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Ryan Dempster is withholding approval of the trade because he got “blindsided”

Jul 24, 2012, 10:30 AM EDT

Dale Sveum may want to say that the Ryan Dempster-to-Atlanta trade was a “fabrication” and an invention of “the Twitters,” and Dempster himself may want to say “THERE IS NO TRADE,” but Jerry Crasnick of ESPN is reporting that (a) the trade was very real; (b) Dempster initially suggested that he would approve of it; but (c) got mad when, before being told it was done by the Cubs, word leaked out to the media:

 

 

Actually, sounds more like something players should learn to deal with. Because this kind of thing is going to happen from time to time, especially when you have two teams, a player, an agent and possibly more people in the loop.

It’s one thing if a player’s first whiff of news that he may be traded comes from the media. But if what Crasnick says is true, and Dempster was approached about going to the Braves initially and suggested it was acceptable, he’s just having a temper tantrum.

  1. ezthinking - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    Maybe clubs should find better employees with ziploc mouths. The Yankees rarely seem to have a leak. Tigers don’t seem to have leaks. With some of these other clubs, it seems word gets out before the GM even knows he made a trade.

    • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM

      It’s not necessarily a team employee that leaked it.

    • mscott4 - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:53 AM

      Wasn’t it first reported by the Braves Official site? It doesn’t sound like a Cubs leak.

    • callidus - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:32 AM

      There’s no way a Theo Epstein led organization would ever encounter problems with leaks or the media in general… oh… wait…

    • stlouis1baseball - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:51 PM

      Yes EZ. Some teams don’t seem to have information leaked like others. The Tigers, the Cardinals, etc… But then again…this isn’t about the Tiger, the Cardinals or the Spankees.

  2. vansloot - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    Nothing I like better than when sports turn into soap operas.

    Oh wait, I HATE that.

  3. Marc - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    I would like to disagree with Jerry’s thought that Twitter is deserving of it’s own “age.”

  4. aisle424 - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    I’d think he’d get over it since the story broke from the Atlanta side. It’s not like the Cubs had any control over what leaked out on their end. He also made some comment the other day about enjoying being the hammer instead of the nail in regards to approving trades, so this could all be posturing.

  5. drkincaid - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    I think in part due to change in Cubs management style. Dempster was used to Hendry who didn’t trade FA’s last year cos they asked not to be traded. Hendry would have kept Dempster informed; good for long term relationships, not always best for rebuilding teams.

  6. harrysatchel - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    So who is he mad at here? The Braves or the Cubs? Because if I am mad at the Cubs for blindsiding me with a trade that has been inevitable for weeks, the last thing I am doing is vetoing a trade.

  7. bravojawja - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    I would like to thank whoever leaked the trade and ticked off Dempster if it means he’s now going to veto the deal. I didn’t like it before, and I’m sure I won’t like it if he shows up already pissy at the organization.

    • Chip Caray's Eyebrows - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:43 AM

      So do you feel the Braves’ rotation does not need an upgrade in order to make a playoff run this year, or do you believe there is a better deal out there somewhere?

      I’m not a fan of dealing a long-term cost-controlled guy like Delgado for what’ll likely end up being two months of an aging Dempster who at any time could cease pitching over his head, but something has to happen. This trade may be about as good as it gets. Word is the Brewers want Teheran, Delgado and an offensive prospect for Greinke, another guy Atlanta may not be able to retain. If forced to choose between those two scenarios, I know the Dempster trade is the one I take every time.

      • mrwillie - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:22 PM

        I’ll chime in and say that, yes, the Braves are in dire need of updating their rotation. But, if the rotation didn’t currently have Hudson, Sheets, and now potentially Dempster things would look different to me. I just don’t know about trading away young pitching when Dempster makes the second stop-gap pitcher and Hudson is no spring chicken either.

        This deal leaves the Bravos in horrible shape next year…that being said it is still much better than the scenario that you said is being floated. If Wren even considers dealing Delgado, Teheran, and others for Greinke I’ll quit my job and go be the GM for free….that’s a ridiculous trade.

        If the Dempster deal goes down, it will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

        In all seriousness though, where did you hear about this Greinke deal? I’d love to know.

      • Chip Caray's Eyebrows - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM

        http://capitolavenueclub.com/?p=7253

      • bravojawja - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:38 PM

        I don’t think Dempster is the answer, certainly not for Delgado. Why get another Ben Sheets? I don’t think the Braves can get an upgrade in the rotation this year without overpaying. If Hanson would get his head out of his ass (as Minor appears to have done) and pitch like he can, that’s an upgrade.

        I’m all for trading prospects for this year’s playoffs, but it should be done wisely. Wren hasn’t shown he can do that, and this Dempster deal just proves it.

      • Chip Caray's Eyebrows - Jul 24, 2012 at 1:06 PM

        I’m not really sure what you mean by “getting another Ben Sheets.” Are you saying Dempster and Sheets are essentially the same guy? I’d be interested to hear a deeper explanation of that comparison, because on the surface it doesn’t make much sense to me. On one hand, you have a guy who has been a pretty good starter over the past few seasons, certainly better than two or three guys currently in the Braves’ rotation, and would be an upgrade even if he wasn’t in the middle of the season of his life. On the other, you have a guy who was good once upon a time, but hasn’t pitched in a couple years and despite a couple good starts hasn’t really proven anything about his current level of usefulness.

