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Angels acquire Zack Greinke from the Brewers

Jul 27, 2012, 7:42 PM EST

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UPDATE: Morosi confirms that it’s Greinke for Segura, Hellweg and Pena.

By the way, Segura, Hellweg and Pena were ranked as Angels’ second, fourth and ninth best prospects by Baseball America coming into the season.

7:38 PM Nothing official yet, but Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register writes that prospect right-handers Ariel Pena and Johnny Hellweg are most likely being sent to Milwaukee along with Jean Segura. If so, that’s a pretty nice haul for a two-month rental who can’t be offered arbitration.

7:24 PM ET: Things just got very interesting in the American League West.

According to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com, the Angels have acquired right-hander Zack Greinke from the Brewers.

The Brewers are getting prospect shortstop Jean Segura and two Double-A pitchers in return. Rosenthal writes that the deal is done, but the “finishing touches” are still being applied.

Greinke, an impending free agent, wraps up his tenure with the Brewers with a 3.67 ERA in 49 starts over two seasons. The Brewers recently offered him a contract extension, reportedly in the range of five years and $100 million, but the two sides weren’t able to make progress on an agreement.

With Greinke, Jered Weaver and C.J. Wilson as their big three, it’s safe to say the Angels could go toe-to-toe with anyone if they make the playoffs. They could be even more dangerous if Dan Haren and Ervin Santana get back on track.

The AL West-leading Rangers might have had a bigger need for the starter than the Angels did, so it will be interesting to see whether they intensify their efforts to land Josh Johnson from the Marlins or possibly James Shields from the Rays.

  1. pjmitch - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    Greinke, Weaver, Wilson, Haren, Santana…game over

    • proudlycanadian - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM

      Santana? Surely you jest. Greinke will replace Santana in the rotation.

      • schlom - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:35 PM

        I wonder how Santana will be used in the bullpen? I’m not sure I’d totally trust Frieri to be the closer down the stretch, the Padres never seemed to trust him in close games because of his wildness. Could Ervin be the future closer? He’s certainly been more effective as a starter than some of the great relievers like Rivera and Joe Nathan.

      • sabatimus - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:32 PM

        Wow schlom; I’m not sure I’ve read a bigger bunch of bull than that. And that’s saying something.

    • fearlessleader - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM

      “Game over”—yes, because baseball is played on paper and spending lots of money on expensive players always guarantees championships!

      • keithbangedyermom - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:37 PM

        Yeah – its nowhere near game over, just a great addition to a team that will make the playoffs.

      • ramblingphilliesfan - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:46 PM

        As my fanbase knows quite well…

      • xmatt0926x - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:19 PM

        It doesnt guarantee anything but lets stop kidding ourselves. The more elite starters you have the better. I’ll put my money on a team with several top starters every time. It won’t win every year but it will win more than not. It’s well known that any world series champ will need some lucky breaks to get through all the playoff games but having the better talent goes a long way. The Angels are doing what they should. They are going for it while the opportunity is there. I’ll take that over the boatload of teams that will never go for it and spend 15 years talking about keeping the farm teams stocked.

    • joelwrobinson - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:36 PM

      wilson sucks, haren sucks, and santana is the very definition of SUCK.

    • dondada10 - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:46 PM

      Following that logic, the Braves won numerous world championships in the 90s.

  2. okwhitefalcon - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    Not exactly the return I thought they’d get but oh well, rentals coming cheap these days.

    • paperlions - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:42 PM

      Well, Segura is a better prospect than the pitcher the Braves were going to give up for Dempster….so, there’s that….it’ll be interesting to see who the pitchers are….getting a top 50ish prospect for a 2 month rental isn’t too bad, Segura is definitely a big step up from the comp pick….considering that Greinke has only been about 0.4-0.5 runs/9IP better than league average the last couple of years…that really isn’t bad return.

      • paperlions - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:49 PM

        Not bad at all, that is the Angels 1st and 3rd best prospects (both of which are top 100 guys overall) and another top 10 Angels guy.

        I’d say that is a good haul for the Brewers and a good move for the Angels…gotta go for it when you get a chance, and they are obviously changing from a development to a FA model.

