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Red Sox trade for Twins’ Danny Valencia

Aug 5, 2012, 2:52 PM EDT

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As first reported by beat writer Rhett Bollinger of MLB.com, the Red Sox have acquired infielder Danny Valencia from the Twins in exchange for minor-league outfielder Jeremias Pineda.

Valencia has been assigned to Triple-A Pawtucket, where he’ll attempt to rebuild his career after batting just .198/.212/.310 in 132 plate appearances with Minnesota and .250/.289/.399 for their Triple-A club.

The 27-year-old slugged 15 home runs and collected 72 RBI across 608 plate appearances last season.

Pinedas, 21, was hitting .421 with a .981 OPS in 36 games this year for Boston’s Gulf Coast League affiliate.

  1. rgledz - Aug 5, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    Awesome! Another outfielder…..the Twins don’t need pitching or anything. It’s exciting to know that Terry Ryan has made a trade for another player that will more than likely never see the majors. They have so many outfielders in the system including the first round pick from this year Buxton. I guess they need a ton of good outfielders when they only have a bunch of low 90′s throwing contact pitchers at every level. Can we please get a real GM????

    • reptar24 - Aug 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM

      If nothing else, at least they have a lot of pretty good trade chips for the future.

    • Bryz - Aug 5, 2012 at 4:05 PM

      Right. Valencia would have brought back a major-league quality starting pitcher. How stupid of Terry Ryan to not ask for that.

      • rgledz - Aug 5, 2012 at 6:24 PM

        Ya, because that’s what I said big guy……not so much. I didn’t say anything about a major league ready pitcher. I said they have a ton of outfield prospects at every level including the Gulf Coast league. Are you seriously sticking up for Terry Ryan?? Every trade he makes results in a player that will never see the majors…..are you happy with that? Are you happy with the “major league” pitchers that they have going right now? Usually he gets a soft throwing pitcher that has ties to Minnesota. Maybe he should have asked for that….obviously this satisfies you.

      • brewdogg - Aug 6, 2012 at 1:27 AM

        I think you may be confusing Terry Ryan with Bill Smith. What exactly is your major gripe about the trades that Ryan has made in the past year? Because his track record before he stepped down and let Smith take over has earned him some leeway from me, especially considering that he hasn’t moved any real big pieces anyway. In case you have forgotten, Ryan has a habit of coming out on the better end of deals, even if they aren’t all earth-shattering. If he decides to move an outfielder or two in the offseason to make room for Hicks, Benson, or Arcia, then I am sure that we will be happy to see whoever they get in return a couple years down the road. Try to remember that this is the guy who traded for 4 pitchers who would become All-stars in the span of 6 years.

    • wsnydes - Aug 6, 2012 at 8:49 AM

      How do you expect to acquire a big league ready player for a guy that can’t get into the big leagues himself?

  2. mikeincmn - Aug 5, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    Did you really expect to get anything for Valencia?

    I get that Twins fan, myself included are frustrated, but Valencia was useless, he didnt hit well and he got progressively worse on defense. If he has a place on a club it would be as a platoon player against lefties and thats about it.

    No team is gonna give up a pitcher who might become useful for Danny Valencia. The Liriano thing is more frustrating due to the fact that Don Cooper is showing Twins fans just how awful Rick Anderson is as pitching coach.

  3. latchbeam - Aug 5, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    Why even have a trade deadline?? How are teams still trading??

    • bigleagues - Aug 5, 2012 at 3:50 PM

      Memo

      TO: Latchbeam
      FR: MLB Fans Everywhere
      RE: Trade Deadlines

      While we appreciate and encourage all levels of MLB fandom, it is hardly a secret that July 31st is the NON-waiver Trade Deadline and August 31st in the WAIVER Trade Deadline.

      For players to be traded after July 31st through August 31st, teams must expose players on their 40-man roster to the Waiver process. Doing so is optional. But even if a player does get claimed, he can be pulled back by the team who owns him.

      If a player goes unclaimed he is free to be traded to any other team, granted the player(s) he’s traded for have also cleared Waivers.

      If a waived player is claimed by another team, the waiving team can simply release that player to the team making the claim, work out a trade with the claiming team or pull the player back.

      There are more factors involved, but we hope this helps.

      BTW there is even a mechanism by which players may be traded in September. Oh yeah. It’s true!

      • pisano - Aug 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM

        With that in mind, why doesn’t Boston put that whole team on waivers?

      • scottp9 - Aug 5, 2012 at 9:01 PM

        There is no waiver trade deadline – the procedure is the same in September/October as in August. August 31 is the date by which a player must be on a club’s roster to be eligible to play in the post-season for that club.

      • bigleagues - Aug 5, 2012 at 9:38 PM

        scottp9 . . .

        Yes you are indeed correct.

        I just didn’t want to complicate things further.

      • rooney24 - Aug 6, 2012 at 9:14 AM

        In reply to Pisano, most teams put most of their guys on waivers, just in case something will work out and/or if someone is foolish enough to claim a high salary player. You hear about guys passing through waivers every season that really have next to zero chance of being moved.

  4. randygnyc - Aug 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM

    Too bad. I like Valencia. He went out of his way to sign a ball for my 11 year old daughter last year. Now we’ll have to white it out and get another autograph.

    • Tim OShenko - Aug 5, 2012 at 6:17 PM

      Really? Is it just because he’ll be spending part of his career in Boston? If that’s the case I hope no Babe Ruth baseballs come into your posession.

      • bozosforall - Aug 5, 2012 at 10:19 PM

        Sounds more like something that would motivate a crybaby Boston fan.

