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Yankees tell Reggie Jackson to go away

Jul 9, 2012, 3:30 PM EST

Reggie Jackson

Reggie Jackson made headlines last week for saying that Kirby Puckett, Gary Carter, Jim Rice, Bert Blyleven, Don Sutton, and Phil Niekro shouldn’t be in the Hall of Fame, and also for saying that Alex Rodriguez‘s numbers should be questioned due to performance enhancing drugs.

Jackson later apologized and Rodriguez seemingly brushed it off by saying: “With friends like that, who needs enemies.”

However, according to Buster Olney of ESPN.com the Yankees aren’t so quick to forgive Mr. October’s comments and he’s been “told to stay away from team events indefinitely.”

Olney notes that Jackson is a paid “special advisor” to the Yankees and often travels with the team, but was not in Boston over the weekend.

  1. sictransitchris - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    Reggie overstayed his welcome long ago. I hope this ‘indefinitely’ turns into forever.

    • hep3 - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:42 PM

      Jackson is a classic example of the “older he gets, the better he was.” Good riddance.

    • florida727 - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:11 PM

      It was only a matter of time before he said something stupid enough to warrant this. I agree with #hep3, the longer he’s been out of the game, the better he’s gotten. Want proof? Just ask HIM. He’d be glad to tell you.

      • bigharold - Jul 9, 2012 at 8:05 PM

        Only a matter of time…??

        This is the guy that started his Yankee association 35 years ago with “.. I’m the straw that stirs the drink..” This latest eruption of his over developed ego is nothing new.

        You gotta go a long way to make A-Rod look sympathetic.

    • eigglesnosuperbowls - Jul 9, 2012 at 9:40 PM

      Billy Martin was right all along !

      • pisano - Jul 9, 2012 at 10:42 PM

        God bless Billy and Thurman, neither had any use for Reggie.

      • eigglesnosuperbowls - Jul 17, 2012 at 6:03 PM

        Iam a Phillies fan and been through a lot of losing that era of Yankees ball was awesome, on the field and off the field,, the best !

  2. cowboyscanada - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    If Jackson is stupid enough to bash the team that pays his way now, then he shouldnt be around the team. I hate the Yankees but I have to side with the organization on this one.

  3. bradtoughy - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    To be honest, I agree with him. The HOF has seen its membership diluted in recent years with the additions of players like Jim Rice, Puckett and Blyleven. Puckett’s similar players are Don Mattingly, Cecil Cooper and Magglio Ordonez, none of which are HOFers. Jim Rice had a slightly better case, but looking at his numbers you’d just think he was a very good player, but certainly not a HOF caliber guy.

    The baseball HOF is not the exclusive club of baseball’s legendary greats that it once was. The HOF should be reserved for the Babe Ruth’s, Ted Williams and WillieMays’ of the game. If it takes 10+ years and internet campaigns to get a player inducted into the HOF, then he is clearly not a Hall of Famer.

    • sictransitchris - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM

      The HOF will continue to be a joke until Marvin Miller is inducted.

      • skids003 - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:08 PM

        That is WHEN it will become a joke, if he’s voted in.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:17 PM

        So Tom Yawkey, who took 12 years to integrate the Red Sox, belongs in the HoF but Marvin Miller doesn’t?

      • paperlions - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM

        No, neither Miller nor Yawker should be in.

        The HOF is not reduced because of guys like Rice getting in…the membership is diluted with guys put in by their buddies on the veterans committee and by far too many owners/commissioners being in it.

      • deathmonkey41 - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:39 PM

        The HOF will continue to be a joke until Andy Stankiewicz is inducted!

      • sictransitchris - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:56 PM

        How does Marvin Miller NOT belong in the Hall? He’s one of the most important men in baseball history.

      • 18thstreet - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:19 PM

        As long as we’re bashing Tom Yawkey:

        http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201111/another-era-and-another-sport-sex-abuse-scandal-still-inflicting-pain-today

        It’s a far, far greater outrage that Tom Yawkey is in the Hall of Fame than that Jim Rice is.

      • washstnative - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:01 PM

        One Name comes to mind:

        Mario Mendoza

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:52 PM

      Jim Rice, Puckett and Blyleven.

