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Settling the Score: Wednesday’s results

Jul 19, 2012, 6:15 AM EDT


Yes, I know And That Happened is supposed to be here, but I decided to have a bit of a life last night and I went and saw this fellow to the right down in Cincinnati. That’s Hayes Carll, and he’s fairly awesome.  But since I didn’t get back to my bunker until about 2AM this morning, a usual, full-length And That Happened simply wasn’t going to happen. I hope you’ll understand.

Yankees 6,Blue Jays 0
Brewers 4, Cardinals 3
Dodgers 5, Phillies, 3
Athletics 4, Rangers 3
Tigers 7, Angels 2
Pirates 9, Rockies 6
Red Sox 10, White Sox 1
Padres 8, Astros 4
Nationals 4, Mets 3
Indians 10, Rays 6
Royals 8, Mariners 7
Giants 9, Braves 4 — way to go, Braves bullpen!
Orioles 2, Twins 1
Diamondbacks 7, Reds 1
Cubs 5, Marlins 1

  1. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 19, 2012 at 6:24 AM

    When Ellsbury came back I said he would need to get A-Gon to hit some homeruns and somebody told me Adrian would be fine. I wished it but I didn’t dare say it.

    Since then he’s hit two oppo-HRs in three games. I guess Adrian is fine. Good call, sir, good call. .

  2. redguy12588 - Jul 19, 2012 at 6:25 AM


  3. mudhead123 - Jul 19, 2012 at 6:46 AM

    Redsox ramble

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:15 AM

      I don’t know who the guitarist is and I’m only interested in my own hangover. This is where And That Happened is usually supposed to be so I figured it was the best place for my ramblings.

  4. Old Gator - Jul 19, 2012 at 6:47 AM

    Well, I guess Hayes Carll beats watching reruns of Porkin’ Recreation. But then, anything short of going to the Cincinnati Zoo to see the meerkats would have.

  5. Old Gator - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:25 AM

    The Feesh got washed out after collapsing in the seventh inning and going 0-8 with RISP. Meteorological euthanasia, that.

    • kiwicricket - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:37 AM

      Sounds very similar to the Darwinians going ‘troppo’ during the dry season.

      • Old Gator - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:39 AM

        Me, I go Allegro non Troppo. Maurizio Nichetti lives!

    • cur68 - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:41 AM

      Just replace “Feesh” with “Beaver Men” and you have that game’s re-cap, vs the Universe, too. And, just to make losing Bautista extra special, the Beav lost Lawrie, too. Season’s pretty much a wash at this point.

      • rambodiaz - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:07 AM

        At this point, brotha, who’s even left standing for The Beavs?

        Please send Snider to Pittsburgh.

      • APBA Guy - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:28 AM

        I saw the highlight of that attempted catch by Lawrie. I praise his enthusiasm, question his judgment. Does this mean the return of E5 to his natural habitat?

      • deathmonkey41 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:31 PM

        Is Lawrie gone for the season?

    • lewp - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM

      So tired of hearing about the FEEEEESH. I wonder when old gator called them the Marlins??

      • Old Gator - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:12 PM

        I only refer to “marlins” when I’m out on the Gulf Stream, kicked back in my orchid print bathing suit with the rod harness clipped to my chair, a cold Clausthaler in one hand and my line trailing out behind my boat of choice, a 63-foot Sea Ray christened the Neoteny. Yes, I practice fillet and release. All for the love of smoked billfish and cream cheese on a toasted multigrain bagel with sliced tomato, cucumber, romaine and onion. And a hot cup of Galapagos Arabica blend with real cream.

        I mean, I already look like Hemingway. Why not feesh like him?

      • cogitobaseballergosum - Jul 19, 2012 at 5:12 PM

        I always picture you on The Busted Flush.

      • natstowngreg - Jul 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM

        Gator imitating Hemingway. A disturbing image indeed.

  6. kiwicricket - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:31 AM

    Had Hayes Carll known he was an impediment to ATH, I am sure he would of stopped the show early.
    Don’t try pull a fast one over us, Mr C.

