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Cashman: No Mariano Rivera in 2012

Jul 24, 2012, 2:31 PM EDT

Mariano Rivera AP

Mariano Rivera was proceeding as if he were going to pitch this September. And Rivera’s physical therapist waxed enthusiastic about the idea to the New York Post. But that’s not happening says Brian Cashman, who was interviewed about it on SiriusXM radio today.

And, by the way, Cashman says, that physical therapist should shut up:

Host/Jim Duquette: “Mo, is there a chance he could come back? We saw some reports that he might be able to come back.”

Brian Cashman: “No. I mean, his physical therapist that he’s working with, I thought was unprofessional and went public with things. I mean, medical personnel should be quiet. And it’s not our physical therapist, it’s someone he’s got that we’ve signed off on. But those guys should not be doing interviews and he provided an interview that was, you know, not a fair reflection of where this player’s at. His over-enthusiasm, I thought, provided improper information. He’s not coming back this year and I wish he was, I wish he was, but unfortunately people get excited. They want to get their name out there for whatever reason and so he got a day in the sun, but he’ll be proven wrong in the end unfortunately. So, he got all our fans excited and a lot more media attention for myself to deal with, but he’s not coming back this year. I wish he was.”

Cashman may have a point about the therapist, but still: buzzkill.

Oh well. Guess I’ll go back to one of my favorite new hobbies this year: trolling Yankees fans by asking them, if Mariano Rivera is so great, why are the Yankees still in first place as if he had never left in the first place?

  1. Kevin S. - Jul 24, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    I have to say, if MLB’s most famous Catholic was pitching three months after having ACL surgery, I might have had to re-consider my non-theism. That this was something people were even talking about is absolutely nuts.

  2. syracuse451 - Jul 24, 2012 at 2:37 PM

    Yikes, Cashman is usually pretty even-handed; he sounds like he’s pretty angry at the physical therapist.

  3. number42is1 - Jul 24, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Low blow Craig..Can’t you pick on the Philly fans for a change?

  4. stex52 - Jul 24, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    No fun with Phillies fans. They are pretty much trolling themselves these days. :-)

  5. lazlosother - Jul 24, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    Because the pen is still full of Jetery goodness. And also because George’s boys went for an epic overpay on Soriano last year, and through luck only idiots and savants have it is working out.

    • bigharold - Jul 24, 2012 at 3:21 PM

      The pen is full of Jetery goodness because Girardi knonws how to handle a pen, .. better than the previous Joe running the Yankees.

      As for the Steinbrenner’s foresight in acquiring Soriano, .. overkill perhaps but when you have the resources why not expend them? I’d rather that then they act like some of their small market brethren who are in fact very wealthy but have alligator arms when it comes to their willingness to make their teams more competitive.

      • lazlosother - Jul 24, 2012 at 4:51 PM

        Lighten up Harold we’re having some harmless fun here, and there is more to a good pen than just “handling” it. As for Soriano, yes the signing looks good now. But at the time it didn’t look very good at all, and they did it over the objections of the GM. NY would be in first without Soriano as well, you can’t tell me he’s been 7 wins better than the other options they ahve.

      • bigharold - Jul 24, 2012 at 6:20 PM

        The pen IS better because of the way Girardi is “handling” it. He has a very good way of keeping pitchers from being over worked, and passing the work load around keeping the lesser pitchers sharp. Far better then Torre who burned down one decent reliever after another, .. who wasn’t named Mariano. Hell, he brought Kyle Farnswaorth back from Ed Whitson territory to the point that he was productive enough to be traded. Look at the pitchers in the pen besides Soriano and Robertson, .. pretty much interchangeable parts and farm hands. Their success this year starts with Giardi. People can mock his over managing all they want but the results of the pen is where it’s paying dividends.

        Yes the Soriano signing was over the top, .. at the time even I didn’t get it. But, if you consider that Rivera went down for the season then Robertson ends up on the DL it’s hard to see the Yankees 20 games over .500. Yeah, they might well be in first but they’d likely be in a dog fight with the O’s and Ray’s.

        Just because somebody isn’t agreeing with you you shouldn’t assume that they are giving you a hard time. Everything here is essentially harmless.

      • lazlosother - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

        I didn’t say the pen wasn’t better being handled well, I said there is more to a good pen than just being handled well. Just because somebody isn’t agreeing with you you shouldn’t assume that they are giving you a hard time. I didn’t defend Torre, so I don’t see what your point is there. The success this year starts with the guy who assembled the pen, that would be Cashman (with the exception of Soriano).

