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Angels to keep struggling Ervin Santana on “out count”

Jul 23, 2012, 1:20 PM EDT

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Ervin Santana‘s brutal season continued Saturday, as he failed to make it out of the second inning against the Rangers while serving up three homers and allowing six runs.

Santana is now 4-10 with a 6.00 ERA and 23 homers allowed in 111 innings and the Angels are 5-14 when he starts compared to 47-30 when anyone else takes the mound.

And yet instead of simply dumping Santana from the rotation manager Mike Scioscia will continue to start him every fifth day while putting him on an “out count.” Rather than limiting his pitches Scioscia has decided to keep Santana in the game for 15 outs–in other words, five innings–at which point he’ll be removed for a reliever.

Alden Gonzalez of writes that the idea is to keep Santana from having to go through a lineup for a fourth time while giving him more leeway to be aggressive. He also notes that Scioscia employed a similar strategy with a struggling Scott Kazmir and … well, he’s now pitching in an independent league at age 28, so suffice it to say the “out count” didn’t work any magic on Kazmir.

It’s also worth noting that Santana has averaged 17.5 outs per start this season and failed to record even six outs in two of his last three starts. Having to go through the lineup for a third and fourth time hasn’t really been the issue.

  1. ultimatecardinalwarrior - Jul 23, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    Sometimes, managers get the silliest ideas.

  2. SmackSaw - Jul 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    I was at the game Saturday. It was like a slow pitch softball game. Ervin pitched more like Carlos Santana.

    • jarathen - Jul 23, 2012 at 4:04 PM

      Like the catcher, or the singer?

  3. jimatkins - Jul 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    Just what is this supposed to accomplish? Santana hasn’t gotten to 15 outs in quite a while. Does this mean we let him throw all the gopherballs he wants until the fifth inning? I don’t get it.

  4. jengibre23 - Jul 23, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    TRADE THAT GORILLA LOOKING BITCH. He is most likely the only reason the angels are not in first place. Hes had 1 no hitter and that’s the only good thing he’s done. He ha done this every season. Pull him out before the A’s catch them and push the angels out of the playoffs.

    • jarathen - Jul 23, 2012 at 4:05 PM

      Which team wants Santana, again? DiPoto would love to know.

      • 1981titan - Jul 23, 2012 at 7:06 PM

        The Yonkers Yahoos of the Yonkers Municipal Slow pitch softball League. They are offering a week of free Yahoo service.

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