  7. cjasfenton - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:41 AM

    I’m not gonna lie, I’d take Hayes and KMAG.

  8. cjasfenton - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:43 AM

    Hayes vs. box scores? KMAG YOYO wins every time.

  9. icanspeel - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:47 AM

    Talk about a game of highs and lows for the Braves. Golden opportunity to win it walk off fashion in the 9th and fail, 1-1 going into the 10th, Chipper made a pretty weird throwing error they give up 2 in the top of the 10th and with 2 outs nobody on in the bottom of the 10th were able to rally and tie it on Mcann’s HR only to give up a 6 spot in the 11th. Then in the bottom of the 11th Chipper hits a heroic HR.. well it might have been if they didn’t give up 6 the prior inning.

  10. uyf1950 - Jul 19, 2012 at 7:48 AM

    The Yankees just keep on rolling. Have to say Kuroda has exceeded my expectations. The Yankees could conceivably have 4 starters with over 15 wins each by the end of the season. And they now have a double digit lead over the 2nd place Orioles in the division. Not bad, not bad at all.

    • proudlycanadian - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:03 AM

      Boo! Hiss! Nothing personal Yankee fans. I will still give a thumbs up to the Evil Empire.

    • APBA Guy - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:29 AM

      UYF-any predictions for the series against the Golden A’s? I’m on record as expecting a split.

      • uyf1950 - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:35 PM

        I’ll be a bit more optimistic for the Yankees I say 3 of the 4. The once they lose could very well be tonight. They Yankees generally don’t play well the 1st game of a West Coast trip. But the Yankees have surprised me a lot this year with how well they have played.

      • uyf1950 - Jul 19, 2012 at 1:31 PM

        correction: The “one” they could lose…..

      • APBA Guy - Jul 19, 2012 at 3:15 PM

        I think almost every team plays worse in it’s first road trip game. Yanks swept the A’s last time they were here, as part of the A’s 9 game losing streak. One thing for sure, there will be good crowds at the Mausoleum.

        Should be just under 70 degrees at game time, with a fresh westerly wind. Your guys should be very comfortable after the NYC weather yesterday.

  11. Jonny 5 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM

    I pictured last night, as Papelbon blew the lead in the 10th that Ruben Amaro Jr. was beating the hell out of a filing cabinet in his office.

    • kiwicricket - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:13 AM

      Why would Ninjas have filing cabinets?

    • aceshigh11 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:45 AM

      Don’t say some of us Sox fans didn’t warn you Phightins about Papelbon.

      He’s still got very good stuff, but he’s not the lights-out closer he once was. He’s had a troubling predilection for blowing games way more often than he should over the last few years.

      He throws way too many fastballs and doesn’t change it up enough.

      • Francisco (FC) - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM

        He may be throwing too many fastballs and not enough changeups. He’ll likely decline in the next few years. But I for one think this statement isn’t really backed up by facts:

        He’s had a troubling predilection for blowing games way more often than he should over the last few years.

        Really? Let’s see if the facts bear this out:

        Year Sv BSv SV%
        2006 41 6 85%
        2007 40 3 93%
        2008 46 5 89%
        2009 41 3 93%
        2010 45 8 82%
        2011 34 3 91%
        2012 24 3 88%

        If anything he’s been fairly consistent. There’s no trend there to suggest he’s blowing games more often given the opportunities he’s had. I think last September and 2010 have colored perception of Paps just a bit.

        As for lights out…. well that depends on your definition, based solely on the fairly useless stat of saves he seems to be the same guy in the last 5 years or so. What metric are we using to define “Lights out”?

      • aceshigh11 - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM

        You make some really good points…it’s not something that can be backed up by stats, but by watching him.

        There was just a change in how quickly he was able to close games out during his “peak” (2007-2009) and from 2010-2011.

        It’s really just something you can’t get a sense of unless you watched a lot of Sox games during those years.

