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	<title>Comments on: Indians DFA veteran right-hander Derek Lowe</title>
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		<title>By: Walk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Walk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 21:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel bad for him or at least as bad as possible for someone as successful and well off as a pro ball player. He had some bad years in atlanta and i was really hoping he would get it back together in cleavland. As bad as last year in atlanta was you could tell he was trying every game out, changing his grip on his pitches, which may or may not have made things worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad for him or at least as bad as possible for someone as successful and well off as a pro ball player. He had some bad years in atlanta and i was really hoping he would get it back together in cleavland. As bad as last year in atlanta was you could tell he was trying every game out, changing his grip on his pitches, which may or may not have made things worse.</p>
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		<title>By: runteddyrun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[runteddyrun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps his buddy Dusty will give him a call...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps his buddy Dusty will give him a call&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hockeyflow33</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hockeyflow33]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[he cant be worse than Beckett and at least he&#039;ll go 5 innings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he cant be worse than Beckett and at least he&#8217;ll go 5 innings</p>
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		<title>By: chief0727</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chief0727]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a NL team that plays in Yellowstone National Park ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a NL team that plays in Yellowstone National Park ?</p>
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		<title>By: deathmonkey41</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deathmonkey41]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 16:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could see a NL team with a big ballpark taking a chance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could see a NL team with a big ballpark taking a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: tfbuckfutter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tfbuckfutter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He also got shelled in the 2003 ALCS.

And he won 3 games in the 2004 playoffs, 1 as a reliever. I&#039;m not saying that wasn&#039;t a fine accomplishment, but he was so incredibly bad that 10th inning duty in game 3 of a series the Sox were sweeping was the only duty he even saw in the DS. 

I&#039;m not trying to take too much away from him in respect to the 2004 playoffs, but really....anyone could have been the pitcher of record in Game 3 of the ALDS and game 4 of the World Series (They were sweeping which is the only reason he even got the ball. If the series were 2-1 or even worse 1-2 Lowe would not have been starting)....and as for game 7 of the ALCS....kind of hard to lose when the team stakes you to a 6-0 lead. But again, he did pitch a fine game. But most other pitchers on the team would have won that game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also got shelled in the 2003 ALCS.</p>
<p>And he won 3 games in the 2004 playoffs, 1 as a reliever. I&#8217;m not saying that wasn&#8217;t a fine accomplishment, but he was so incredibly bad that 10th inning duty in game 3 of a series the Sox were sweeping was the only duty he even saw in the DS. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to take too much away from him in respect to the 2004 playoffs, but really&#8230;.anyone could have been the pitcher of record in Game 3 of the ALDS and game 4 of the World Series (They were sweeping which is the only reason he even got the ball. If the series were 2-1 or even worse 1-2 Lowe would not have been starting)&#8230;.and as for game 7 of the ALCS&#8230;.kind of hard to lose when the team stakes you to a 6-0 lead. But again, he did pitch a fine game. But most other pitchers on the team would have won that game.</p>
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		<title>By: adowding3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[adowding3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He won all four of the series clinching games in the &#039;04 run, including on two days rest in game 7 of the ALCS. Dude gets a free pass on everything else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He won all four of the series clinching games in the &#8217;04 run, including on two days rest in game 7 of the ALCS. Dude gets a free pass on everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: papalurchdxb</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/01/indians-dfa-veteran-right-hander-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-340988</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[papalurchdxb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you lot giving me the thumbs down either have no sense of humor or incredibly short memories.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/01/and-that-happened-tuesdays-scores-and-highlights-78/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you lot giving me the thumbs down either have no sense of humor or incredibly short memories.</p>
<p><a href="http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/01/and-that-happened-tuesdays-scores-and-highlights-78/" rel="nofollow">http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/01/and-that-happened-tuesdays-scores-and-highlights-78/</a></p>
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		<title>By: tfbuckfutter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tfbuckfutter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first Red Sox fan who says they should take a chance on him needs to be punched in the dick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first Red Sox fan who says they should take a chance on him needs to be punched in the dick.</p>
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		<title>By: tfbuckfutter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tfbuckfutter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He was actually a regular disappointment in Boston, imo.

He always raised expectations and then when the team counted on him, he flopped.

He was a very good middle reliever, stepped into the closer&#039;s role due to necessity and was lights out. So they go into the next season counting on him to continue being a solid closer, and he flops. Hard. So they have to acquire Ugueth Urbina, and the convert Lowe to starter without much expectation.

What happens? He finishes 3rd in the Cy Young race, and the Sox finally have a solid #2 option behind Pedro. So they don&#039;t add any major acquisitions to the rotation, and what do they get from their solid #2? His ERA goes up 2 runs and he is almost exactly league average. So they go into 2004 acquiring Curt Schilling to shore up the rotation and counting on Lowe to at least be average, maybe improve a little....nope. One of the worst starting pitcher in baseball (Granted there were a few guys with worse ERAs, but he also allowed 28 unearned runs!)

And that sums up Lowe&#039;s career in Boston. 2 seasons where he was a beast. And then he failed miserably after each one. 

Of course, some off field indiscretions may have played a role in all that but that doesn&#039;t change what happened on the field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was actually a regular disappointment in Boston, imo.</p>
<p>He always raised expectations and then when the team counted on him, he flopped.</p>
<p>He was a very good middle reliever, stepped into the closer&#8217;s role due to necessity and was lights out. So they go into the next season counting on him to continue being a solid closer, and he flops. Hard. So they have to acquire Ugueth Urbina, and the convert Lowe to starter without much expectation.</p>
<p>What happens? He finishes 3rd in the Cy Young race, and the Sox finally have a solid #2 option behind Pedro. So they don&#8217;t add any major acquisitions to the rotation, and what do they get from their solid #2? His ERA goes up 2 runs and he is almost exactly league average. So they go into 2004 acquiring Curt Schilling to shore up the rotation and counting on Lowe to at least be average, maybe improve a little&#8230;.nope. One of the worst starting pitcher in baseball (Granted there were a few guys with worse ERAs, but he also allowed 28 unearned runs!)</p>
<p>And that sums up Lowe&#8217;s career in Boston. 2 seasons where he was a beast. And then he failed miserably after each one. </p>
<p>Of course, some off field indiscretions may have played a role in all that but that doesn&#8217;t change what happened on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: ptho16</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ptho16]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably the people in Atlanta who were still paying 2/3rds of his salary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the people in Atlanta who were still paying 2/3rds of his salary.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know, and only ten years later!  That happened so suddenly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, and only ten years later!  That happened so suddenly.</p>
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		<title>By: badassleroybrown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[badassleroybrown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoa!    Who outside of Cleveland knew he was still pitching]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa!    Who outside of Cleveland knew he was still pitching</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The low down, is that he is over the hill. Time for him to retire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The low down, is that he is over the hill. Time for him to retire.</p>
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		<title>By: hitem396</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hitem396]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 08:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[he couldnt find any hot reporters in cleveland]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he couldnt find any hot reporters in cleveland</p>
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		<title>By: Bryz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny how that happens when you&#039;re 39 years old in MLB.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how that happens when you&#8217;re 39 years old in MLB.</p>
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		<title>By: phreakin</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/01/indians-dfa-veteran-right-hander-derek-lowe/comment-page-1/#comment-340876</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phreakin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 04:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember web this guy was a beast in Boston? Now he gets cut from the Indians.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember web this guy was a beast in Boston? Now he gets cut from the Indians.</p>
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		<title>By: papalurchdxb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[papalurchdxb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 03:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t tell Mookie that she has an option to demote Daddy if she wants to Craig!!]]></description>
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