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Dale Sveum calls the Dempster deal a “fabrication,” blames the Internet for … something

Jul 23, 2012, 5:20 PM EDT

I get the idea that the Dempster deal was reported somewhat prematurely — though, notably, no one reported that the deal was finalized — but this seems a bit much:

Many different reporters — good reporters — with many different sources were hearing that a deal was basically in place. Even the Braves own home page at MLB.com was reporting the deal.  There is clearly not any Dempster sign-off yet so no, there is no deal with a capital D, but it does not appear to be a “fabrication.”  To say so seems pretty bush league and insults a lot of people who are not sitting here and making this up from whole cloth.

For whatever reason, be it logistics on the Cubs end or Dempster taking his time to consider it, there is no trade yet. But that’s something totally different than saying it’s all made up. And if and when the deal is done on the terms generally reported, I think Sveum owes some reporters an apology.

  1. Ben - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:22 PM

    “The Twitter”?
    Someone needs to have a chat with that man about definite articles.

    • 18thstreet - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:49 PM

      Heaven knows a print newspaper has never issued a correction for printing something that’s false. It’s the twitter’s fault that journalists get facts wrong.

    • jon623 - Jul 23, 2012 at 8:15 PM

      “The kids these days, with their hippin and their hoppin… it’s the rap music! It gives them the brain damage! mmmmm!” -Cosby

  2. mississippimusicman - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    If the deal doesn’t go down, I will blame whoever leaked it for ruining it. Whether because Dempster got angry for it being reported without his okay, or whether Sveum just feels so backed into a corner that he calls it off to save face, we may never know. This is one of the drawbacks of a 24-hour rumor mill, and of reporters and bloggers feeling the need to shout “first” about stuff like this.

    • jamaicanjasta - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:35 PM

      I’d consider it a bullet dodged for the Braves O.o. I do not like the idea of that trade at all.

    • natslady - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:35 PM

      Wait, Sveum can call off deals? I thought he was the field manager? What kind of outfit are they running over there?

  3. canucks18 - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    When is the last time reporters apologized to the players/people they insult on a daily basis???

    • elohelwut - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:37 PM

      do you know how long it took to get all the information so I could form this article? like, two hours! TWO HOURS!

    • cur68 - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:50 PM

      ‘nuck, just for fun, stick the term “reporter apologizes for insult” into a google browser. Know what you get? 4,540,000 results which consists chiefly of people apologizing TO reporters.

      Should all this “Dempster to The Braves” stuff turn out to be so much hot air, I’d love to see some of the people who “broke” this stuff actually apologize if they did in fact go off prematurely. To me, the whole thing seems like an exercise in wish-fulfillment on someone’s part. There are people who believe that if you wag the dog’s tail hard enough…

      • jamaicanjasta - Jul 23, 2012 at 6:03 PM

        Eh, it was a reach anyway. Maybe someone in the Braves front office did that, but I’d doubt it based on their track record.

      • cur68 - Jul 23, 2012 at 6:15 PM

        What bugs me is the nature of the guys involved. A currently very good mid thirties FA for a pretty good young prospect. This one benefits the Cubs way too much. For the long term health of The Bravos, it makes very little sense. Its a win now move and it seems risky to me. IMO this is the sort of thing a fanboy engages in, not a prudent GM who wants long term success. The Braves have a rep for developing talent, not trading it away. They reported this on their website, sure, but whoever did that might well be looking for a job tomorrow.

      • jamaicanjasta - Jul 23, 2012 at 6:19 PM

        It does and I think as Braves (and Cubs) fans look at this, the scale is weighed heavily in the Cubs favor in terms of this trade. I saw some comparisons to the Teixeira trade and I get that sense as well; a panicky trade that squanders talented players for what ends up being a rental.

  4. flavas - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    Get over yourself Craig.

    Sveum owes nobody an apology, particularly the journalists.

  5. blueintown - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    Are you going to apologize for your article from two hours ago laying out the short and long term ramifications of the deal to both the Cubs and the Braves?

    • jamaicanjasta - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:39 PM

      One is based on multiple reports from multiple independent sources. The other is a manager blaming social media for rumors that were actually sourced. Why are we conflating the two?

      • Craig Calcaterra - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:47 PM

        The real difference is that my analysis, if a trade doesn’t go down, is merely irrelevant. If a trade does go down and the reporters were right, Sveum has accused them of the most serious ethical transgression a reporter can be accused of by claiming they fabricated a report.

      • blueintown - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:55 PM

        Reporters reported. Report wasn’t true. Sveum called reports a “fabrication”. Maybe Sveum is making a “fabrication”. Maybe he’s not. Life goes on. No one cares. Baseball continues.

      • jamaicanjasta - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:59 PM

        The sense I get is that the reports were correct and for whatever reason, them leaking out has caused some angst within the Cubs organization.

    • jamaicanjasta - Jul 23, 2012 at 6:00 PM

      And blue, I’d believe that but the Braves’ official website posted it as a done deal, so I’d think they’d be sure of it internally before doing that.

  6. Walk - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    Trying to remember but there was another deal a few years back that was blown because it was reported too soon and cost the braves a player. Ajc reported a deal in place but it fell through, i cant remember the player though.

    • Walk - Jul 23, 2012 at 7:01 PM

      Ken Griffey jr. I believe that is who it was. Ajc ran a story about griffey coming to atlanta and some exception was taken to the report and griffey signed elsewhere.

  7. ningenito78 - Jul 23, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Owes an apology? How’s your sensitive pills this afternoon Craig?

    • Craig Calcaterra - Jul 23, 2012 at 6:06 PM

      Yeah, he accused several reporters of making up a story from whole cloth. Which almost certainly did not happen. If someone accused you of a serious ethical breach in your profession, you’d probably want an apology too.

      Point: there’s a difference between jumping the gun and making something up. Sveum accused the reporters of doing the latter.

  8. pepefreeus - Jul 23, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Dale liked it better when he had to wait for two hours to get his baked potato.

  9. cowartsh - Jul 23, 2012 at 6:49 PM

    Delgado for dempster isnt even remotely close to the texiera trade. Atlanta gave up andrus and feliz who both turned out to be very good. Also gave up salty who didnt fulfill his promise

  10. cowartsh - Jul 23, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    Oh and I totally forgot about harrison. Prettt much worst trade ever

    • jamaicanjasta - Jul 23, 2012 at 7:04 PM

      I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t have been a one for one trade.

  11. psunick - Jul 23, 2012 at 7:31 PM

    Owes the media an apology?

    You cannot be serious. That is the height of arrogance. But, what else should we expect from the Fourth Estate but arrogance.

  12. cubedgouda - Jul 23, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    If the deal is not in place yet, then it IS fabrication. Apology? Are you kidding me? You guys are so concerned with getting a story out 1 second before it happens, but when you’re wrong we barely hear an oops. And noone cares who got it first anyway. Sometimes it’s hard for you guys to get it right when you dont “get it” in the first place. Sveum owes you guys bupkis

  13. qacm - Jul 24, 2012 at 2:49 AM

    Here is a reaction to this controversy from Dale Sveum’s dad.

  14. gmsingh - Jul 24, 2012 at 7:07 AM

    The Dale Sveum shouldn’t worry so much about what’s on the Twitter and the Facebook. I hope the Theo Epstein gives him a good talking to.

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