        Don’t get me wrong…the guy’s still really good but he might not have a long shelf life, like most closers.

  12. number42is1 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:12 AM

    Good morning Craig,

    I Just wanted to inform you that in 10 hours from now i will be sitting in a Movie theater with a bunch of other…errrr…Nerds to begin watching The Dark Knight trilogy. It starts at 6pm and ends around 3am with the conclusion of The Dark Knight Rises.

    That is all

    • kiwicricket - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:23 AM

      The only time Batman is superior to Superman, is when there is “Pow!” “Bam!” “Zonk!”, etc superimposed on a fight scene, or when he’s cutting some shapes on the dance-floor in his underwear.

      • number42is1 - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:24 AM

        Batman is NEVER superior to Superman… but sadly there has not been a good Superman movie since Superman II

      • kiwicricket - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:35 AM

        I beg to differ, good Sir.

      • kiwicricket - Jul 19, 2012 at 8:38 AM

        Dam it. Didn’t run.

        Youtube ‘Batusi’ and then get back to me regarding the greatness of Batman in his underpants.

      • aceshigh11 - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:05 AM

        Are you serious?

        I have NEVER been into Superman. Not even a little bit. He’s too one-dimensional and squeaky-clean.

        Bruce Wayne/Batman has a darkness and a complexity to his personality that allows for much more interesting story lines.

        His deeply-damaged psyche has given various writers the carte-blanche to explore some very twisted, adult themes.

        Any time someone has tried to present a more complex, mature vision of Superman, it’s fallen flat, at least cinematically. I’m not a die-hard comic reader so I don’t know if there are comic storylines that have been more successful on that front.

      • Francisco (FC) - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:50 AM

        Superman in the comics isn’t all that bad, He wasn’t always so squeaky clean. In the 30’s he was actually quite mean. That changed after 1940 but the Big Blue Boy Scout is great because his righteousness is fodder for creating tensions within the superhero group he operates in.

        He even ordered a Philly Cheese Steak once. If it’s good enough for Kal-El….

      • bravojawja - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM

        Kiwi – Remind me to ask Adam West to reenact this scene when he’s at Dragon*Con this year. Burt Ward, OTOH, had better keep his hands where we can see them.

    • sdelmonte - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:23 AM

      I love both Superman and Batman. The former is damned hard to write, but I want to be like him. To be that upstanding and decent and good, and also be able to fly and so on.

      The latter is a mess, and not someone anyone should want to be. But he’s so utterly compelling so often.

      Neither is Gary Carter or Keith Hernandez, and given the choice between being a superhero and being an ’86 Met, right now I choose the Mets. But only because this is a baseball site.

      • Old Gator - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:38 AM

        I keep having this fantasy where Lois Lane gives Superman the clap and no one can give him a shot of penicillin.

        I spend a lot of time sitting in airport lounges.

      • sdelmonte - Jul 19, 2012 at 10:11 AM

        Don’t be silly. She wouldn’t survive a night of passion with him in the first place. (As per Niven’s “Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex,” the single most illegally reprinted article on the Internet.)

      • Francisco (FC) - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:00 AM

        Yeah… I got through about half-way on that one when I decided I didn’t really need to read anymore.

  13. biffnasty - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    Here’s the difference, batman is just an ordinary dude who has crazy good skills and wants to help the people of Gotham by fighting crime. Superman, on the other hand is an alien, he’s not even human! He has an unfair advantage. However, Batman would still beat superman in coolness, a fight and in believability

    • wlschneider09 - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM

      Are we really having a conversation involving the “believability” of superheros?

      I love this place.

  14. sdelmonte - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    And thus the Mets return to earth. What stings is not that their flaws have caught up with them. It’s that every year, they stumble out of the gate after the break. What’s up with that?

    Meanwhile, I think we can all say the Nats are for real. And I don’t think they have to worry even if they slump a bit, since the rest of the division looks lethargic.