  5. dremmel69 - Aug 5, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    No GM could trade Danny Valencia for a player that is ready to contribute to a major league roster any time soon. What Terry Ryan got was a young (21) talent to add to a talent-poor farm system. Since he will be starting out in the Gulf Coast League, it doesn’t matter whether he plays a position that the Twins need this year, or 2013, or 2014……….

    This move was simply facing facts and cutting loose a 27-year-old (28 next month) player who had little hope of EVER contributing to the major league club.

    • bigleagues - Aug 6, 2012 at 9:34 AM

      Perhaps a little overstated (as Valencia did prove he could play at the ML level, but obviously something went wrong between the end of last season and the start of this season) – but your overall point is dead on.

      The Sox traded from a position of strength in their minor league system as they have decent prospect depth in the OF at higher levels . . . to address an area of weakness – the lack of depth at 3B in the upper levels.

  6. proudlycanadian - Aug 5, 2012 at 4:08 PM

    How the Red Sox benefit from this trade?

    • theskinsman - Aug 5, 2012 at 4:13 PM

      Because no one named Julio Lugo is involved?

      • proudlycanadian - Aug 5, 2012 at 5:05 PM

        I understand your past pain.

    • brewdogg - Aug 6, 2012 at 1:36 AM

      Well, I seem to remember another guy the Twins gave up on who did some good things for Boston……..

      • rooney24 - Aug 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM

        Nick Punto?

      • bigleagues - Aug 6, 2012 at 10:00 AM

        Tom Brunansky?

        Frank Viola?

        Rick Aguilera?

      • brewdogg - Aug 6, 2012 at 11:10 AM

        Umm…. Yeah I guess that would work. I was thinking Ortiz as a similar situation, but you make a good point.

      • 18thstreet - Aug 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

        Doug Mientkiewicz.

    • bigleagues - Aug 6, 2012 at 9:47 AM

      C’mon proudly, I know you are smarter than that.

      The Sox have virtually no depth at 3B in the upper levels. In Valencia they get a guy who apparently lost his mojo (whether its his head or its physical) but who has been a little below average defensively and creates a little competition scenario with Andy LaRoche at Pawtucket.

      Also, perhaps Red Sox player development people have seen something they feel they can fix in Valencia’s approach.

  7. mikeincmn - Aug 5, 2012 at 5:10 PM

    The Red Sox benefit in the sense this means if Middlebrooks goesin down they dont have to face the reality of Nick Punto playing everyday. Considering just how awful Nick Punto is with anything that doesnt involve his glove thats probably why they did it.

  8. willclarkgameface - Aug 5, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    Why do the Red Sox keep trying. The season has been over since they broke camp in April.

    • bozosforall - Aug 5, 2012 at 10:20 PM

      So true.

    • rooney24 - Aug 6, 2012 at 9:17 AM

      Because they are professionals, and you need to keep trying whether you are in or out of it. Aren’t they around .500? If so, one 8-10 game win streak would have them in the wild card hunt.

  9. 1twinsfan - Aug 5, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    Hopefully, Valencia can get his mojo back. And I’m sure Adrian Gonzalez will be a great team addition. No? Not Gonzo? Pedroia? Beckett? Pfft. Maybe this new guy will turn out to have trade potential later for a decent starting pitcher. All I know is if the starter is Diamond, De Vries or Deduno, we have a good chance of winning. Blackburn has now taken the guaranteed to lose spot that Liriano held.

  10. tfbuckfutter - Aug 5, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    I don’t get why the Sox keep trading for awful players like this guy, Lillibridge, Byrd….

    My theory is they just like doing paperwork.

  11. fmlizard - Aug 5, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    Doug Mientkievicz, Delmon Young, now Danny Valencia…all traded while visiting the other team.

    Either the Twins get really eager to trade guys they don’t like NOW, or they are just too cheap to pay for a plane ticket.

  12. azpackerbacker - Aug 6, 2012 at 12:41 AM

    “Either the Twins get really eager to trade guys they don’t like NOW, or they are just too cheap to pay for a plane ticket.”

    -Don’t forget Liriano got dealt to the White Sox last week one day before they came to town too. You may be onto something, or on something.

  13. rooney24 - Aug 6, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Since I’ve never heard of the guy, does anyone know how much of a prospect Pineda is? What are the odds that he ever makes the majors? 5%, 10%, 25%? And, no I am not asking in a smart ass, sarcastic way. I am really curious about what kind of prospect this guy is.

    • bigleagues - Aug 6, 2012 at 10:11 AM

      He was signed as an international free agent last year. I couldn’t find a decent scouting report on him, but he was leading the GCL in hitting . . . albeit as a 21 year old. Once the Sox signed him last year he played in the DSL, then at Sox Rookie level, where he has remained this year.

      The one thumbnail on him basically compares him to Ben Revere.

  14. twonis - Aug 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    Twins fan and Minneapolis resident here. My Dad is actually old friends with one of the members of the Twins coaching staff (I’ll leave that anonymous but it doesn’t rhyme with Barbenbire) and the word on Valencia is that he is a totally uncoachable and a total @ss. I’ve had the second part of that confirmed by other people I know around town who had their interactions with him. With Trevor Plouffe we have no need for him. He was a solid contributor once upon a time by doesn’t appear to have the chops to be a long-term, every day player and by trading him, even if it appeared to be a pretty rotten trade, he still comes off the payroll opening up more room to land a solid starting pitcher in free agency.
    If Scott Baker comes back healthy and the Triple D’s (Diamond, Deduno and DeVries) continue to play the way they are all they need is one solid ace to make up a very respectable starting rotation.

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