Comments on: Phillies trade Joe Blanton to Dodgers for player to be named

By: manchestermiracle

manchestermiracle — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 02:08:31 +0000

After this stiff serves up a bunch more home runs to help the Dodgers miss the playoffs just what level player will the Phillies get? A Class A player might be too good.

By: gogigantos

gogigantos — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:49:59 +0000

Sorry, Lions,,,,,
regular reader I, rare poster really
thought I was getting some good dialogue with a Phightn Phan, should have recognized you as a Card douche,,, hehehehehe
Cards are old, but those guys aren’t the future, that isn’t all bad eh
Rooting for Dusty, hope that irks you. I always loved him, like having Jazz in the dugout and just twice removed from Ancient History,, fuck, Dusty played with Aaron and under Alston in LA
Do you miss LaRussa? Loved him once,, not so much and don’t miss him a bit really.

By: gogigantos

gogigantos — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:37:21 +0000

I relish the times when my team stinks and tickets are easy and cheap. There were several years when the GiGantos stunk and good seats at a great park were easy. Baseball is great then too, not just when the place is full eh.
Damn, some nights at the ‘Stick or Oaktown way back when less than 5,000 show are some of the greatest memories ever. Eff, when the Niners were donkey droppings, going to a football game was fun.
A weekday day game at the New Yard in SF with 15-2000 not so many years ago were some good days at the yard for sure. Damn Sam, your team being down is not the end of the world. Much less so than your team being close and not getting it done when tickets are hard, the yard is crowded with fools, and the GM should have been sold off for glue long ago. I know you know Lions, I know you know.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:30:15 +0000

The Phillies may be feared….to clarify, I’m a Cardinal fan from StL, “we” may be feared next month.

By: gogigantos

gogigantos — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:27:47 +0000

A lot of weight on the ‘Doc to hold down the rotation, and Lee if the Fodgers don’t pony up. I think they will pony up in a large cash freeing way. Duck them all into the 22nd century, and all their ducking cousins too. The Nats due to regress, or progress? Maybe it is a rebuild along with having the old guard, glory, on hand to sell some seats. The last of Ut and a long spell of Howard. Reminds me of McCovey’s last round with the GiGantos, not all bad really, not really the same caliber, but you know what I mean. Yes, Howard wears a ring that Willie Mac never will, so there is that. I do think it will be a down time, but it doesn’t have to be a broke $$ time and decade walk in the wilderness like the last time the Phils fell off a cliff. I do think they can take a shorter fall and walk back, maybe Howard is still there when the next crew arrives. Winning won’t be a completely forgotten concept by then, yet.
I will enjoy the Phils being down for a spell though. Sorry about that, NOT. Ushering the Doc and Lee out in 2010 is a highlight of life that just doesn’t come often, or ever dim. You all will remember this time, not for only winning one, but for building a beast that was feared. You all will be feared again, in time.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:23:18 +0000

Oh, I think Sabean is a horrible GM…he was dealt with some great cards by those in the Giants organization that scout amateur talent and draft…but his moves almost all back fire….paying too much for guys that are too old.

By: gogigantos

gogigantos — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:17:25 +0000

Lions, sorry for all the words,,,,,
My gut does not like the Pence trade, really don’t think he gets it done for us. I hope I am wrong. Why should I like him, aside from the clearly alien presence he gives us? What will bum me out about him, aside from the bug eyed alien factor?
Jesus, sign him long term or pay arb price,, just like Sabes, effing idiot
Enjoy Nate, he might blossom for you all given a steady shot, like the last two months of a lost season. He may show he is worth a bit more than the cheap player he will be next year.Nate, the Great, will be missed in this corner of the world for sure.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:15:04 +0000

That’s true, they really did walk out onto thin ice, with no idea how thin it was, or how deep the water was….I don’t think they’ll be competitive any time soon no matter how much payroll they shed. If Lee leaves, fine…but who replaces him? They shed money with Victorino and Blanton and Pence…but again, those were still the best guys they had to play those roles….who is available to replace them? Their system is among the worst in the majors, not a lot on the FA market, and most of it will be old, expensive, or both.

By: gogigantos

gogigantos — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:08:05 +0000

Do you have to fall off the cliff, or, is there a stair case or an elevator option to the fall and provides a way back up?
Can they find a blend of money and age, vets, youth, and enough pitching that makes, or keeps, them competitive sooner than a full rebuild while still paying for past glory?

