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Other owners “concerned” about the Marlins’ moves, sun rising in east

Jul 25, 2012, 11:32 AM EDT

This is a rather fun tweet:

 

Not sure I get it. Why would other owners be concerned? They certainly can’t be surprised. This is the guy who helped kill off the Expos and then has unloaded salary like it’s toxic waste at nearly every opportunity.  He hoodwinked local government into giving him a ballpark on the promise of largess and now he’s slashing the payroll.  He’s Jeff Loria: the same dude he’s always been.

Indeed, if you asked most owners over the past 40 years of baseball history, they would have told you that such behavior ensures the big picture health of baseball, not that it hinders it.  They’re full of it, of course, but they sure as hell can’t expect us to believe that they give a rat’s patootie about this, can they?

  1. chill1184 - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Where was this “concern” during Fred Wilpon’s little adventure? The all of a sudden concern by other owners doesnt smell right.

    • chadjones27 - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM

      Would you say, that it smells…. fishy?

      • hoopmatch - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:18 PM

        More like feeshy.

      • Jeremiah Graves - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:19 PM
      • Jeremiah Graves - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:20 PM

  2. geoknows - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Not only did other owners let him destroy the Expos, they turned around and approved his purchase of the Marlins. Seems to me they love the guy.

  3. brewcrewfan54 - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Maybe those upper offices are worried about future stadium financing. This type of stuff certainly should piss off the people who end up paying for these stadiums only to watch a bunch of guys get rich while the team they are supposed to support blows.

    • paperlions - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:52 AM

      Bingo. These guys are not worried about baseball, they are worried about the ability to use baseball to make money, as well as to get tax breaks, government handouts, and interest-free loans.

      • Ben - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:59 AM

        Maybe, but pretty much every team has extorted taxpayers for their stadium already, so they’re mostly good for another 20-30 years. You would think.

      • kkolchak - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:05 PM

        Yep–they are the TRUE socialists.

      • stlouis1baseball - Jul 25, 2012 at 3:11 PM

        Exactly Paper! They are worried about their ability to maximize the profits of their respective Companies. You know…like businessmen.

  4. stoankold - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    I’m guessing their concern is the same as it has always been with the Marlins. “Where is our revenue sharing money going?”

    • ThatGuy - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:16 PM

      I was going to say the exact same thing, but since you did I will just say

      This

  5. rcali - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    Fool me once…..

    • pellypell - Jul 25, 2012 at 4:51 PM

      “There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”

      – George W. Bush

  6. woodenulykteneau - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    Precisely the same concern shown in the 1950s with the series of “trades” between Kansas City and New York

  7. heat256 - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    Why? They spent, got underperforming players, and decided to not spend $100 million to field a mediocre team. Better to get prospects and if they’re going to go after big name guys, do it wisely. I’d like to see them get Lincecum, who like Hanley, could benefit from a change of scenery. Any move you make is risky. Players can get hurt, or just not mesh well with new teammates or the coaching staff. I don’t blame Loria at all. No one is really going to the new stadium, and the fans can’t use the excuse of them not spending as their reason for it. They spent, and no one really is going. Maybe Miami isn’t a baseball town. It’s mocked enough as a fair weather fan place, and it’s not like it’s a huge populated area anyways, so maybe MLB should have just let the team leave.

  8. 1972wasalongtimeago - Jul 25, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    The Marlins are going nowhere. Hanley Ramirez stinks. Anibal Sanchez is kind of okay but he’s not going to be resigned. Omar Infante s an expensive asset who I don’t have a problem trading away; but I do have a problem who we traded to get him (Dan Uggla). The team is 12.5 back. They have shown zero signs of life.

    In short, it’s journalistically and intellectually lazy to criticize these trades because the criticism only stems from past sins. in a vacuum, these trades are not only defensable, but (assuming the prospects have reasonable potential), necessary.

  9. hansob - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    please… if the Phillies unloaded Victorino, Hamels, and Pence after giving all that money recently to Lee, Howard, Rollins, and Papelbon, nobody would say a word.

    It’s not like these are bad baseball moves. They are an out-of-contention team unloading soon-to-be free agents and arguably overpaid former stars. That’s what out-of-contention teams SHOULD do.

  10. keithbangedyermom - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    Bud Selig is the bigger problem here.

  11. thereisaparty - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    I’m confused. It looks like the Marlins made pretty fantastic trades – two MLB-ready SP under the age of 23, and the ability to spend next offseaon. This talk of a fire-sale is beyond overblown. We should be congratulating the Marlins on making sound baseball decisions until there is any evidence of them curtailling spending.

    • giselleisasucubus - Jul 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM

      You are right, but because people don’t recognize the names (yet) they assume it is a bad deal. The Marlins only mistake is not trading Ramirez when they signed Reyes.

    • Cris E - Jul 26, 2012 at 10:15 AM

      The fact that the Marlins are making non-terrible baseball-related decisions (as opposed to payroll-based or fan pandering moves) is the concern for other teams. Loria used to be counted on to burn the place down on a regular basis and take on goofballs like Zambrano and Guillen as long as they didn’t cost much. If he takes this whole “baseball” thing more seriously it could be a problem for other teams.

  12. Old Gator - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    There are enough reasonable responses on this thread so that I’m going to knock off for a few hours and concentrate on making my seafood alfredo pasta for tonight. Rave on, gentes, rave on.

  13. moogro - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    Promise of large ass.

  14. giselleisasucubus - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    Hate to be that guy, but Loria was not the reason for the fall of the Expos. The 1994 strike was the reason the Expos fell apart ( Montreal AND Toronto’s attendance never recovered either). Take a look back at the attendance #’s and the guys they had to unload because they couldn’t afford them. Loria is a complete db, but the Expos fiasco is on the strike. Pedro, Larry Walker, Moises Alou, Vlad Guerrero, the list goes on. That team was loaded. It is a shame that the strike destroyed them, especially when they were on their way to a World Series title in 94.

  15. deathmonkey41 - Jul 25, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    Wait- the sun rises in the East?

  16. tuloisgod - Jul 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    Fact is that beisbol in Florida has been an unmitigated disaster, just like always. New stadium paid for by the fans, new ugly centerfield “art” paid for by the fans, new ridiculous clown-colored uniforms paid for by the fans, new “stars” paid for by the fans …. and an average attendance in Miami that ranks only 18th in the Majors. (Tampa Bay ranks 29th.) Seems like a good argument for contraction of a couple of teams.

    • Old Gator - Jul 26, 2012 at 12:02 AM

      Taking into consideration that the Feesh play in the 18th largest market in MLB population-wise (14th on the surface but take into account the four markets with two teams each), they are exactly where they ought to be in terms of attendance. Last year they were second to last, so they’ve moved up eleven full notches in the rankings. Check your stats before talking through your asshole.

  17. xmatt0926x - Jul 25, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    Wasn’t there a story a few months back where the president (I think that was his title) of the team was speaking at a gathering and he pissed everyone off by talking about how the teams management didn’t really care if the player moves they made were successful or not since they were going to make a fortune from getting the stadium no matter what happened? I believe his words were “we get all the money” or something close to that. It’s amazing that a franchise with two championship titles could be looked on as poorly as this franchise is.

  18. Gamera the Brave - Jul 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Heh, heh – he said, “patootie”…

  19. brianjoates - Jul 25, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    The Marlins should start offering pre all star game ticket packages and second half ticket packages. But then again by next season it will be empty and ownership will have cleaned up financially. How long until he can sell the team without paying the city sometype of penalty?

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