      • okwhitefalcon - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:16 PM

        I think the trade served it’s purpose for both clubs for the most part, I’m a bit surprised the Crew didn’t get anyone off the Angels big league roster.

        As for Greinke, the Angels would clearly be getting the better end of the deal if he was pitching all his remaining starts at Miller Park…

      • paperlions - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:23 PM

        Agreed, I think it is win/win. Out of curiosity, who off of the Angels MLB roster would the Brewers want? That team has some great players and a bunch of yuck to go with it.

      • okwhitefalcon - Jul 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

        Ya know, I’m not sure.

        Maybe Bourjos or Santana? Either would be flippable for the Brewers but that’s just fantasy GM’ing on my part.

  3. cosanostra71 - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:32 PM

    wow! great trade by the Angels! even kept one of my favorite players, peter bourjos. Go Halos!

    • proudlycanadian - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:35 PM

      And the Angels also get to keep Vernon Wells!

      • cosanostra71 - Jul 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

        yeah… about that.

      • proudlycanadian - Jul 27, 2012 at 9:41 PM

        Vernon is just coming off the DL.

      • cosanostra71 - Jul 27, 2012 at 9:54 PM

        well that’s comforting!

    • joelwrobinson - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:37 PM

      why is bourjous one of your favorite players? haha incredible

      • cosanostra71 - Jul 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

        why wouldn’t he be? outstanding defensive player, and he’s good in the community too.

  4. keithbangedyermom - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    Wow….surely they are getting Bourjos too, right? RHP Ariel Pena, from AA, is probably part of the deal as well.

  5. doctorfootball - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    Nice pickup for the Angels. That said, it’s anything but a foregone conclusion that Greinke will be lights out for them. Remember, this guy is a mess upstairs (his head). He doesn’t do well under pressure. Still, a good trade for the Halos.

    • keithbangedyermom - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM

      That has to be one of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever seen on here. “A mess upstairs”

      Really, doctor? Last I checked he was reported to have had a minor anxiety disorder that he takes medication for. He also makes millions and has a wife who is a model. I dont think he’s really “a mess upstairs.”

      • sabatimus - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:34 PM

        That’s some support for your argument.

      • 24missed - Jul 27, 2012 at 9:13 PM

        Tons of people have anxiety disorders and take meds for them. Big friggin’ deal. I highly doubt he is the only baseball player that has anxiety or any other psychiatric disorders.

  6. beefytrout - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    Hey, um, Josh Hamilton? In case you were wondering, now would be the time to go on a tear.

  7. randygnyc - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:51 PM

    If nothing else, this all but guarantees the red sox won’t make the post season. I wonder what Cherrington said when he heard this?

  8. marlinman15 - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:55 PM

    Somewhere in the universe Marlins execs are frothing at the mouth for the deal they could NOW get for JJ

    • Old Gator - Jul 28, 2012 at 8:34 AM

      Feesh executives froth at the mouth anyway. What was that chihuahua carrying in its saliva?

  9. brewcrewfan54 - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    Disapointed to see Greinke go but I like what the Crew got in return. Three pretty good prospects that aren’t too far from the Majors for a guy they were going to lose is a good haul.

  10. soundsofsuccess7 - Jul 27, 2012 at 7:58 PM

    I loved Segura until the Angels called him up and he f***ing sucked.

  11. dkphilly1122 - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    He is kind of a mess up stairs, considering he has major anxiety issues, hence why he didn’t wanna go to a big city. Plus he has ADD I believe too. No one’s saying he can’t live a normal life and get a hot wife, that has nothing to do with anything. He just can’t handle the pressures of playing in a big city with his anxiety issues and all. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good pitcher still. I don’t think the rest of the Angels staff beyond him and Weaver are any good. CJ Wilson sucks and is overpaid, Santana is in a major funk and Haren is just average. They’ll make the playoffs, but not out of the 1st or 2nd round this year.