  15. natslady - Jul 19, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    Mr. Consistency, Jordan Zimmermann, throws another six innings shutout despite various adventures in the outfield. The game is knotted at 0-0, so Davey takes JZ out because he wants him to have a “good experience,” and not have to keep throwing up zeroes. Deciding to give him run support–for a change– the Nats score two in the bottom of the sixth.

    The game toddles along at 4-1 so Tyler Clippard wanders in for the 9th. CONTEXT: Last night he gave up a 3-run dinger to Jordany Valdespin, and a 2-0 lead became a 3-2 deficit.

    Accused by the local media of throwing too many change-ups (as opposed to, say, Papelbon, who apparently doesn’t throw enough), Clip sends a heater to David Wright–solo homer #1. After two K’s, solo homer #2 by Jason Bay hardly fazes the crowd. Collins brings in Valdespin. McCatty brings in advice: Strike this turd out. HR,K,K,HR,K.

    OK, then.

    • natstowngreg - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:39 PM

      BTW, for those of you who have only begun to recognize the Washington Nationals’ existence, they have a pretty nice #3 starter. His record is barely over .500 because, for the first 3 months of the season, Zimmermann was supported poorly by his teammates. Unlike Messrs. Strasburg and Gonzales, Jordan doesn’t get many fascistic strikeouts; instead, he democratically entrusts in his defense, which has been doing a good job.

      I recall Rob Dibble ranting about Tyler Clippard not throwing enough fastballs. Seems F.P. Santangelo (whose work I enjoy in general) has picked up that cause. Clippard has had 3 poor efforts in a row–a blown save and 2 near-blown saves. Whether it’s due to pitch selection, or fatigue (from being worked heavily the past 2.5 seasons), or a hidden injuty, something is a bit off right now. According to James Wagner of The Washington Post, Davey thinks it might be fatigue:

      The Giants (who were swept at Nats Park) again help the Nats out, dropping the Braves to 4.5 games behind. (BTW, big series August 13-15, Nats visit San Francisco.) Gio vs. RA, starting as I type. Should be another quality pitching duel.

  16. APBA Guy - Jul 19, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    The Mighty Brandons were on a mission yesterday after losing game 1 (of 2) to the Rangers. There’s a sense that the Rangers aren’t firing on all cylinders right now, what with Josh going backward offensively and Napoli’s OPS at .743, etc. Still, even after their scorching April, they are playing at a .604 clip and remain 5.5 games above the Angels in the West.

    That said they should have eaten Travis Blackley alive yesterday, but they did not. For one thing, the A’s committed no errors, after the 4 miscues Tuesday (only 1 scored as an error). For another Melvin yanked Blackley as soon as he got into trouble in the 5th and went with the A-List bullpen (Balfour, new-guy Evan Scribner, 97 mph Sean Doolittle, and Ryan Cook) who combined for 3.2 IP of 2 hit ball. Contrast this to the Rangers pen and their 3 IP, 3 ER game losing effort. HR’s by Brandon Inge and the game winner by Brandon Hicks, his career first.

    The Yankees come into Oakland today for a 4 game set, the weather looks good with the possibility of enough heat over the weekend for the ball to carry. After the split with Texas the A’s fans are hoping for a split against Texas. Already the Great and Powerful Beane is floating rumors that he might not sell Capt. Colon because the team is in the mix for the last playoff spot. And also probably he’s not getting any compelling offers, either. There is a kernel of hope in Oakland. Will the Yankees crush the life out of these early-budding dreams? Or will the leaden boot of the G & P Beane be the crusher? We’ll see, but there will be a hint of expectation at the Mausoleum tonight at least, for the first time in a long time, the A’s are playing some meaningful games after the All-Star Break.

  17. spudatx - Jul 19, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    A Hayes Carll show is a great way to spend a Wednesday night!

    • Old Gator - Jul 19, 2012 at 2:14 PM

      An Over the Rhine show with Hayes Carll opening and a couple of loaded coneys begging their way out of your alimentary tract is a better way.

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