseball in 1963-1964. Walked to Connie Mack in Philly and sat in the Bleachers for fifty cents! When the Giants came to town, I saw Mays, McCovey, Cepeda, Alou brothers, Marichal, Gaylord Perry, Jack Sanford. The Cards had Brock, Bill White, Gibson, McCarver, Key Boyer. We had Jim Bunning, Richie Allen, Johnny Callison. The Reds had Frank Robinson, Vada Pinson, Pete Rose, Perez, Jim Maloney. The Braves had Joe Torre, Eddie Mathews, Aaron, Felipe Alou, Rico Carty, Warren Spahn. The Cubs had Banks, Santo, Billy Williams, Lew Burdette, Bobby Shantz. The Pirates had Clemente, Stargell, Mazeroski, Bob Veale, Wilbur Wood. The Houston .45s, clearly a bad team by any standards, had Jimmy Wynn, Rusty Staub, Nellie Fox. Ok, I wont talk about the Mets, lol!

My point is that Koufax faced good teams that were stocked with stars. Teams that could beat him on any night. And he faced them on a pre-division schedule. He did not feast on weak teams in division play.

Read those names AGAIN. Now look at who Weaver faced. Draw your own conclusions!

]]> By: stex52 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/jered-weaver-has-something-in-common-with-sandy-koufax/comment-page-1/#comment-326102 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 18:53:37 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=178481#comment-326102 No kidding. In the ’60′s I remember that the Colt 45′s/Astros would have trouble drawing crowds. Then Koufax would come in and they would sell out. Everyone knew they were seeing a Hall of Famer. From 1962-1966 I think he was as good as anyone has ever been.

]]> By: jimeejohnson http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/jered-weaver-has-something-in-common-with-sandy-koufax/comment-page-1/#comment-326023 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 15:02:03 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=178481#comment-326023 Being compared to the great Sandy Koufax is an honor.

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