Comments on: Padres use steal of home in ninth to overtake Dodgers

By: micker716

micker716 — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:17:46 +0000

Not possible. Apparently stealing home didn’t exist until Bryce Harper did it this season.

By: koufaxmitzvah

koufaxmitzvah — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:18:08 +0000

* Meant that Cabrera’s been starting in MLB since 2009.

Pro ball includes Rookie League since they are getting paid.

By: koufaxmitzvah

koufaxmitzvah — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:16:38 +0000

I’m sure Evereth Cabrera, 3 year major league ballplayer, takes his cues from a 19-year-old rookies all the time.

Of course, West Coast baseball is proven to be directly influenced by East Coast baseball. Because, see, things happen there first.

I may not always agree with you, Paper, but I’m really surprised by this line of thinking.

Some food for thought: Cabrera has been in pro ball since 2006, Kenley since 2009. Cabrera’s been starting in the pros since 2006. Kenley just started his job as the closer this year. Ergo, Evereth schooled Kenley, and AJ wasn’t ready for it.

But, yeah, go Bryce! Harper’s Da Man!!

By: icanspeel

icanspeel — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:58:09 +0000

It is amazing base running because not everyone has the speed to make things happen. It’s also very risky so even the Padres coaches didn’t really want him doing it, but there was a slight miscommunication. It’s not that most players don’t want to do stuff like that, most aren’t allowed too.

By: jolt12

jolt12 — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:40:52 +0000

Got me. I’ll own it. I’m embarrassed.
But the reality is, I’m finally coming around (after 50 years of watching baseball) to admitting that I am bored with most tv announcers and their quirks, habits, cliches and need to describe the obvious. It’s hard to turn the sound off—I want the sounds of the game—but there are so few voices that don’t get me talking back to the screen anymore. But I definitely honor the pioneers. I really stepped in it here. To abuse Captain McCluskey, “I guess I’m getting too old for my job. Too grouchy.”

By: ch0psuey

ch0psuey — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:10:15 +0000

I would like to think Dave Roberts ( The pads 1b coach ) had a small role in this. I believe Venable swiped home last year also on a similiar play. *edit* not a steal but sort of the same concept:

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11140521&c_id=mlb

By: andrewproughcfe

andrewproughcfe — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:06:52 +0000

That’s not “Amazing base running” – that’s what these guys should all be doing. Make something happen – don’t stand around and wait for it to happen.

The average major league player now makes roughly $20K per 9 innings, whether they sit on the bench or play the whole game. That’s about as much for one game as Willie Mays made in his first 3 seasons combined. For that kind of money, these guys should be trying to make something happen, playing aggressively. Instead, most MLB players are going to look a lot like Jansen–wandering around waiting for something to happen–even in the 9th inning.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:55 +0000

Yeah, because every time you do something for the first time, it was completely your idea and not an imitation of something you saw someone else do. /sarcasm

Most people rarely have new ideas or experiment with something new, they simply imitate and adapt the things they see other people do…it is how people learn, and it is why written communication was so important to the creation of civilizations…complex ideas could be preserved and communicated through generations without loss of information.

The day after Harper stole 3rd, the odds that Cabrera’s thinking was completely uninfluenced by a that play while he was on 3rd is nearly 0%.

By: aceshigh11

aceshigh11 — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:19:05 +0000

Thanks for the clarification, Stephen Hawking.

By: koufaxmitzvah

koufaxmitzvah — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:09:01 +0000

Gag.

Cabrera deserves all the credit. Kenley and AJ were napping. Bryce was someplace talking to himself in a mirror.

By: hoopmatch

hoopmatch — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:23:54 +0000

Actually, I think Vin hasn’t hit 100 yet.

By: bigleagues

bigleagues — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:22:18 +0000

Well, we know one topic that will addressed this morning/afternoon in virtually every clubhouse in baseball. Two days in a row, Major League Baseball players completely asleep on one of the fundamental fundamentals of the game . . . always know what the runner(s) is/are doing when the ball is live. There really are no excuses. None.

