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	<title>Comments on: The D&#8217;Backs have told Justin Upton they might trade him</title>
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		<title>By: purnellmeagrejr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purnellmeagrejr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[alang - WHy are you showing such favoritism to By Justin rather than your other son?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alang &#8211; WHy are you showing such favoritism to By Justin rather than your other son?</p>
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		<title>By: purnellmeagrejr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purnellmeagrejr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think you understand the expression &quot;cautionary tale&quot;. Perhaps &quot;red flag&quot; was what you were looking for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you understand the expression &#8220;cautionary tale&#8221;. Perhaps &#8220;red flag&#8221; was what you were looking for?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Holzman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[plus leake*

sorry, leake is a big part of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plus leake*</p>
<p>sorry, leake is a big part of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Holzman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some combination of Corcino, Stubbs, Hoover, Soto, and Gregorious?

and if something like that happened, the farm would be totally effed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some combination of Corcino, Stubbs, Hoover, Soto, and Gregorious?</p>
<p>and if something like that happened, the farm would be totally effed.</p>
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		<title>By: azvikefan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azvikefan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll take that trade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take that trade.</p>
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		<title>By: azvikefan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azvikefan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No thanks. I&#039;m a Twins fan too and Liriano is NOT GOOD anymore. He&#039;s afraid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No thanks. I&#8217;m a Twins fan too and Liriano is NOT GOOD anymore. He&#8217;s afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: brewcitybummer</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/15/the-dbacks-have-told-justin-upton-they-might-trade-him/comment-page-1/#comment-330498</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brewcitybummer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arizona already has two pitching prospects better than Harvey in Skaggs and Bradley, not to mention Bauer.  And none of those borderline major leaguers you named move the needle on Upton. So that&#039;s not the big offer you were looking for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arizona already has two pitching prospects better than Harvey in Skaggs and Bradley, not to mention Bauer.  And none of those borderline major leaguers you named move the needle on Upton. So that&#8217;s not the big offer you were looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: mathieug79</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mathieug79]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justin Upton to the BlueJays for Hecheverria, Yan Gomes, Jake Marisnick, Deck McGuire]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin Upton to the BlueJays for Hecheverria, Yan Gomes, Jake Marisnick, Deck McGuire</p>
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		<title>By: Alex K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure paper isn&#039;t the one that is wrong about this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure paper isn&#8217;t the one that is wrong about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/15/the-dbacks-have-told-justin-upton-they-might-trade-him/comment-page-1/#comment-330412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not enough thumbs for this.  Excellent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not enough thumbs for this.  Excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What Upton considers busting his butt may be nowhere near the work ethic people expect, especially Arizona fans whose opinion Upton doesn’t care about.&quot;

You left out the part where you said, &quot;I have no idea whatsoever if he works hard. I&#039;m just going to assume he doesn&#039;t because he&#039;s having a bad year and because his brother never got to be as good as we thought he would, so they must both be lazy.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What Upton considers busting his butt may be nowhere near the work ethic people expect, especially Arizona fans whose opinion Upton doesn’t care about.&#8221;</p>
<p>You left out the part where you said, &#8220;I have no idea whatsoever if he works hard. I&#8217;m just going to assume he doesn&#8217;t because he&#8217;s having a bad year and because his brother never got to be as good as we thought he would, so they must both be lazy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An injured guy, with a history of injuries who at age 22 has 6 professional plate appearances, a utility guy, and a 27 year old pitcher who isn&#039;t even good enough for your major league rotation, 

for a 24 year old with 3 full years left on an affordable contract and 16 fWAR in the majors?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An injured guy, with a history of injuries who at age 22 has 6 professional plate appearances, a utility guy, and a 27 year old pitcher who isn&#8217;t even good enough for your major league rotation, </p>
<p>for a 24 year old with 3 full years left on an affordable contract and 16 fWAR in the majors?</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What exactly do you think is fulfulled potential for a 24 year old?

I know secret player comparisons are cliche, but here it is:

Player A:
Age 22: .342/.373/.521   10 HR, 10 SB in 311 PA
23: .290/.340/.459    18 HR, 35 SB in 657 PA
24: .297/.352/.490    26 HR, 34 SB in 667 PA
25: .249/.310/.450    28 HR, 19 SB, in 668 PA
Trades rumored. Potential Unfilled. Player rumored to be lazy.