        As we are both NY fans, I don’t take our discussion too seriously, but my whole point was that Soriano was over the top. Hindsight is 20-20, and it is easy to say it was a good signing now, but at the time any honest NY fan had to admit that the owners saw s bright shiny object, and had to have it.

      • bigharold - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:45 PM

        “… there is more to a good pen than just being handled well.”

        Perhaps but that’s not in this case here. My point is, and has been, that Girardi’s does a very good job at handling the pen and that is the primary reason for the success of the Yankee pen since he’s become their manager. This year is an excellent example because after Rivera going down, exacerbated by Robertson going to the DL, besides Soriano there are no real big names in their pen. It’s mostly “parts” and farm hands. Yet they prosper.

        “The success this year starts with the guy who assembled the pen, that would be Cashman ”

        Cashman was assembling the pen parts during the Torre years too but Torre never did as well with what he had, .. especially after 2001. How one uses the resources at ones disposal can be far more important than the resources themselves.

        If you don’t agree Girardi’s prowess handling pitching is important, .. let alone the key reason the pen is as good as it is, .. then you are entitled to your opinion but I think you’red missing an important aspect of the Yankee success.

        Also, I didn’t think you were defending Torre nor was I taking a shot at him. I just don’t think that handling pitching was ever his strong suit, .. and I’m far from alone in that opinion.

  6. deathmonkey41 - Jul 24, 2012 at 2:58 PM

    “if Mariano Rivera is so great, why are the Yankees still in first place as if he had never left in the first place?”

    Osmosis.

    • El Bravo - Jul 24, 2012 at 3:01 PM

      this is true…he even gave Soriano the “iano” in his name….

  7. yankees177 - Jul 24, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    Mo is “great” not because of one year but because he was great over the course of 15. Soriano is having a good year like he had in TB in 2010 and thats why the yanks are having a good year, not to mention good sp and good hitting lol. If u really want to know how good Mo is, ive sweat more this year in the 9th than the last 2 combined!

  8. vallewho - Jul 24, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    The correct answer is that the Yankees are not built around a single player. You know, they actually spend the money that they make to put a good team out there. All the criticism about buying championships etc….Well, the money spent on Soriano looks OK at this point.

  9. mybrunoblog - Jul 24, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    I read a story with some quotes from Mo himself saying that he wasn’t sure about even playing in 2013. A this point he can mostly walk without a limp but cannot bend his knees and squat. He’ll be 43 by next season. Could be tough to return from that injury and who knows? He may like sitting around just being a dad and raising his family.
    The story was in the NY Daily news and a few Yankee blogs.

  10. pjmarn6 - Jul 24, 2012 at 4:16 PM

    Cashman has changed the constitution? A man is no longer free to speak his mind??? If the therapist is wrong then he was optimistic. Why should it bother Cashman if the therapist is optimistic. Didn’t the Yankees get Soriano to replace Rivera? 43/44 is old for a baseball player. Injuries take longer to heal. Sounds like Cashman is jealous about the therapist putting in his two cents and taking the limelight off of Cashman. Only Rivera and the Yankees can tell if Rivera can or will come back. Everyone else can freely speak their mind.

    • Kevin S. - Jul 24, 2012 at 4:27 PM

      Oh, hey, it’s pjmarn coming in and thinking that Brian Cashman was using his influence with law enforcement agencies to have criminal sanctions imposed upon the therapist for his comments. At least, one would presume that’s what you’re saying if you think the Constitution has anything to do with this, since that’s all the First Amendment protects ones speech against.

    • anxovies - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:05 PM

      I think Cashman’s point was that you hire a medical professional to treat, not to blow his mouth about the treatment and recovery. There is an obvious worry that if people think that Mo might come back this year there will be a frenzy of speculation about who would be the closer. Football teams don’t like a quarterback controversy and baseball teams don’t need a closer controversy. Nobody wants Soriano looking over his shoulder. And the First Amendment goes both ways. Cashman is equally free to tell this trainer to shut his yap.

  11. drewmunny - Jul 24, 2012 at 4:40 PM

    Probably the same reason that your Braves would be where they are if they’d lost, say, Chipper Jones – mediocre.

    *yes, apples to oranges, going with the long-standing member of the team theory.

  12. schaffershokai - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    He might want to take it easy, recuperate, and give this a try: http://youtu.be/R-5rlcAhkA4

  13. bigjimatch - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    just wait until Sori implodes in the playoffs. this is the same guy who was terrified to pitch last season.

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