Comments on: How about just trading Cliff Lee for Josh Beckett?

By: 24missed

24missed — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:43:27 +0000

Agreed. I think Beckett is a fine pitcher and I’m glad he’s here. So, he’s got the rep for being grouchy at times? Meh. Doesn’t take away his ability to pitch. I guess he’s human. He’s also a pretty good pitcher.

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:34:19 +0000

Couldn’t get past the title, and yet you commented anyway?

And remember, punctuation and capitalization are our friends. They help others understand what we are trying to say.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:41:22 +0000

You can make numbers say anything. Comparing career ERA+ or just one season is a waste of time. A more accurate representation of their current value looks like this…

Over the past 3 seasons Beckett has an ERA+ of 105
Over the past 3 seasons Lee has an ERA+ of 133

By: Ryan

Ryan — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:41:13 +0000

You can make numbers say anything. Comparing career ERA+ or just one season is a waste of time. A more accurate representation of their current value looks like this…

Over the past 3 seasons Becket has an ERA+ of 105
Over the past 3 seasons Lee has an ERA+ of 133

By: muir6

muir6 — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:32:18 +0000

Couldn’t get past the title was the rest just as stupid

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:15:10 +0000

Another reason Lee wouldn’t go to Beantown: his games don’t drag along slower than cold molasses.

By: soj83

soj83 — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:40:09 +0000

as a Sox fan I would love this trade, but as a realist, it couldn’t be a 1 for 1.

By: proudlycanadian

proudlycanadian — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:28:14 +0000

But when was it disclaimed? Matthew can edit his posts, but we can’t.

By: deathmonkey41

deathmonkey41 — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:15:31 +0000

Well, maybe if your owner is Jeffery Loria…

By: sabatimus

sabatimus — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:14:00 +0000

This article is disclaimed. Did you notice?

By: Matthew Pouliot

Matthew Pouliot — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:07:22 +0000

Is there a good pitcher in baseball who takes more **** for not being great than Josh Beckett?

Beckett has a career ERA+ of 114. Lee is at 115.
Beckett was at 150 last year, Lee was at 160.
Beckett is at 95 this year, Lee is at 101.

Beckett has definitely had some bumps in the road (2010, for instance), and his attitude leaves something to be desired, though at least part of it is that he’s not very good with the press. But Beckett’s a perfectly fine pitcher, one who has been a key cog on two world champions.

Yes, I agree with everyone that Lee is a better bet going forward, even though he’s older by a couple of years. $56 million better? I wouldn’t bet on that.

By: billymc75

billymc75 — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:06:43 +0000

Because Lee would reject playing for a loser, and bobby V he’s already on a loser, he wants a winning team

By: illad3lph1a

illad3lph1a — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:59:35 +0000

I hope he is kidding maybe Beckett and middlebrooks

By: axltcu

axltcu — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:51:34 +0000

As a Sox fan I would love to see them get away with robbery like this.

By: dowhatifeellike

dowhatifeellike — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:46:19 +0000

One of them is a good pitcher and the other is not. I don’t know why a team would intentionally get worse to save a little money in a league without a salary cap.

By: proudlycanadian

proudlycanadian — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:36:49 +0000

Nice attempt at humor Matthew, but you well know that Boston does not want to pay the Luxury Tax. I think that some of the wacky trade ideas that I have proposed have a better chance of occurring.

By: deathmonkey41

deathmonkey41 — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:34:54 +0000

Why aren’t the Dodgers showing any interest in the gum-chewing doosh?

By: proudlycanadian

proudlycanadian — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:34:20 +0000

Just gallows humor at the trade deadline.

By: joebuckiscreepy

joebuckiscreepy — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:32:50 +0000

::crickets::

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:31:36 +0000

Um…no. Beckett would be eaten alive here. I still fail to see how Cliffy is going anywhere. There have been just as many NDs and losses pinned on his pitching as there have been on a lack of run support.

And…no.

By: F14TRex.com

F14TRex.com — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:26:36 +0000

What is wrong with this site today?

By: 1943mrmojorisin1971

1943mrmojorisin1971 — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:26:30 +0000

So down.

By: ame123

ame123 — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:22:40 +0000

nope, irrelevant bunch of games, actually sets up Phillies better for 2013.

By: ame123

ame123 — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:21:56 +0000

What a horrible proposal. Just terrible.

By: randygnyc

randygnyc — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:20:27 +0000

Yeah, I can’t see the phillies trading one of the best pitchers in the league to Boston for the biggest douchebag in baseball.

By: trybe29dr

trybe29dr — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:18:52 +0000

Its one thing to wave a white flag for the season its entirely another thing to set a franchise back 5 years

By: doctorfootball

doctorfootball — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:15:18 +0000

I think the Braves did just that to your testicles over the weekend.

By: bleedgreen

bleedgreen — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:14:07 +0000

As a Phillies fan, I concur. No. Just no.

By: grapes911

grapes911 — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:06:49 +0000

Lee for Beckett? As a Phillies fan I’d rather get punched in the testicles.