Player B:
Age 20: .250/.353/.463   15 HR, 1 SB in 417 PA
21: .300/.366/.532    26 HR, 20 SB in 588 PA
22: .273/.356/.442    17 HR, 18 SB in 571 PA
23: .289/.369/.529    31 HR, 21 SB in 674 PA
24: .268/.351/.393    7 HR, 10 SB in 339 PA
Trades rumored. Potential unfulfilled. Player rumored to be lazy.

Player A is Matt Kemp and hit .324/.399/.586 with 39 HR and 40 SB the next season. Player B is Upton.

I&#039;m not saying that Justin Upton will be Matt Kemp. All I intend to say is that guys under 25 just have down years from time to time. It does not mean they are lazy, or done growing.

The dude is 24 and he is being written off as unfulfilled potential after ONE HALF of a season, the year after his best season yet? Ludicrous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What exactly do you think is fulfulled potential for a 24 year old?</p>
<p>I know secret player comparisons are cliche, but here it is:</p>
<p>Player A:<br />
Age 22: .342/.373/.521   10 HR, 10 SB in 311 PA<br />
23: .290/.340/.459    18 HR, 35 SB in 657 PA<br />
24: .297/.352/.490    26 HR, 34 SB in 667 PA<br />
25: .249/.310/.450    28 HR, 19 SB, in 668 PA<br />
Trades rumored. Potential Unfilled. Player rumored to be lazy.</p>
<p>Player B:<br />
Age 20: .250/.353/.463   15 HR, 1 SB in 417 PA<br />
21: .300/.366/.532    26 HR, 20 SB in 588 PA<br />
22: .273/.356/.442    17 HR, 18 SB in 571 PA<br />
23: .289/.369/.529    31 HR, 21 SB in 674 PA<br />
24: .268/.351/.393    7 HR, 10 SB in 339 PA<br />
Trades rumored. Potential unfulfilled. Player rumored to be lazy.</p>
<p>Player A is Matt Kemp and hit .324/.399/.586 with 39 HR and 40 SB the next season. Player B is Upton.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that Justin Upton will be Matt Kemp. All I intend to say is that guys under 25 just have down years from time to time. It does not mean they are lazy, or done growing.</p>
<p>The dude is 24 and he is being written off as unfulfilled potential after ONE HALF of a season, the year after his best season yet? Ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyb1976</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnnyb1976]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t consider Frazier, or Cozart scraps the reds are a first place team with 2 rookies on their left side. Cozart has a big offensive upside and is very solid defensively and if the reds didn&#039;t have Frazier who knows where they would be without his bat. The Reds also have enough very good minor league pitching to make any deal they want. I think paperlions has a little bit of Red envy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t consider Frazier, or Cozart scraps the reds are a first place team with 2 rookies on their left side. Cozart has a big offensive upside and is very solid defensively and if the reds didn&#8217;t have Frazier who knows where they would be without his bat. The Reds also have enough very good minor league pitching to make any deal they want. I think paperlions has a little bit of Red envy.</p>
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		<title>By: razorbyrd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[razorbyrd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bring him to the Nats, send Anthony Rendon, Steve Lombardozzi &amp; John Lannan to &#039;Zona...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bring him to the Nats, send Anthony Rendon, Steve Lombardozzi &amp; John Lannan to &#8216;Zona&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: buffalo65</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buffalo65]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason a trade is possible is the jays have interest and the horses to get it done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason a trade is possible is the jays have interest and the horses to get it done.</p>
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		<title>By: gloccamorra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gloccamorra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[alang may have given the real answer:

&quot;Or maybe Kevin Towers is just stupid. He tried to trade him in 2010 and then Upton went out and had an MVP-caliber season.&quot;

Stupid like a fox?  Upton says he busts his butt, but he should be showing consistency by now with his talent and experience. What Upton considers busting his butt may be nowhere near the work ethic people expect, especially Arizona fans whose opinion Upton doesn&#039;t care about. 