By: hoopmatch

hoopmatch — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:21:55 +0000

Interesting observation, paperlions. You may be right. And that would make Harper good for the game in ways we hadn’t thought of.

By: bigleagues

bigleagues — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:14:15 +0000

paperlions, you stole my Mr. Obvious statement right out from under me!

Just remember we don’t want to alienate and embarrass the newer baseball fans.

By: bigleagues

bigleagues — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:11:53 +0000

Reason #837 why I shouldn’t shut down MLB.tv before games are finished for the day.

That is a play that I thought only to be possible in backyard baseball. PHE-NOM-MEN-OL!

The worst part of that play for the Home Plate Ump is that even the Dodger’s 167-year-old Vin Scully knew that Cabrera was safe.

And then for Venable to score from 2nd is just so . . . I mean, what is the word? Unacceptable seems so inadequate.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:10:49 +0000

Yeah, um….if you are the umpire, knowing where the ball is….that’s kind of key. Not knowing where it is = poor umpiring.

By: congocash

congocash — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:06:41 +0000

We had the game in the bag all along….

By: micker716

micker716 — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:05:57 +0000

Dick Enberg and Vin Scully? Yeah, just a couple of kids trying to break into the business.

By: buffalomafia

buffalomafia — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:20:38 +0000

Now thats baseball

By: jolt12

jolt12 — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:01:52 +0000

I’m totally unfamiliar with the broadcasters (I’m east coast). Are they well known to be this bad? It doesn’t take but a half second to recognize that obviously the ump totally did not see the ball—there’s no mystery. He simply did not see it. They were going on and on as if they couldn’t understand how he called the dude out. Yo guys–would you like me to explain it to you? He didn’t see the ball. Get it? (Of course it was a hugely embarrassing moment for the ump but it happens. He’ll live.)

By: paperlions

paperlions — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:09:35 +0000

I’m going with this being a Bryce Harper effect. If Harper doesn’t steal 3rd Friday when the Marlins are napping, does it even occur to Cabrera to try it here?

By: bigdawg8

bigdawg8 — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:14:46 +0000

Whats up with all the typos? Is the pitcher’s name Jensen? Jansen? Ansen? Reading this was about as confusing as watching the sequence.

By: curtown

curtown — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:09:00 +0000

I love that SD literally stole the win! die hard Padres fan and proud of it

By: kiwannabee

kiwannabee — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 06:20:53 +0000

This was the highlight of the Padres’ entire SEASON.

For a true Padres fan, anything that makes the Dodgers look bad is a moment of glory.

By: O.Handwasher

O.Handwasher — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:54:56 +0000

Ellis should’ve just walked off the field DeWayne Wise style. The ump’s first clue that he didn’t have the ball was when he chased after it.

By: 4d3fect

4d3fect — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:27:09 +0000

I remember having to drill into our Little League pitchers “never turn your back on the runner”

Embarrassing and costly gaffe for the bums. Especially since the Giants just won in extras.

By: randygnyc

randygnyc — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:17:07 +0000

Lol at myself. I’ve been watching nearly 12 hours of continuos baseball today, starting with the Yankee game at noon. By the time the 8th inning finished, I was burnt out and turned it off and missed. I’ll have too look at mlbtv for the highlights. Tough loss.

By: Diana

Diana — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:11:47 +0000

Oh sorry Matt – didn’t see your note ’til after I posted the link.

By: Diana

Diana — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:10:30 +0000

Well, here it is … http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2012_07_14_sdnmlb_lanmlb_1&highlight_content_id=23042581&c_id=sd

By: Matthew Pouliot

Matthew Pouliot — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:09:37 +0000

I was watching the Dodgers feed live, but if you watch the Padres feed, which I linked to here, they’re crowdshooting when the play starts and the guy in the crowd starts to point it out as the camera cuts away. Thought that was pretty neat.