      How does Blyleven not belong? Want to read an interesting statistic? If you took Jack Morris’s career, and added Mariano Rivera’s career on top of it, know who you’d get, Bert Blyleven. Apologies to Bill@TPA since it the link is broken, but here’s an old HBT story on it:

      http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/23/jack-morris-mariano-rivera-bert-blyleven/

      • Kevin Gillman - Jul 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM

        Bert Blyleven should have been voted in years ago. He has earned his place in the Hall.

    • 18thstreet - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:54 PM

      I don’t think you’re being exclusive enough. Ted Williams was a lousy fielder. Babe Ruth struck out way too often. And Willie Mays was banned from baseball for a year for lending his name to a casino. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Mays#Post-playing_days)

      Obviously, no one is worthy of going to the Hall of Fame without buying a ticket. If you can’t make a 100 percent air-tight case, kick ‘em out!

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:05 PM

        Sounds like the Willie Mays Hall of Fame. So exclusive that no one is in it!

        http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2011/01/willie-mays-hall-of-fame.html

      • 18thstreet - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:08 PM

        Yeah, I ABSOLUTELY should have credited Joe. That piece was brilliant, and I basically plagiarized it.

      • sabatimus - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:13 PM

        I was going to say how about Ty Cobb, but if the Hall banned non-rule-breaking a-holes from the game, the Hall would probably be half full.

      • polnika - Jul 10, 2012 at 12:11 AM

        18thstreet……… Lets see you don’t say anything concerning Hank Aaron…yet Babe Ruth Struck out 1330 Aaron 1386 times…..Aaron adv only 36 Hr per 162 games a year where as Babe Ruth adv 46 HR per 162 games a years…..he was the 1st to hit 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 hr in a season…..he had NOBODY to show him how…and he was a pitcher the 1st 5 years,,,,and it has been said….if he remain a pitcher his whole career..he would have made the HOF as a pitcher……

    • e5again - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:57 PM

      I don’t disagree with the sentiment of your comment, but you are off on the players you are comparing Puckett to. If you look at overall numbers they might be kinda close, but not really. Those guys all played more years than Puckett did as well. Puckett also won two World Series titles, was the 2nd fastest player ever to 2,000 hits and went to 10 straight All Star games.

      • sabatimus - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:16 PM

        All Star status should not be factored into a consideration for the Hall. At ALL. It’s a favoritism festival that has little to do with performance on the field. Just one example: Brennan Boesch batted over .340 with 17 HR in his rookie season. And didn’t make the All Star game. Pure BS.

      • sabatimus - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:18 PM

        And, for that matter, neither should Gold Gloves, unless you consider on an individual basis. Jeter has won 5 GGs, and they are a total joke because he’s always had one of the worst ranges I’ve ever seen at SS.

      • voteforno6 - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:10 PM

        Puckett was also a first-time inductee. It didn’t take years of campaigning to get him in, like it has for several players.

    • Paul White - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:58 PM

      “The baseball HOF is not the exclusive club of baseball’s legendary greats that it once was. The HOF should be reserved for the Babe Ruth’s, Ted Williams and Willie Mays’ of the game.”

      Bad news for you, by the time Ted Williams and Willie Mays were elected, the Hall wasn’t reserved for players of their level either. In fact, it almost wasn’t reserve for that level when Ruth was elected. Buck Ewing’s WAR total was 45.6 (Jim Rice’s was 44.3 for comparison), and he was elected in 1939. In other words, it’s been “diluted” almost from the first year of its existence.

    • Joe - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:16 PM

      “Puckett’s similar players are Don Mattingly, Cecil Cooper and Magglio Ordonez, none of which are HOFers.”

      None of whom were Gold Glove caliber center fielders, either.

      • 18thstreet - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:11 PM

        Also, just ignore post-season games. They don’t count.

    • sabatimus - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:27 PM

      I’m all in favor of a more stringent HoF. But if Jim Rice can get in, why the HELL isn’t Dwight Evans in?

      • paperlions - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:34 PM

        Honest answer: because people are more impressed by players that are great at one thing than by players that are good at everything but not elite at anything….even though being good at everything is in and of itself a elite skill.

