Comments on: Carl Crawford is going to need Tommy John surgery eventually

By: daisycutter1

daisycutter1 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:11:54 +0000

So the Red Sox get “Most Improved”.

By: annaalamode

annaalamode — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:37:15 +0000

It seems they clearly did not. It makes me curious about the Boston organization in non-chicken and beer ways. How do you sign a guy for so much money whose body is 2 months away from falling apart? Wouldn’t there have been some signs on a thorough physical?

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:55:35 +0000

While the money isn’t similar, at least they are “playing” for the Sox. Didn’t they ship Renteria out after one year into a 4 year deal?

By: oldpaddy

oldpaddy — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:08:41 +0000

Which signing is worse, Crawford or lackey?
These have to be the worst two signings in Sox history. Pretty impressive given how close these signings were to each other.

By: Jonny 5

Jonny 5 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 17:02:27 +0000

“The problem is you never know when a player’s production is going to fall off a cliff.”

I say that from here on out, a good sign is when an agent gives away free I-Pads to possible suitors.

By: jarathen

jarathen — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:11:34 +0000

I didn’t write the article, I was just referring to what they said. I think the comparative history of the clubs factors in, though. One team went from no championships in almost 90 years to two in one decade. One wins them at the same pace the world holds the Olympics.

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:04:14 +0000

How so? They won 2 WS, went to 2 more ALCS’s and probably have the most wins in the decade (without looking it up).

Which decade are we talking about, ’00-’09 or ’01-’10? If it’s the latter, the only advantage they have over the Yanks is the WS victories. If it’s former, they don’t even have that.

’00-’09
Yanks – 965-651, 59.7 win%
Sox – 920-699, 56.8 win%

’01-’10
Yanks – 973-644, 60.2 win%
Sox – 924-695, 57.1 win%

From ’00 to ’09 or ’01 to ’10, the “team of the decade” missed the playoffs four times while the Yanks did it once. The Yanks worst season in ’00 they went 87-74, which is better than three Sox seasons. It’s really not close.

By: ras1tafari

ras1tafari — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:54:19 +0000

How so? They won 2 WS, went to 2 more ALCS’s and probably have the most wins in the decade (without looking it up).

By: ras1tafari

ras1tafari — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:52:50 +0000

Unfortunately, that’s how we have to look at – they threw 142 million out the window. I don’t think they will ever get any significant contributions from Crawford over these 7 years.

Once a guy has basically taken 2 seasons off, it’s all over – he will never fully return, especially a guy in his 30s. He’ll be too fragile and soft from not playing. Crawford is DONE – forget about him. He’ll be hitting .235 for the sea dogs in 2014.

By: drewsylvania

drewsylvania — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:46:37 +0000

The real question is, did they do it right? Or maybe they broke him during the physical. Anything is possible with this bleeping medical management.

By: joecool16280

joecool16280 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:42:33 +0000

Agreed.

By: echech88

echech88 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:35:49 +0000

Well…only 5 more years and about $100M to go. Yikes.

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:27:40 +0000

basically, the team of the decade

How so?

By: uyf1950

uyf1950 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:14:43 +0000

What an utter and complete disaster his signing has been for the Red Sox. Not much else you can say about it.

By: drewsylvania

drewsylvania — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:11:00 +0000

True, but they did know that much of Crawford’s value was tied into good LF defense, which is not needed at Fenway. They also knew that Crawford wouldn’t play anywhere but LF.

Basically, they could have had a better offensive player in LF for a cheaper price.

By: jarathen

jarathen — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:55:04 +0000

If a curse involves winning two World Series in four years of baseball and being, basically, the team of the decade, yeah, I’ll take that curse.

By: joecool16280

joecool16280 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:49:09 +0000

I agree for the most part but when a players success is is mainly from speed it doesn’t take a genius to know that those abilities deteriorate north of age 30. It’s not like he was going to turn into a 30 HR 100+ RBI guy.

By: kkolchak

kkolchak — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:31:46 +0000

The problem is you never know when a player’s production is going to fall off a cliff. Some guys are done by 30 while others somehow play at a high level past 40. Baseball’s guaranteed contracts also guarantee that this kind of thing will happen.

By: stairwayto7

stairwayto7 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:17:06 +0000

The Redsox curse lives on!

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:05:18 +0000

Damnit meant to add that if they fall farther behind in a month or so, then he should consider having the surgery to get a fresh, healthy start to next season.

By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged

churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:04:35 +0000

For everyone saying he should just have the surgery* as the season is over, they are only 2.5 games out of the WC. It’s not like Philly that’s 14 games out of the division and 10 back of a WC spot.

By: stex52

stex52 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:04:33 +0000

Boston did a physical before they signed him, right?

By: dirtyharry1971

dirtyharry1971 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:57:20 +0000

i think it would be best if he waited until next march to get that elbow taken care of, makes sense to me

By: jarathen

jarathen — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:56:02 +0000

Between Lackey and Crawford, those were some TERRIBLE deals. Still wish the Angels had landed Beltre, and Vernon Wells was an absolute moron move, but glad they didn’t get Crawford like everyone thought they would.

Get the surgery, Carl. Season’s over.

By: darthicarus

darthicarus — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:51:57 +0000

It’s because he’s black! /SomeDudeInNewHampshire

By: pisano

pisano — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:49:43 +0000

Other than the 142 million they threw out the window, he’s not that big a loss. He hit .255,and fumbled around in the outfield. I do wish him well as far as his health goes because he seems to want to earn the money he was paid, but it’s not his fault that he’s not able to play.

By: Jason @ IIATMS

Jason @ IIATMS — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:48:29 +0000

Dang it, the HTML code didn’t work. Meh.

By: Jason @ IIATMS

Jason @ IIATMS — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:47:09 +0000

And I suppose that means base runners are close to salivating at the thought of running on Crawford’s Damon’s questionable arm.

Fixed, just to make me chuckle, at least

By: joecool16280

joecool16280 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:43:19 +0000

His signing could go down with the Mike Hampton and Zito deals. And it’s not their faults either, it’s the management who made those critical errors of judgement.

By: deathmonkey41

deathmonkey41 — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:36:34 +0000

He should probably just get it down now and come back for next season.