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The Marlins are definitely considering moving Hanley Ramirez

Jul 24, 2012, 8:53 AM EDT

Hanley Ramirez

Last week there was some brief brouhaha over the Marlins trading Hanley Ramirez to the Red Sox for Carl Crawford, but that died pretty quickly and, in hindsight, seems like one of those “I’m bored, what do you wanna do/I don’t know, what do you wanna do” conversations.  But the Marlins may be a bit more serious than that. Scott Miller for CBS

Clubs who have spoken with the Marlins think more moves will follow, sources tell There is a strong belief that the Marlins would like to deal Ramirez, who has not produced under first-year manager Ozzie Guillen the way they hoped he would.

Ramirez is signed through 2014 and is owned the remainder of his $12 million for this season plus $31.5 million more for 2013-14. That’s a decent deal if Ramirez snap back into something approaching his 2006-10 form.

But given where his head is these days — punching fans and forgetting to take his medicine, leading to an infection — Ramirez figuring anything out seems like a tall order.

  1. kkolchak - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    Any team that trades for Ramirez will be hoping for the old “change of scenery” effect, but that’s a heck of an expensive gamble to take.

    • suhisabeast90 - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:26 AM

      Would not be surprised to see Detroit go back to the same well. They need a upgrade there and would have the double play combo back with Infante. They were very good in the field together. Too bad Victor Martiniz can’t catch everyday anymore. But he can still play first and is a huge upgrade over Gabby and LOMO. Sounds like the money would match up too.

  2. jhoneycutt9193 - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    am i not the only person that does not see hanley and rays as perfect trade partners? they have 3 front line starters not even in there rotation and the rays have zero pop at short

  3. suhisabeast90 - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    I see the Braves as a great fit. Simmons is not quite ready for the Bigs. Chipper is going and Prado can play anywhere. It is just a matter of what the want in return and if the would deal with the Braves.

    • Craig Calcaterra - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:23 AM

      He drove Fredi Gonzalez out of town and they friggin’ hate each other. Will never happen.

      • suhisabeast90 - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:28 AM

        I forgot about about that, good point. From a “on paper” standpoint it looks good though. They do want to send Chipper home a winner too. Don’t count the Braves out on any deals yet.

      • Old Gator - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:42 AM

        Come on Craig, wouldn’t you love to see him drive Fat Fredi out of Atlanta too?

      • Old Gator - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:42 AM

        Come on Craig, wouldn’t you love to see him drive Fat Fredi out of Atlanta too?

  4. jarathen - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    Yes, Marlins. Trade Ramirez now. His value has never been higher! As much as I wouldn’t want Ramirez in Angels red, the best the Marlins could hope for is some sort of Wells-Ramirez trade.

    Or Ervin Santana.

    • suhisabeast90 - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:30 AM

      David Wells or Casper Wells or Angel’s WIshing Wells?

    • sportfan23 - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM

      Worst. Trade. Idea. Ever.

      • jarathen - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:08 AM

        Any team that trades for this has-been malcontent is the worst.

  5. Old Gator - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    There are any number of teams where the Hanster would fit if he gets his head together. The problem is, he’s been a dog afield for most of the last two and a half seasons. It’s hard to imagine anyone taking a risk on his entire contract or, at the very least, taking his entire contract and then sending back anyone of superior value in trade. If the Feesh want to score big with a trade for him, they’re going to have to eat a lot of his salary. Trading Mr. Puss Knuckle at this point, though, wouldalso be addition by subtraction just in terms of refreshing the team’s collective attitude.

    • natslady - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:02 AM

      Gator, seriously, what happened to the Marlins? They had that hot May. They played that excellent, very focused “small ball” game against us after Bryce showed up Reyes and Hanley, Buehrle pitches well… Anibal Sanchez had our number. The skill was there. Seems like they were capable of having a good season. Is this on Ozzie for not keeping a good clubhouse? Is this on MLB for the TV cameras? I understand in the end it’s on the players, but how did such high hopes and good talent get into such disarray so fast?

      • kkolchak - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:23 AM

        My take is that a team’s veteran stars set the tone for the whole clubhouse, and Ramirez and Reyes are playing like a couple of guys who’ve gotten paid and are now just phoning it in. By contrast, Ryan Zimmerman and Jayson Werth have had their struggles at times, but you could never accuse them of dogging it.

  6. napoleonblownapart6887 - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:54 AM

    Initially when I read the line about ‘punching fans’ I thought Hanley had cold-cocked one of the Marlin faithful

    • dangle13x - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM

      ha I only just realized what that meant after reading your statement of confusion. Thanks for the clarification.

  7. xpensivewinos - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Sure seems like the Dodgers are not sold on Dee Gordon and it certainly seems like the new owners want to make a splash.

    Stranger things have happened……

    • napoleonblownapart6887 - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:52 AM

      Make a… “splash”? Oh ho ho you sir are wordsmith

      (no idea if it was intentional but made me chuckle).

  8. crali - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    I thought the owner LOVED him – guess he loves Ozzie more.

  9. buccaneerz78 - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Shields and zobrist for Han-ram..

  10. fincity305 - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    Pitching prospects, please

  11. stlouis1baseball - Jul 24, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    Alright…I have been out of the loop (on Vacation) and only catches snippets here and their on the MLB Channel. I realize Hanley has an infection (which according to Craig is a direct result of forgetting to take his medicine). That was news to me. Also (and of bigger concern)…he apparently punched a fan.
    WTF??? When did this happen? What transpired? Please update me on the whole fan punching thing.

    • SortaSports - Jul 24, 2012 at 3:19 PM

      I hate that writers and reporters keep not specifying that he it a fan, as in a mechanical device which rotates in order to produce a cooling effect, and not a freaking person. Perpetrators should be lashed, which includes pretty much article I’ve read on the subject.

      • SortaSports - Jul 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM

        *every article I’ve read..

      • stlouis1baseball - Jul 24, 2012 at 3:42 PM

        Thanks for the clarification. Huge difference between hitting a “cooling device” and hitting a “person.” Although both are quite stupid…one is far worse than the other. Thanks again.

      • SortaSports - Jul 24, 2012 at 5:06 PM

        lol. yeah, I’d prefer him not hitting either. Though some fans probably deserve it, but what did that fan ever do to him except try to keep him comfortable.

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