      • Jack Marshall - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM

        Because it’s not (yet) a Hall of Stats, but a Hall of Fame. Dewey never topped an offensive category for a whole season, never won a triple crown, never hit 35 homers or 40 doubles, never finished high in the MVP voting, never was regarded or referred to, while he played, as the best or one of the best players in baseball. Rice was. Rice was far, far more famous than Dwight nationally. Bill James’s opinion that Dewey was better was regarded as stat-head perversity.

        Why is JFK regarded as a better President than James K. Polk?

      • sabatimus - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:05 PM

        Good call Jack. It isn’t yet a stat HoF…at least for some stats, like OBP and OPS, which are more important than BA. I think the Hall is still stuck in the 70s and 80s. Dewey had an utter cannon arm in right, and put up OBP numbers even to the end of his career (.393 in 101 games for Baltimore). He was also 1 point away on OPS+, and hit 1 more HR than Rice…though admittedly in a lot more seasons. But that ought to be a point too: Dewey kept a level of consistency just about through his entire career–in fact, his numbers got BETTER as his career went on.

        But Jim Rice had a Jim Rice HoF lobby. Screw him.

      • sabatimus - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:08 PM

        Hey paperlions: if what you say is true, how come people are going gaga over Mike Trout and Bryce Harper, both of whom are 5-tool players?

      • pauleee - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:46 PM

        I’m sorry. Did I missed all the lobbying for Trout and Harper for the HOF? Let’s get these two through their rookie seasons before we start that crap, alright?

      • offseasonblues - Jul 9, 2012 at 7:25 PM

        Good question. I love them both, and whether they’re in or out makes no difference to me.

        Jack Marshall’s answer surprised me though. It made sense applied to Rice and Evans, but I’ve always thought it was a Hall of Stats rather than a Hall of Fame; the proof being that Roger Maris isn’t in it.

    • thefalcon123 - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:57 PM

      Yeah, the hall has really been diluted since the days when only elite playes like Jesse Haines, Chick Hafey, Sunny Jim Bottomley and Freddie Lindstrom were inducted…

    • Michael Prater - Jul 10, 2012 at 12:08 AM

      Diluted? Hmmm, let’s see – Bert Blyleven is one of the more steady winners during his careers, he makes multiple All Star teams, and wins World Series rings nearly a decade apart, in 1979 with the Pirates (yes, Pittsburgh has had winning teams, kiddos!!) and 1987 with the Twins (Ooooo, those blinding Homerr Hakies in the MetroDome). If a spitballer like Gaylord Perry can be a HOF member, Bert EASILY should be, and deserves such. A lot of very good players…very good.. haven’t and will not be in the Hall. Does that downgrade their contributions? No. One comes to mind, 1B Steve Garvey (Dodgers, Padres), who holds the NL record for consecutive games played, a multiple All Star who was the game’s MVP in ’74 and ’78, and consistently led the Dodgers to the postseason, and the Padres to the 1984 NLCS and World Series.
      As for the Twins’ Puckett, no question he belongs. His stats and All Star selections and post season performances in 1987 and 1991 lend credence for such.
      I’ve never been a Reggie Jackson fan, BUT I agree with his comments questioning A-rod’s deserving HOF consideration. Consider this – Rafael Palmiero collected more than 3000 hits. Does he belong? No, due to PEDs, the same reason Alex’s candidacy is, and SHOULD be questioned.
      Finally, isn’t it time to get off the “gambling” controversy about Pete Rose, acknowledge his acheivements in the game, grant HOF membership, and also make sure it is pointed out why he was banned. If you can have a racist like Ty Cobb and multiple boozers in the Hall, then the question of Rose’s character, with his character flaw being compulsive gambling, shouldn’t keep the all time Hits King out.

  4. SmackSaw - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    Reggie has never been able to keep his mouth shut He’s the self proclaimed ‘straw that stirs the drink’. It’s why ‘The Boss’ loved him.

    • 18thstreet - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:12 PM

      I think Big Stein loved Reggie because they both hated Billy Martin.

      Classic Hate Triangle.

