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Indians CEO Paul Dolan was really, really bummed by the Indians 11-game losing streak

Aug 9, 2012, 5:31 PM EDT

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Indians CEO Paul Dolan sat down with Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain Dealer and talked about how the season just went off the rails. And he didn’t mince words:

“That was probably the most disappointing stretch of baseball in our tenure [as owners],” Dolan said. “It was so dismal. It changed the entire season. We had an opportunity to make up some ground in attendance. We were set up for a drive for the playoffs … I have never seen a season unravel like that in such a short stretch,” Dolan added. “Our pitching just collapsed. It was so painful.”

He went on to give votes of confidence to Manny Acta and GM Chris Antonetti. But he also noted that the financial state of the team is “not particularly good,” and saying “[w]e had budgeted a substantial loss for this year. It is likely to be greater than we expected.”  But noted that payroll for next year will be about the same and that “we can handle it.”

Just a dreary time to be an Indians fan.

  1. latchbeam - Aug 9, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Fire Acta

  2. kkolchak - Aug 9, 2012 at 5:54 PM

    Actaball.

  3. mykolm - Aug 9, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    Fire Selig.

  4. coldyron - Aug 9, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    You can’t really blame the owners, they’re trying to run a business and the ultimate goal of a business is to make money.

    You can blame the front office who has failed to get any substantial returns from trading away Cy Young winners two years in a row and has failed in the draft every single year.

    • kkolchak - Aug 9, 2012 at 9:00 PM

      So who hired the front office?

      • tashkalucy - Aug 9, 2012 at 11:10 PM

        “You can’t really blame the owners, they’re trying to run a business and the ultimate goal of a business is to make money.”

        Not so easy to make money when the people running the operation for you have had 2 winning seasons in 11.

      • tashkalucy - Aug 9, 2012 at 11:11 PM

        “So who hired the front office?”

        And who is keeping them in their positions….rebuild after rebuild, year after year?

  5. Lukehart80 - Aug 9, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    “Just a dreary time to be an Indians fan.”

    Craig, hold onto that line. I expect you’ll be able to get a lot of use out of it over the next 5 or 10 or 100 years.

  6. chill1184 - Aug 9, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    At least he’s showing that he wants to build a winning club instead of just treating it like a toy.

    • tashkalucy - Aug 9, 2012 at 11:43 PM

      I don’t think he’s doing either.

  7. blantoncollier - Aug 9, 2012 at 9:06 PM

    Maybe if Paul and his father (Larry) invested in big league talent the fans would come and he could make some more money to invest in the club. These guys are minor league owners. They make prior owners Vernon Stouffer, Gabe Paul, Nick Mileti and Steve O’Neil look big time.

    The Dolan’s so wanted to own a sporting team, they lost out on the Browns and Cincinnati Reds, they over paid by $100M. They promised to field competitivie teams, but they field teams that compete for a month or two. They started a cable network and promised to plow the profits back into the team. Trouble is the cable network doesnt make money since they field bad teams and no one watches the games.

    Paul–your ownership is as disappointing as the teams you field.

    Paul and Larry PLEASE SELL THE TEAM. PLEASE SELL THE TEAM.

  8. brianbosworthisstonecold - Aug 9, 2012 at 9:06 PM

    Get rid of the racist caricature and maybe some good karma will happen.

    • tashkalucy - Aug 9, 2012 at 11:12 PM

      The “racist caricature” was done out of respect for an American Indian that played for the team.

      • yahmule - Aug 9, 2012 at 11:36 PM

        What a load of bullshit that is.

        http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/the-curse-of-chief-wahoo/Content?oid=2954423

      • tashkalucy - Aug 9, 2012 at 11:53 PM

        lol yahmule,

        I know Peter. He is a failed lawyer that writes a failed blog for his old high school buddies that left the area.

        He exaggerates and misrepresents almost everything he writes. He made his name by backing Eric Mangini as a football coach and still thinks the guy is one of the great coaches of all time.

        The “Scene” newspaper is a free newspaper that has been going in Cleveland for over 30 years, and 90% of the items it’s published – mostly by writers that are not paid – do not stand the test of time.

        My late father understood the naming of the team (actually playing off the popularity of the 1914 Boston Braves).

        To say that the caracture is “racist” is to say that “sex is dirty”. And I uwed to read the same sort of misrepresentation of sex by screwballs trying to make a name for themselves as I did when I scanned the article you put up.

        Trust me, racist Clevelanders were not not going to League park in glee 90 years ago thinking about how they had demeaned the Indian nation.

        Why don’t you do something constructive and go after that Celtic thing in Boston. Gosh, are all Irishmen cops also?

      • yahmule - Aug 10, 2012 at 12:08 AM

        Yeah, the experiences of Irish Americans is really comparable to the treatment of Native Americans, isn’t it?

