Comments on: A’s turned down trade for Hanley Ramirez in which Marlins would have eaten $20 million

By: hcf95688

hcf95688 — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:25:28 +0000

Word on the street is that the two minor leaguers were Choice and Straily.

By: joelwrobinson

joelwrobinson — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:18:57 +0000

The marlins wanted two of our best prospects. We all know Billy isn’t having any of that.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:43:46 +0000

Don’t worry. Be happy.

- Meher Baba

By: gammagammahey

gammagammahey — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:45:08 +0000

I can’t imagine anyone being crazy enough to take on Heath Bell’s deal at this point.

By: gammagammahey

gammagammahey — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:44:33 +0000

Pretty much. They blew their wad in free agency last year so they weren’t going to be able to shell out for Sanchez or even Infante. Ramirez was a sell (relatively) high/sunk cost move. Johnson is a bigger deal but he’s also going to bring back better players than either of the other two trades. Even if it’s not Olt, they should be able to get a solid young starter or starting position player for him.

By: APBA Guy

APBA Guy — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:37:07 +0000

I said yesterday that I didn’t believe the A’s would do this deal. They had to ask about the player, and for a less tight-fisted ownership, the trade may have been in the realm of possibility.

But honestly, as long as the A’s make a move at 3rd or short, or catcher, I don’t think they’ll be sorry about missing out on Hanley for this year. He doesn’t look like at impact bat right now, he’s negative in the field, and with a .750 OPS, cheaper options are available.

The A’s are not about moving major league ready pitching. The Dodgers can afford to play Hanley into shape, he needs to lose some weight and generally improve his fitness, as their financial muscle allows them to make a mistake, should this trade turn into one. It’s entirely possible that with some rededication plus the Dodger’s nutrition and conditioning coaching, Hanley will become an .850 OPS infielder again. But it probably won’t happen this year, and this year is what concerned the A’s.

By: jdl1325

jdl1325 — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:07:38 +0000

As an A’s fan, I can’t decide if I’m happy or sad we didn’t get Hanley. I guess it all depends on what we would have had to give up, but it sounds like the salary wasn’t the stumbling block I thought it would be.

By: hittfamily

hittfamily — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:59:52 +0000

When I first saw that Dodgers trade, I thought wow, the Dodgers really overpayed. Now I am positive of it.

JJ, Heath, and Ozzie to go, and they will be ready to compete.

By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:43:06 +0000

If they keep getting MLB ready talent for their players it should work out well for them by next season, or 2014 anyway, but man would a little relationship counseling help this team or what?!

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:33:20 +0000

Of course it’s a risk anyway, it may all blow up in the Marlin’s faces anyhow.

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:32:18 +0000

The more I read about the deals the Marlins made the more I think it’s less about SELL SELL SELL, and more about, let’s get rid of some dead weight, get some fresh ready pieces that will help us 2013 and beyond.

To recap:
* Anibal Sanchez. He was going to cost a pretty penny to keep, they exchanged him basically for Jacob Turner who can already start pitching. They also lost Omar Infante, that may have been the price for Turner but at least they had a back up plan.
* Hanley Ramirez. Underperforming star owed a lot of money? Gone in two years anyway? Declining for two straight years? Whiny? Hey the needed to get rid of Jose Reye’s gossip partner to pay attention to base runners more. They get Eovaldi in return who is also MLB ready.
* Potential Josh Johnson trade… he’s gone after next year. Mike Olt is a good return if they pull it off, the offense is more of a concern than the pitching.

This feels more like smart reloading so the money already due to Reyes and Buerhle has a better chance of paying off.