  5. vinthesin - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    I didn’t realize that you couldn’t have an opinion…this is all because the Yankees want to celebrate
    A-Rod breaking the All-Time Homerun record so they can cash in on it.

    FYI—If you catch that ball, hold onto it and don’t give it back unless they give you a king’s ransom. Steiner sports will give you 6 figures for it. Don’t be a sucker like the guy who caught Jeter’s 3000 hit. They guilted that guy into giving the ball back and then exactly 6 minutes after the hit, Steiner sports ran an ad on the YES network selling all types of Derek Jeter 3000 hit memorabilia. It was LAUGHABLE

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 9, 2012 at 3:53 PM

      Who says you can’t have an opinion? However if you make absurd comments and criticize a current player, that team doesn’t have to keep you around anymore.

    • Joe - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:13 PM

      Reggie’s job is basically public relations. If your public relations guy says that your biggest investment is tainted, he’s not very good at public relations.

    • sabatimus - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:28 PM

      How is 3000 hit memorabilia laughable, even 6 minutes later? That’s called good marketing.

      • gammagammahey - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:43 PM

        He was suggesting that it was laughable for the Yankees to ask the guy who caught the 3,000 ball to give it up for free when they were cashing in hardcore on DJ3K-mania. That said, I don’t know how much they pressured him in that regard. I seem to remember him being pretty stalwart about making that decision himself pretty early on.

  6. sabatimus - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM

    The Yank’s reaction to this is proof that the truth hurts.

    • nixonotis - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:49 PM

      It’s proof you don’t talk shit about the players in the organization which signs your paycheck. Whether or not Reggie is right about A-Rod being “tainted” or any number of things, you keep them to yourself when you’re being paid.

      • sabatimus - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:57 PM

        That is also true. It seems Reggie couldn’t stop himself from Being Reggie.

    • cjbdelaney - Jul 9, 2012 at 7:28 PM

      Absolutely agree with you. The PR guy told the truth so shoot him! Arod did PEDs – fact.

  7. crali - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    I wonder what would have happened if George were alive. Reggie was George’s guy and his “job” is to work with guys that have a problem playing on the big stage. A-Rod jokingly referred to him as his PR guy but he was supposed to be there for “emotional support” (what a laugh) and to “try” to teach them how shine under the big lights.
    I like this move – and I don’t like a lot of Girardi’s moves (sitting A-Rod so much and not sitting Jeter nearly enough) or those of the front office.
    This makes me smile

  8. electstat - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:50 PM

    Tom House admited to using steroids during his career (1971-1978) and even stated they were rampant when he was in the minors in the 60’s. These “old school” players just need to be happy they weren’t being tested back then.

    • 18thstreet - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:13 PM

      They all used whatever they could get their hands on. Read Jane Leavy’s Mantle bio, and tell me that Mickey Mantle wouldn’t have used steroids THE FIRST CHANCE he had.

  9. dfh3456 - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    I mainly agree with Reggie. I think Carter is a worthy HOFer when you factor in his excellent defense, Puckett is borderline IMO, the others he mentioned on the list, are not more than Hall Of Very Good, IMO. As for Arod, Reggie is dead on, and I think Arod will have a very hard time not getting at least 25% of the voters to vote against his induction each year. Once you are found to be tainted, the old time voters, are not very forgiving. For example, IMO, Bonds and Clemens have zero chance to ever get 75% of the vote needed, in the 15 yrs they will be on the ballet at most.

    • Jack Marshall - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:09 PM

      Did any of Lirby’s detractors actually see Puckett play? He was unique and special. While he was playing, there was general consensus that he was a HOF’er. That X-factor really is a part of the formula, though the pure stat crowd won’t acknowledge anything that can’t be spit out of a computer. Drysdale, Puckett, Gossage, Reggie, Louie Tiant and others had it (along with many of the Great Greats, like Williams, Mays, Dizzy, and Joe D), and if you don’t factor it in, the HOF will be full of grey stat collectors who nobody remembers or cared about while they were playing.

      • 18thstreet - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:15 PM

        False.

      • voteforno6 - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:14 PM

        I saw Puckett play. He was the best baseball player that I have ever seen. In fact, he’s the reason why I became a baseball fan. He definitely had the “it” factor (or X-factor, as you call it). He could do it all. It’s too bad that he wasn’t able to have a full career.