  9. bigtrav425 - Aug 9, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    These guys HAVE to go! For the love of god…they hired/have kept the same front office so it’s all on them!

    • tashkalucy - Aug 9, 2012 at 11:18 PM

      Suggest people read the entire interview in the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

      If this kid wasn’t a rich mans son, he would have trouble getting a job as a busboy. No kidding. I have never read an interview that bad from a part-owner of a professional franchise in over 55 years of following professional sports.

      I now understand why he thinks that Mark Shapiro is a genius and Chris Antonetti is a savvy GM. I doubt he knows anything at all about the business he’s supposed to be in charge of other then what Shapiro tells him. It is both pathetic and scary. And very sad for Indian fans around the world. This will be a bottom-feeder franchise until Mark Shapiro sucks every cent out of it that he wants, and elects to move on.

  10. vincentbojackson - Aug 9, 2012 at 11:27 PM

    Keep your head up Cleveland fan. Remember that as bad as things seem today, tomorrow will be much worse.

  11. comatrip1 - Aug 9, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    Typical Dolan…. attendance first on his mind, playoffs secondary.

  12. brianbosworthisstonecold - Aug 10, 2012 at 1:37 AM

    Shaggylocks wrote:

    Noam Chomsky has an apt metaphor that puts Native American mascots into grim perspective:

    Suppose the Nazis had won the Second World War. Sixty years later, a prestigious German state university has a mascot for all of its sports teams and sports fans by the name of “The Rabbi.” Basically what happens is that a student from the Hitler Youth League dresses up in an authentic costume for an Hasidic Rabbi, complete with the curl-locks and beard. The University itself collectively call themselves “The Fighting Jews”, and the school’s band is called “The Marching Jews.” The student newspaper is called “The Daily Jew.” All the sports fans in town wear jackets and t-shirts with pictures of The Rabbi prominently displayed on them. And most cars have Rabbi stickers planted all over them. Three years ago, the University’s Board of Trustees ran out of town on a rail a courageous and principled Chancellor who had the temerity to publicly suggest that the time had now come to “retire” the Rabbi. So of course there was a heated campaign on among the students and alumni to “Save the Rabbi!”

    This German state university plays its soccer matches over at the Nuremberg Stadium in front of an audience of about 75,000 White Aryans, almost all of whom are wearing pro-Rabbi images and clothes. At half-time, the Marching Jews take to the stadium floor and begin playing what they purport to be Jewish sounding music along the lines of Fiddler-on-the-Roof. Then all 75,000 White Aryans rise as one and shout in unison: “Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi, Rabbi” gesticulating wildly and working themselves up into a feeding frenzy. One lone faculty member sits there in protest shouting “Racist Rabbi!” and everyone in the vicinity proceeds to throw garbage at him.

    It goes on in this vein, but I think this snippet is enough to illuminate the absurdity of Native America mascots in American sports.”

    Again, well said.

  13. brianbosworthisstonecold - Aug 10, 2012 at 2:06 AM

    kmgannon wrote:

    I’ve been a Tribe fan for 30+ years (and I’m not even from Cleveland!). I’m also a History professor, and I can tell you that, no matter how it’s spun, the Chief Wahoo logo is a racist caricature. Now, I’m not saying the original designer said “hey, I hate Indians, so let’s make an exaggerated racist caricature of one for our logo!.” Rather, it reflects the pervasive, casual racism towards Native Americans that still exists even today. It was part of the climate–and for the real impact, google the *original* logo, complete with yellow skin and crooked nose. Put a yarmulke on it, and it looks like the worst anti-Semitic product of 1930s German propaganda.

    It’s not for the dominant culture to judge what is racist, so much as it is the group that’s being depicted. One can say “I don’t see how it’s racist,” but be ignorant of the larger racism faced by Native peoples. But to press the argument is like saying “some of my best friends are _____; I don’t see them discriminated against.” That may be anecdotally true in your immediate case, but it does not mean that racism has been magically erased.

    The “Sambo” archetype has a much deeper history than the story referenced above–it was a product of slavery, and the cheerful, compliant (on the surface) slave was referred to as “Sambo” by approving whites. And a label such as “Yankee” is a different deal. It’s a nickname, not an epithet. Chief Wahoo is different than me calling my buddy “shorty.” It carries a ton of historical baggage with it, and no matter how we try and say it’s just a harmless cartoon dude, it’ll never put that luggage down. That’s the key point here. As Abe Lincoln said, “We cannot escape history.”

    Of course, he also said something about quotes on the internet or something like that, from what I hear.

    ———–

    As a full blooded Indigenous Tribal Member, its great to see dialogue about his issue since it basically has been an ongoing conversation piece way before the birth of the Internet.

  14. brianbosworthisstonecold - Aug 10, 2012 at 2:30 AM

    Correction: its great to see dialogue about ‘This’ issue since it basically has been an ongoing conversation piece way before the birth of the Internet.

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