        I also don’t think three decent starts from Minor is some sort of conclusive proof he has turned things around. Look at his season … every once in a while, you get two or three good performances. Then you get three or four weeks of suck. You can’t have him and Delgado in the same rotation and expect to reach the postseason, especially if Sheets can’t continue doing what he’s done in his ever-so-brief tenure with the team.

  8. WhenMattStairsIsKing - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    I can see how Ryan would be annoyed maybe, and even feel a bit blindsided. I mean, who knows Ryan Dempster as a drama queen? I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt here because of his solid character reputation, and assume he rightfully feels he deserved to know more sooner, no matter who leaked it.

    That said, he did preliminarily accept a trade to any contender. The Braves are a contender. And Ryan’s been seen talking to then front office recently as well.

    I think too much got out too soon before it could be contained, which happens in this day and age. And I hope Ryan makes the right decision for himself.

  9. illcomm - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    I agree with ziplock. Dempster should stand firm on principal alone. He was being nice to accept a trade, but each party need to stop leaking info.

  10. js20011041 - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    C’mon Dempster. Accept the trade before the Red Sox do something stupid and trade for you.

  11. paperlions - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    This is just weak and petty on Dempster’s part. He knew he was on the block, he had discussions with his GM about it AND knew this deal was a possibility….so why does he care if the media found out about it before he officially approved it? Not waiving his 5/10 rights because it was leaked is childish (if true).

    • kkolchak - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:03 AM

      Spot on. Sounds to me like he looking for an excuse to avoid leaving a terrible team and going to a contender. In other words, he might not be the guy you want on the mound during the pressure of a pennant race.

  12. natslady - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    Maybe it’s not ego or temper. Maybe Atlanta did let the word leak before negotiations were completed, but Dempster held off because he (and/or Atlanta) wanted an extension and that part of the deal hadn’t/hasn’t been finalized. Delgado, IMO, is a lot to give up for a rental, but if there was an extension in the works, and it’s not to long or two expensive, the deal seems more reasonable.

    • natslady - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:02 AM

      EDIT FUNCTION– too long or too expensive.

  13. dluxxx - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    Time for the Twins to sweep in and Trade the Braves Liriano for the same return! That’ll show em!

  14. eshine76 - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    I’m imagining myself in Dempster’s shoes for a moment… I know I’m on the trade block & I know I have 10/5 rights. My agent is involved is informed of the teams that are involved in talks. I know what’s going on. The Braves rumors have been flying for a while… if I don’t want to go to the Braves, I’m calling Theo, Jed, and my agent to tell them not to waste their time, if one of them hasn’t reached out to me already.

    He’s having a little bit of a tantrum and / or posturing for another deal.

  15. papichulo55 - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Temper tantrum? Try “Gimme some money”.

  16. dchillin - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    He’d rather be playing in the Nation’s Capital!

  17. psr179 - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    I’m not sure how he could truly felt “blindsided” considering the Braves have been rumored to have interest in him for over a month. Also, everyone has known that he had a 99.9999% chance of being traded. If reports are right that the Braves were #2 on his wishlist behind the Dodgers, then I really feel as if he’s being a little over dramatic about the whole thing.

    As a Braves fan, I don’t know if I’d want to consummate a trade that sends a MLB ready pitcher for a 2 month rental that is now PMS’ing.

  18. psr179 - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    I’m not sure how he truly felt “blindsided” considering the Braves have been rumored to have interest in him for over a month. Also, everyone has known that he had a 99.9999% chance of being traded. If reports are right that the Braves were #2 on his wishlist behind the Dodgers, then I really feel as if he’s being a little over dramatic about the whole thing.

    As a Braves fan, I don’t know if I’d want to consummate a trade that sends a MLB ready pitcher for a 2 month rental that is now PMS’ing.

  19. pellypell - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Operator: “Whine One One, What is your emergency?”

    Dempster: “I was bwind sided by the mean men on the intertubes”

    Operator: “Sending a wammbulance right away Mr. Dempter”

  20. joewilliesshnoz - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    A guy being paid by an organization is mad that they are trying to get rid of him,too bad, if he doesn’t like it, then maybe he should buy a majority share of the team .

    • meteor32 - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:29 PM

      Or get his union to negotiate some sort of clause where veterans with say 10 years of big league experience and maybe 5 years on the same team can reserve the right to block their being traded off the team they are on.

  21. Jonny 5 - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    He said any contenders, not Faux contenders.

  22. friarjack61 - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    I am a Cub fan, but with reality, and that is that the Cubs stink !! Trading Demster today, is like trading Maddox years ago. Over the years, the Cubs have made bad choices, and to me it seems that the only trades that were good for the fans, is when the traded for older players, like Bobby Thompson, Richie Ashburn, Bob Buhl, and a couple others, including Hank Sauer.

    I’m glad that I am a Chicago fan too, so I can hope that the White Sox, do well.

    Cubs…………get some common sense, and get to know player loyalty…….Shortstop Castro is a waste….he is a terrible infielder, with no field sense, and can’t hit his way out of a paper bag. TRADE is for a pair of shoe laces.

  23. psunick - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    There never seem to be media leaks before a player ends up in Anaheim.

  24. vallewho - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:47 PM

    So the “players” need to learn to cope with unprofessional front-office people?

    How about reporters actually report the news, instead of trying to make the news??

  25. dannythebisforbeast - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    Ryan dempster wants to be Dwight Howard.

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