By: gogigantos

gogigantos — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 14:00:59 +0000

How far is the fall?
I respect the chance they took for sure, but did they really assess the risk? From my own passion, I liked the Beltran trade enough, but not so much letting Wheeler go,, but it seemed worth the shot at more glory.
Where is the rope, something to hold on to here? Or, do we have to step into the abyss? More and more, it looks like the abyss for the Phightins. Not going to be sad about it.
If the Fodgers take on all that money, good for the Phils, and damn the Fodgers all to hell. Hope the enjoy chewing on it, and, well, damn me, they will probably love chewing on it and some more chunks of change along the way. The Fodgers will be soon landing, or crafting, the largest TV deal this planet has ever seen. My nightmares come true.
As far as beating Mr. Lee, not worried really. I do hope whoever is paying him regrets it all the way to the bank.
retooling? reloading? or just paring down the payroll? the future is less murky now than it was,,
I love the phrase for all the vitriol it spawned that seems to have, largely, disappeared and how true it was/is.
Maybe the Phils can go with a blend of cheap and vet and still compete well enough to get to the crap shoot that has become the post season.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:48:34 +0000

I love that line too….but was it really ever murky? They were an obviously old team heading for a cliff, the only question was if they were going to reach the cliff in 2012 or 2013.

By: bchapman2011

bchapman2011 — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:40:35 +0000

Sorry but the term “reloading” was created by a fan that was in denial that his team was rebuilding. When a team starts dumping as many large contracts as possible in exchange for young and unproven prospects it is a rebuild. I am not hating on the Phillies but it will take several years to contention.

By: gogigantos

gogigantos — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:57:39 +0000

The future, it’s all a bit murky.

By: robmar924

robmar924 — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 04:52:30 +0000

its funny hearing philly fans talk about getting back to the top next year with an aging team, trading away the few bright spots and a below average farm system. What is there to convince anyone they will be a powerhouse anytime soon??

By: leftywildcat

leftywildcat — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 03:55:19 +0000

Let’s all hope that the PTBNL is in the BSOHL.

By: kiwicricket

kiwicricket — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 02:08:13 +0000

A bit more sun out in LA, might help him photosynthesize better.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:39:01 +0000

Uh huh….who is available for them to “reload”?

The worst thing in sports is a GM with money to spend and no one to spend it on….that never, ever ends well.

By: beavertonsteve

beavertonsteve — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:10:09 +0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickie_Noles

At least if you get traded for yourself you know you got equal value

By: dkphilly1122

dkphilly1122 — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:07:30 +0000

Big Joe served his purpose with the Phillies as a 4th or 5th starter and came thru in 08, especially with that nasty homerun. The Phillies will be back in 2013 and put the Nats back in the basement. They are first in the East for the first time in over 5 years and suddenly they have “passionate” fans, incredible. That’s no offense to the true Nat fans that liked them when they sucked, the few fans that there actually was. We will be back on top next year. They’re not rebuilding, retooling what they have. They have to for there TV contract in 2 more years.

By: phillieseaglessixersflyers

phillieseaglessixersflyers — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:04:50 +0000

he will most likely be up in time for his next scheduled start

By: citynative

citynative — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:04:36 +0000

The Phire Sale continues.

By: cleverbob

cleverbob — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:04:16 +0000

I wonder if that’s actually ever happened in the history of “player to be named later” transactions. Quick, someone with means and motivation look it up!

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:57:37 +0000

I think he just pitched a couple of nights ago… There may be another change in a few days, or they’ll just wait and call him up in September, who knows.

By: greymares

greymares — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:50:38 +0000

Blanton is a great 2nd half pitcher and leads all of baseball so/walks by a large margin, but i wouldn’t expect you to know that, it seems that your baseball knowledge begins and ends with it’s a hard game to play.

By: phillieseaglessixersflyers

phillieseaglessixersflyers — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:47:53 +0000

they are calling up bj rosenberg

By: greymares

greymares — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:46:44 +0000

Cloyd pitched 2 days ago, i think he will be taking Blantons spot in 2 days. pettibone was promoted to AAA Pigs from AA Reading so somebody is going to Philly, must be Cloyd.

By: dolphins4

dolphins4 — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:45:24 +0000

The Dodgers are loading up.I hope the Phillies get a really good player to be named later.

By: Francisco (FC)

Francisco (FC) — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:39:03 +0000

I was going to mention this, they should bring him up at some point this season this season.

By: robmar924

robmar924 — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:36:47 +0000

odd move by the Dodgers to downgrade their rotation when they want to make a playoff run

By: ihatepancakes

ihatepancakes — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:36:41 +0000

Tyler Cloyd must have done something wrong in a previous life, what more does that kid need to do to get called up?