Upton may be &quot;cheap&quot; now, but $14 million is a lot to pay for a guy with a world of talent who never reaches his potential. The history of the game is littered with guys like that, and both Uptons look like they&#039;re in that category.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alang may have given the real answer:</p>
<p>&#8220;Or maybe Kevin Towers is just stupid. He tried to trade him in 2010 and then Upton went out and had an MVP-caliber season.&#8221;</p>
<p>Stupid like a fox?  Upton says he busts his butt, but he should be showing consistency by now with his talent and experience. What Upton considers busting his butt may be nowhere near the work ethic people expect, especially Arizona fans whose opinion Upton doesn&#8217;t care about. </p>
<p>Upton may be &#8220;cheap&#8221; now, but $14 million is a lot to pay for a guy with a world of talent who never reaches his potential. The history of the game is littered with guys like that, and both Uptons look like they&#8217;re in that category.</p>
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		<title>By: mj1818</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mj1818]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to think Taillon and Cole are untouchable,  as much as it would pain me to see Marte go I think it would be a safer move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to think Taillon and Cole are untouchable,  as much as it would pain me to see Marte go I think it would be a safer move.</p>
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		<title>By: Sign Ahead</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sign Ahead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think alang3131982  has a very good point. 

The team&#039;s owner is angry with how they&#039;re playing this year and he has a history of lashing out when he gets angry. I, and a lot of other Diamondbacks fans, are worried that he may trade Upton just to punish the team for performing poorly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think alang3131982  has a very good point. </p>
<p>The team&#8217;s owner is angry with how they&#8217;re playing this year and he has a history of lashing out when he gets angry. I, and a lot of other Diamondbacks fans, are worried that he may trade Upton just to punish the team for performing poorly.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Why would Towers be willing to trade a player like Upton? Why was Colorado willing to trade Ubaldo? Didn’t seem right either did it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s far more complex than that though.  Or I could counter with saying, why did the Rangers want to trade Arod?  IIRC Jiminez was unhappy with the Rockies because they were giving away long term deals, and Jiminez wasn&#039;t getting one.  A bunch of back and forth bickering, and they traded him.  That he hasn&#039;t worked out* isn&#039;t a notch in favor of the Rockies, considering the crap they are putting out now.

*Unless this was a reason for trading him; however, no one referenced it at the time so to do so now would be a bit disingenuous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why would Towers be willing to trade a player like Upton? Why was Colorado willing to trade Ubaldo? Didn’t seem right either did it?</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s far more complex than that though.  Or I could counter with saying, why did the Rangers want to trade Arod?  IIRC Jiminez was unhappy with the Rockies because they were giving away long term deals, and Jiminez wasn&#8217;t getting one.  A bunch of back and forth bickering, and they traded him.  That he hasn&#8217;t worked out* isn&#8217;t a notch in favor of the Rockies, considering the crap they are putting out now.</p>
<p>*Unless this was a reason for trading him; however, no one referenced it at the time so to do so now would be a bit disingenuous.</p>
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		<title>By: theawesomersfranchise</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theawesomersfranchise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pirates will send Marte and Heredia and maybe Hanson to the DBacks for Upton, but you won&#039;t see Cole or Taillon as part of the deal imo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pirates will send Marte and Heredia and maybe Hanson to the DBacks for Upton, but you won&#8217;t see Cole or Taillon as part of the deal imo</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Out of curiosity, do you know what Matt Holliday&#039;s H/R wRC+ split was before he left Coors Field?  Is he playing down to his road wRC+ for you guys?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity, do you know what Matt Holliday&#8217;s H/R wRC+ split was before he left Coors Field?  Is he playing down to his road wRC+ for you guys?</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I know....just cracks me up how fans think their roster scraps might get a highly regarded young player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I know&#8230;.just cracks me up how fans think their roster scraps might get a highly regarded young player.</p>
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		<title>By: novanation33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[novanation33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mets need to make a big offer ASAP.

Matt Harvey plus two players of the D&#039;Backs choice: Duda, Nieuwenhuis, Valdespin, Flores.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mets need to make a big offer ASAP.</p>
<p>Matt Harvey plus two players of the D&#8217;Backs choice: Duda, Nieuwenhuis, Valdespin, Flores.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His career road wRC+ (which is park and league adjusted) is 94.  Yes, I realize that all players have some H/R split, but this difference is FAR beyond the expected split.  He also gets to play a lot of games in Coors, and AT&amp;T is a neutral park, not a pitchers park at all.  His road parks aren&#039;t that bad.