    • atlrod - Jul 27, 2012 at 9:06 PM

      CJ Wilson sucks? At what? Baseball? Really? I mean, his SO/BB ratio isn’t as good as last year, but he’s got an ERA+ of 132 this year, which is pretty damn good. And I think I’ll wait to see what Mr. Greinke can do with the anxiety issues that you’ve diagnosed. My understanding is that he takes meds for his problems and has learned how to cope. He’s also pretty good at throwing baseballs. So… you know… it COULD work out ok.

  12. muskyhunter2542 - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    let me be the first to say… Fire Doug Melvin NOW!!! I am not renewing my season tickets

    • brewcrewfan54 - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:11 PM

      So what exactly should hE have done? Guy like you seem to forget that hos moves got the Brewers to the cusp of the World Series last year.

  13. randygnyc - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    Brew crew- you can’t blame some of the brewers fans if they’re disappointed that the team has failed to sign Fielder and now Grienke, just in the last 6 months.

    • brewcrewfan54 - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM

      If they are Brewer fans and have any idea of how the business side of baseball works they should understand. Fire Doug Melvin and the next Brewer GM has the same economic issues Melvin has. The truth is Melvin has made some mistakes but he’s also made some bold moves that paid off a great deal. His good moves outnumber his bad ones.

  14. brewcitybummer - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    For Brewers fans who are freaking out, go to episode 81 of “up and in” the baseball prospectus podcast. At the 1:05:30 mark Kevin Goldstein and Jason Parks talk about Segura and Hellweg. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

  15. kvanhorn87 - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM

    There is another rotation better than the nationals

    • wlschneider09 - Jul 28, 2012 at 12:19 AM

      Dude, you failed to convince any of us with your previous proposals.

  16. randygnyc - Jul 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    Brewcrew- I didn’t necessarily mean its Melvin’s fault, as much as ownership. After losing 2 of your 3 best players, it’s hard to fault anyone for being discouraged.

    • brewcrewfan54 - Jul 27, 2012 at 9:09 PM

      Randy, our payroll is right around $100 million this year. Ownership has shown a willingness to spend money. There is a limitation though on what the Brewers can afford to give guys. If these guys are Brewer fans they should be aware of the uphill battle of small market baseball. As rich a man as mark Antanassio is he’s not trying to lose money. I agree it sucks losing players but its the way it is. The Brewers have actually done a good job recently of keeping guys around a little longer than usual.

      • brewcitybummer - Jul 27, 2012 at 9:27 PM

        There’s a large segment of Brewers fans that are there for the party and they tend to be the ones who get up in arms about this stuff. I know I’m probably too far the other way with the armchair gm stuff and not enjoying the party enough. But all will be well when the team is good again and that could be pretty soon.

      • brewcrewfan54 - Jul 27, 2012 at 9:33 PM

        I don’t have a problem with fans who may not be as in tune with the Brewer personell secisions as I am I just ask that they realize the Brewers will always be financially behind the 8 ball when it comes to the top free agents. They will occasionally get a Braun that will give the hometown discount but he’s going to be the exception and not the rule.

  17. jkb0162 - Jul 28, 2012 at 1:50 AM

    Remember the good old days when the Rangers would waste lots of money and not win anything and there were the Angels sweeping the division every single year? Sounds like roles have reversed. Greinke wasn’t exactly a need with Weaver and Wilson at the top of the rotation, meanwhile the Angels may get over 200 million deep in contracts to pitchers which would be a good model for success unless you looked at the Philly’s the last two years.

  18. wj4122 - Jul 28, 2012 at 3:18 AM

    Thank you jkb…..has no one learned anything from the phillies?? They got a ring BUT before the monster pitcher payroll and major contract to only a couple position players. A couple of key injuries + age equals disaster. Injuries will always always happen. What are the angels going to do about the payroll after they sign him in the offseason? I sure hope pujols can hit for the whole team.

  19. fuddpucker - Jul 28, 2012 at 3:22 AM

    Welcome to the Angels, Zack.

  20. wj4122 - Jul 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    Angels are always trying to win over the hearts and control of la but sorry it will always bleed dodger blue!

  21. muskyhunter2542 - Jul 30, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Im not bitter that The Brewers traded Greinke, Im bitter because they failed to get back equal to, or greater than what was given up for him…

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