    • polnika - Jul 10, 2012 at 12:23 AM

      I am not sure that some player today that have taken the juice…won’t get in…
      the feeling some ALREADY in were on the juice…..was it fair to out one or 2 of the players on that LIST…yet other remain hid…..time may change minds….what would you say…if or when the WHOLE list is shown..and some on the list are in the HOF……..then what…..it was NOT fair to out some and not others……

  10. donhenrichsen - Jul 9, 2012 at 4:59 PM

    Did the Yankees all of a sudden realize that Reggie is an opinionated and arrogant individual ? That is like punishing Alex Rodriguez for being unlikable. Maybe they could trade him back to the A’s where he won more pennants and looked a whole lot better in the green and gold of his younger playing days.

    • cjbdelaney - Jul 9, 2012 at 7:32 PM

      He also danced better in an A’s uniform. I once saw him do a great number in the dugout during a rain delay! Great comment,!

  11. joewilliesshnoz - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    Billy Martin was right, the guy is an asshole ,

    • ptfu - Jul 9, 2012 at 9:24 PM

      The guy is right, Billy Martin was an asshole (may he rest in peace).
      :-)

  12. stairwayto7 - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    He will be back next year for Old-timers game! Like anyone cares!

  13. toosano - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    When Pete Rose is in the Hall of Fame is when it will become legit.

  14. kcredneck - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    I once rode with this j- ass from KCI airport in kansas City to a friends farm while the Yanks were in town,he was gonna buy a horse.Problem 1his head would barely fit in the Lincoln.Problem 2, we could not pull egotistical fat head out of the car. We ended up getting the horse in the car an had to call him a convertible, obviously it didnt happen exactly this way but he,s definitely his biggest fan, and just spending some time with him a real ASSHOLE! !!!!!

    • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:10 PM

      I’m sorry, I could barely follow this story. How exactly did you ride with him, and why was he…buying a horse from your friend?

  15. vincentbojackson - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    Reggie Jackson has a lot in common with Jim Brown. Both guys were greats of their generation but instead of celebrating current players they feel the need to tear them down.

    Sad really.

  16. basedrum777 - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    Everything Reggie said about the hall is 100% right. Every person he listed should not be in the HOF. The issue is he never should have said it.

  17. Baseball Beer Burritos In That Order - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    Gary Carter not a hall of famer? OR Bert Blyleven?
    That’s way more offensive than anything Reggie has to say about A-Rod.

  18. numbersdude - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Reggie’s ego and need for attention finally caught up with him…What an idiot…he was grandfathered in as a “Special Advisor” out of respect for the late great George Steinbrenner being paid approx. 500k a year. However, now he knows that this is no longer George’s team!….Even a dog knows not to bite the hand that feeds them!…

    • pisano - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM

      numbers…. you said it all, he finally stuck his foot in his big mouth one too many times. I had no idea the Yankees were paying him that kind of money, what a fool.

  19. numbersdude - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    oh btw there are different level of hall of famers…Reggie couldn’t carry Willie May’s dirty laundry, yet he is in the same hall as Mays…

  20. numbersdude - Jul 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    oh btw there are different level of hall of famers…Reggie couldn’t carry Willie May’s dirty laundry, yet he is in the same hall as Mays…

  21. doctorlanebravo - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    people like to say the game is great because it doesn’t need to change much over time to be great, which is why it is a game of Stats, but the I think the game is so different even today than it was just 20 years ago, It’s better to compare players to their contemporaries than to the past or future. Who were the best 5 or 10 players of a decade ore era. I’d have a hall of fame at about 200 players total.

    just an opinion

  22. brianbosworthisstonecold - Jul 9, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    He’s right about A-Roid!

  23. alan3008 - Jul 9, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    Jackson is an arrogant asshole.

  24. blazertop - Jul 9, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    Since we are on the topic. Any non-Houston people think Biggio or Bagwell should be in the HoF?

  25. dafc0n - Jul 9, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    Anyone who has a candy bar named after them, that does’nt stay in production for at least a full year, does’nt belong in the hall of fame. Anyone seen a reggie bar lately?

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