Fine, he&#039;s hit like an slighly above average SS on the road.  Still a H/R split of 44 pts in wRC+ is huge and can&#039;t be explained by anything but an inabilitty of the adjusted metrics to capture the full benefit of hitting in AZ.  Most elite hitters seem to have about a 10-15 pt difference, but still hit well on the road.  He is a completely different hitter away from AZ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His career road wRC+ (which is park and league adjusted) is 94.  Yes, I realize that all players have some H/R split, but this difference is FAR beyond the expected split.  He also gets to play a lot of games in Coors, and AT&amp;T is a neutral park, not a pitchers park at all.  His road parks aren&#8217;t that bad.</p>
<p>Fine, he&#8217;s hit like an slighly above average SS on the road.  Still a H/R split of 44 pts in wRC+ is huge and can&#8217;t be explained by anything but an inabilitty of the adjusted metrics to capture the full benefit of hitting in AZ.  Most elite hitters seem to have about a 10-15 pt difference, but still hit well on the road.  He is a completely different hitter away from AZ.</p>
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		<title>By: alang3131982</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alang3131982]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it better not.....good lord if that&#039;s all they get...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it better not&#8230;..good lord if that&#8217;s all they get&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frazier, Cozart, and some pitching probably wouldn&#039;t be enough to get him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frazier, Cozart, and some pitching probably wouldn&#8217;t be enough to get him.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He has a career .162 ISO on the road, so that&#039;s hardly a powerless shortstop.  You can&#039;t simply use H/R splits and assume a player&#039;s road splits are his true talent.  For all players, there&#039;s been an observed advantage to playing at home independent of park factors, and Arizona/Colorado players have the additional crimp of playing a significant percentage of their road games in AT&amp;T, Dodger, and Petco - almost a third of Upton&#039;s career road PA are in those three stadiums.

Also, I&#039;m not sure I buy the &quot;lack of advancement&quot; thing with Upton.  He played through an injury in 2010.  When accounting for that, he&#039;s shown pretty steady improvement for four years before a bad three and a half months.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has a career .162 ISO on the road, so that&#8217;s hardly a powerless shortstop.  You can&#8217;t simply use H/R splits and assume a player&#8217;s road splits are his true talent.  For all players, there&#8217;s been an observed advantage to playing at home independent of park factors, and Arizona/Colorado players have the additional crimp of playing a significant percentage of their road games in AT&amp;T, Dodger, and Petco &#8211; almost a third of Upton&#8217;s career road PA are in those three stadiums.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m not sure I buy the &#8220;lack of advancement&#8221; thing with Upton.  He played through an injury in 2010.  When accounting for that, he&#8217;s shown pretty steady improvement for four years before a bad three and a half months.</p>
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		<title>By: whodeytn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whodeytn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get him in a Reds uniform!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get him in a Reds uniform!!!</p>
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		<title>By: tashkalucy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tashkalucy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;They’d like to get a third baseman, a shortstop and/or starting pitching in return.&quot;

Lets see.....

The Indians 3rd baseman is 35 years-old and going downhill/

They have a real nice SS in Astrubal Cabrara, but they don&#039;t even have a back-up for him to play SS.

And they are looking for another starting pitcher because they need one so badly.

Mark Shapiro and Chris Antonetti have been running the Indians front office for years. They may well be the most mediocre front office in all of baseball. They want to acquire good players, but they have nothing in their farm system due to terrible drafting and poor development. They have 2 sensational relief pitchers, 2 starters that blow hot and cold, and 4 everyday players that are decent, none of which qualifies as a star.

Congrats to Manager Manny Acta and his staff for somehow keeping the team in the race with the awful roster he was given to work with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They’d like to get a third baseman, a shortstop and/or starting pitching in return.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lets see&#8230;..</p>
<p>The Indians 3rd baseman is 35 years-old and going downhill/</p>
<p>They have a real nice SS in Astrubal Cabrara, but they don&#8217;t even have a back-up for him to play SS.</p>
<p>And they are looking for another starting pitcher because they need one so badly.</p>
<p>Mark Shapiro and Chris Antonetti have been running the Indians front office for years. They may well be the most mediocre front office in all of baseball. They want to acquire good players, but they have nothing in their farm system due to terrible drafting and poor development. They have 2 sensational relief pitchers, 2 starters that blow hot and cold, and 4 everyday players that are decent, none of which qualifies as a star.</p>
<p>Congrats to Manager Manny Acta and his staff for somehow keeping the team in the race with the awful roster he was given to work with.</p>
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